Well, it's official. I've changed parties.

[manowar821]

Partisan BS.

You do realize that the two party system will be the downfall of the USA, right?

BTW, I always thought you were a republican. This isn't shocking. Are you sure you weren't already fully aware of your loyalties, and that this isn't just a troll post?

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: BoberFett
I can see why someone would leave the Democrats, but why join the Republicans? That's jumping from the frying pan into the fire.

Maybe if fewer people thought like you about third parties, they may actually get somewhere. Instead people don't vote for them because "they can't win" and we end up with the same two bunch of losers every time. Dumbasses.

:thumbsup:

Heh, yeah. I fail to see any logic displayed by the OP. AT ALL.

Dems = corrupt
Reps = corrupt

So, abandon one group of parasite cretins for another group. Yay.

And about Congress approval ratings, they ALWAYS suck.

Btw, from pretty much off of BlackAngst's previous posts, it was patently obvious that he is an authoritarian hard-right bootlicker to the core, so this is hardly surprising.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Everybody is always disenchanted with the other guys Representitive no matter what party affiliation.
</end quote></div>

seems like these are historic lows for approval ratings, so unless there are way more republicans out there than people think, seems lots of dems and undecideds are disappointed

Well the current crop was elected to reign in the Dub and so far they've been ineffective so I do believe that the American public has a right to be disenchanted. Of course if the American Public really has themselves to blame, the majority voted for that dipshit in 2004 and almost the majority voted for him in 2000

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Dari
From what you said, why don't you just become an Independent. It seems odd (to me) that you'd leave one corrupt organization for another. It seems odd unless you have a need to belong to some group. I can't imagine being a part of any of these groups. For me, speaking my own mind and voting my own way is better than waving some flag just for the sake of belonging. Congratulations, you got your 15 seconds of fame, now go join the sea of lemmings before somebody mistake you for a thinker.

I really dont want to join a party that DC doesnt take seriously. In thoery it's warm and fuzzy, but in reality they cant really get anything done. Nothing against Indies (if I thought it was a viable choice I would join the Libertairians) but the reality is, the Indies have no teeth.

unless you work as a lobbiest, what does it matter? how does your registered political party actually impact your personal ability to get anything done?

when I switched from R -> D, I didn't notice any changes... same when I switched from D -> I (except I can't vote in the R or D primaries, but who cares about that?)

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: BoberFett
I can see why someone would leave the Democrats, but why join the Republicans? That's jumping from the frying pan into the fire.

Maybe if fewer people thought like you about third parties, they may actually get somewhere. Instead people don't vote for them because "they can't win" and we end up with the same two bunch of losers every time. Dumbasses.

Well I base my opinion of 3rd parties on where the particular person stands on issues that are important to me, and on voting record. Frankly, the majority of indies are just plain wacko.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: loki8481
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: blackangst1
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Dari
From what you said, why don't you just become an Independent. It seems odd (to me) that you'd leave one corrupt organization for another. It seems odd unless you have a need to belong to some group. I can't imagine being a part of any of these groups. For me, speaking my own mind and voting my own way is better than waving some flag just for the sake of belonging. Congratulations, you got your 15 seconds of fame, now go join the sea of lemmings before somebody mistake you for a thinker.</end quote></div>

I really dont want to join a party that DC doesnt take seriously. In thoery it's warm and fuzzy, but in reality they cant really get anything done. Nothing against Indies (if I thought it was a viable choice I would join the Libertairians) but the reality is, the Indies have no teeth.</end quote></div>

unless you work as a lobbiest, what does it matter? how does your registered political party actually impact your personal ability to get anything done?

when I switched from R -> D, I didn't notice any changes... same when I switched from D -> I (except I can't vote in the R or D primaries, but who cares about that?)

I, for one, do. *shrug*

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: Arkaign
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: BoberFett
I can see why someone would leave the Democrats, but why join the Republicans? That's jumping from the frying pan into the fire.

Maybe if fewer people thought like you about third parties, they may actually get somewhere. Instead people don't vote for them because "they can't win" and we end up with the same two bunch of losers every time. Dumbasses.</end quote></div>

:thumbsup:

Heh, yeah. I fail to see any logic displayed by the OP. AT ALL.

Dems = corrupt
Reps = corrupt

So, abandon one group of parasite cretins for another group. Yay.

And about Congress approval ratings, they ALWAYS suck.

Btw, from pretty much off of BlackAngst's previous posts, it was patently obvious that he is an authoritarian hard-right bootlicker to the core, so this is hardly surprising.

Well thats some fancy rhetoric. Im suprised it took this long for the name calling to begin. And for the record, Im not sure what posts you are talking about. I'm not authoritarian about anything. I'd be curious to see what posts youre referring to.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Now that the Dems have control of the Legislative branch, why aren't they fixing the Bush's pharmacy benefit program or revoking the tax break for the top 1%? They've b*tched and moaned so loudly that...for a second there...I thought they were sincere and would actually do something constructive. Instead all we get is incessant political posturing. No wonder their approval rating is at an all-time historical low! What a bunch of losers.

What's really interesting is that you don't see many pissed off Dems...what gives?

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Now that the Dems have control of the Legislative branch, why aren't they fixing the Bush's pharmacy benefit program or revoking the tax break for the top 1%? They've b*tched and moaned so loudly that...for a second there...I thought they were sincere and would actually do something constructive. Instead all we get is incessant political posturing. No wonder their approval rating is at an all-time historical low! What a bunch of losers.

What's really interesting is that you don't see many pissed off Dems...what gives?

That should be obvious. The Democratic party is the party of corporate America lite, the party that takes the second most bribes from them, the party that is paid off just for the sake of insurance. But it is the Republican party that is in corporate America's party, the party of primary corruption and special interest. America has cancer with heart trouble waiting down the road. You need to first cut out the cancer before you start to worry overly much about the heart.

 

[StageLeft]

Anyway, I'm done. So now you can call me a shill or whatever you want. All I know is the Republican Party, in general,

They represent mine more in general, too. It's just that Republicans themselves do not (most in the republican party are idiots, just as most democraps are). I have an inner peace I hope some others here can have that goes as such: Come next presidential election, don't worry if "your team" loses, because really both teams are losers. There is no need to lament a particular party's loss, because it was just as bad as the other.

On the other hand, optimism is found in the fact that Bush's second term ensures he cannot come back again, so from that perspective, whoever wins makes it a win-win for us all.

So really it's good all around.

I do fear for this country's future because I think its political system is becoming quite buggered, and who I blame that on is mainly the people who are tolerating it, content in their own stupidity and ignorance and ready to embrace any demagogue that caters to their little brains and simple perspectives on the world. There is a great lack of critical thought among the voting masses and they are being easily manipulated by the political system, a vertiable puppet master.

When was the last time the people were passionate about a leader? They're not, they're merely passionate AGAINST a leader. The dems didn't like Kerry, they knew he was a joke, but they HATED Bush. Similarly, the Republicans knew Dumbya was an intellectual catastrophe with a cocaine-rotted brain in his skull, but they detested Kerry. Elections have turned into a sporting event, complete with arbitrary rooting for one's home team.

Pretty much all of the current contenders for president at crap. Ron Paul, who I am not even saying I agree with, at least has some kind of a loyal following. With everyone else, it's just picking who they think sucks the least and/or whomever can ensure that "their party" beats "the other party".

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Now that the Dems have control of the Legislative branch, why aren't they fixing the Bush's pharmacy benefit program or revoking the tax break for the top 1%? They've b*tched and moaned so loudly that...for a second there...I thought they were sincere and would actually do something constructive. Instead all we get is incessant political posturing. No wonder their approval rating is at an all-time historical low! What a bunch of losers.

What's really interesting is that you don't see many pissed off Dems...what gives?

We shall serve no wine before it's time.

 

[Lemon law]

I am not at all upset at the Blackagianst1 revelation because you have always tended to endorse GOP positions in past posts. Somehow, in the grand scheme of things, the democratic party will roll merrily along without you. And I am 100% sure the GOP and the Democrats will give you ample reason for future disappointments.

But the whole idea of having party affiliations is part of an election reform now about a century old. Before that reform, party candidates were chosen only by party bosses---your generic equivalent of Dean, Pelosi, and Reed. And after the reform, the primary process was born, which put the the power of the nomination back into the hands of the people. And to prevent cross party voting---a given voter can vote in either the Republican or democratic primary---but by in large not both. And sadly in the larger balance, its left little room for the independent voter or independent candidate that can be anywhere in the political spectrum. Which only partly explains why we have only two major parties.---and also explains why neither party can be successful running too far right or left---and hence must run to the center.

But come the general election---Blankagianst1 and anyone else is free to vote for the lesser of many evils regardless of party label.

 

[Moonbeam]

It is not uncommon for a person who thinks he's stepped in sh!t to jump into a big pile of it.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: manowar821
Partisan BS.

You do realize that the two party system will be the downfall of the USA, right?

BTW, I always thought you were a republican. This isn't shocking. Are you sure you weren't already fully aware of your loyalties, and that this isn't just a troll post?

Im positive. When I first registered, in 1984, the Dems *did* represent my views moreso than the GOP. It was about 15 years ago I started to doubt, this last fall I hopped on the fence, and this month I jumped. There IS such thing as a conservative Democrat, although harder and harder to find. Thus, my jumping. I wasnt trying to troll at all.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Now that the Dems have control of the Legislative branch, why aren't they fixing the Bush's pharmacy benefit program or revoking the tax break for the top 1%? They've b*tched and moaned so loudly that...for a second there...I thought they were sincere and would actually do something constructive. Instead all we get is incessant political posturing. No wonder their approval rating is at an all-time historical low! What a bunch of losers.

What's really interesting is that you don't see many pissed off Dems...what gives?</end quote></div>

That should be obvious. The Democratic party is the party of corporate America lite, the party that takes the second most bribes from them, the party that is paid off just for the sake of insurance. But it is the Republican party that is in corporate America's party, the party of primary corruption and special interest. America has cancer with heart trouble waiting down the road. You need to first cut out the cancer before you start to worry overly much about the heart.

I fear that our cancer is inoperable.

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: sandorski
I heard that the Republican Membership Kit was pretty sweet. Includes a bucket and instructions on efficient bailing procedure!

It also comes with our own private clean water and air supply, and several recipes like southern fried baby.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: blackangst1
Frankly, the majority of indies are just plain wacko.

Yeah, the independents and third party candidates are wacko. Not the Ann Coulter party. They're perfectly sane. :roll:

 

[jonks]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: blackangst1
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: manowar821
Partisan BS.

You do realize that the two party system will be the downfall of the USA, right?

BTW, I always thought you were a republican. This isn't shocking. Are you sure you weren't already fully aware of your loyalties, and that this isn't just a troll post?</end quote></div>

Im positive. When I first registered, in 1984, the Dems *did* represent my views moreso than the GOP. It was about 15 years ago I started to doubt, this last fall I hopped on the fence, and this month I jumped. There IS such thing as a conservative Democrat, although harder and harder to find. Thus, my jumping. I wasnt trying to troll at all.</end quote></div>

Assuming as true your non-trolling intentions, can you articulate for us what positions exactly have changed in the past 15 years between dems and reps that you now find yourself agreeing with the reps moreso on? Abortion? Tax cuts? Environmental issues? Gay marriage? What did you not know about the dem position 15 years ago that you just learned?

Oh, and since the president (Rep) was in favor of the immigration bill, but the majority of reps in the senate were against it...which rep are you annoyed with?

 

[jman19]

Your wasting your time if you think you're going to get something out of going from one party to the other. Except for a few issues (and I don't know why you would ever have been a dem if your views fall in line with repub viewpoints more...), it's the same crap. You'll be disenchanted again in no time.

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: blackangst1
I've been teetering on this edge for about a decade now, and with the latest immigration bill (specifically the voting record) I am finally bailing on the Democratic party. I've had it.

Let me put a few things in perspective. First, both parties are corrupt to some extent. Both parties mislead the public to some extent. Both parties listen to lobbyists to some extent. Both parties fail to actually DO what they say theyre going to do to some extent. But...

The Democrats are doing it better than the GOP. I am so disgusted with the current Democratic leadership (Steny Hoyer, Nancy Pelosi, Howard Dean) it's hard for me to think how far over the American people's eyes they have pulled the wool. I dont base my opinion of leadership on 5 minute sound bites, or on lengthy speeches, but rather on voting records. I can honestly say the Democratic party, in general, lies far more than the GOP does. Far more. Now, dont go listing specific examples of GOP doing this, because as I've said, both parties do it. The Democrats just are better at it and do it far more often. My main gripe this session of Congress is Nancy Pelosi. By looking at her voting record she is on the opposite side of the fence of every issue that is important to me. In her bid for leadership EVERY one of her promises was the exact opposite of her prior votes. And she was sooo passionate with her lies!

Anyway, I'm done. So now you can call me a shill or whatever you want. All I know is the Republican Party, in general, represents my views far closer than the Dems do. Let the name calling begin!

How is this new? It was quite clear a while ago. If you can support republicans over democrats after the last 6 years you sure as HELL are a republican. What a cookie?

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Now that the Dems have control of the Legislative branch, why aren't they fixing the Bush's pharmacy benefit program or revoking the tax break for the top 1%? They've b*tched and moaned so loudly that...for a second there...I thought they were sincere and would actually do something constructive. Instead all we get is incessant political posturing. No wonder their approval rating is at an all-time historical low! What a bunch of losers.

What's really interesting is that you don't see many pissed off Dems...what gives?

they don't have a veto-proof majority.

 

[Darthvoy]

Originally posted by: blackangst1
I've been teetering on this edge for about a decade now, and with the latest immigration bill (specifically the voting record) I am finally bailing on the Democratic party. I've had it.

Let me put a few things in perspective. First, both parties are corrupt to some extent. Both parties mislead the public to some extent. Both parties listen to lobbyists to some extent. Both parties fail to actually DO what they say theyre going to do to some extent. But...

The Democrats are doing it better than the GOP. I am so disgusted with the current Democratic leadership (Steny Hoyer, Nancy Pelosi, Howard Dean) it's hard for me to think how far over the American people's eyes they have pulled the wool. I dont base my opinion of leadership on 5 minute sound bites, or on lengthy speeches, but rather on voting records. I can honestly say the Democratic party, in general, lies far more than the GOP does. Far more. Now, dont go listing specific examples of GOP doing this, because as I've said, both parties do it. The Democrats just are better at it and do it far more often. My main gripe this session of Congress is Nancy Pelosi. By looking at her voting record she is on the opposite side of the fence of every issue that is important to me. In her bid for leadership EVERY one of her promises was the exact opposite of her prior votes. And she was sooo passionate with her lies!

Anyway, I'm done. So now you can call me a shill or whatever you want. All I know is the Republican Party, in general, represents my views far closer than the Dems do. Let the name calling begin!

it is unfortunate that you are not smart enough, or should i say, too ignorant to realize you are not limited two only democrats and republicans. You are a prime example of what is wrong with the American political system. The "gees...I guess I am better off by aligning myself to the party which I think is the lesser of two evils" is complete BS. People like you have been brainwashed into accepting fvck ups to run the government. If the whole issue of immigration really bothers you, then ask yourself, why didn't the Republicans do anything about it when they had the chance? But, just be honest with yourself. You have always been a republican. There is no need to make a new thread in which you weakly attempt to take a jab at democrats.

As for me, I am neither a democrat nor republican. I refuse to have my choices of "political parties" limited to only two. I do tend to be liberal on social issues and conservative on fiscal policy.

 

[flyfish]

Congratulations!
Now you can vote for Ron Paul!

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Anyway, I'm done.

So now you can call me a shill or whatever you want.

All I know is the Republican Party, in general, represents my views far closer than the Dems do.

Let the name calling begin!

No name calling necessary.

Thanks for just finally honestly stating up front how much you despise and hate America.

Why you hate it and stay here is another story.

What exactly is yours and the Republican agenda for America???

 

[shadow9d9]

For your first day as a republican, you got your president pardoning his criminal friends who got convicted.. Hope you agree with his "values"!