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Well, I guess it's time to move up from a P200

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TrevorK

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Well, I guess it's time to slowly upgrade this system. Right now, I have a P200MMX system, and I think I better start with the CPU/MB like you guys suggested. I was just going to transfer over all the parts (My video cards, sound card, NIC, etc...). But, I also want to OC the CPU I get a bit (Or buy one that's OC'ed). So I was wondering if I would do any damage to the old components, like my video cards (I have a Original Voodoo 1 and a S3) or anything? From my understanding, the two ways of OC'ing are through a multiplier or FSB (Changing the Bus speed?). My question is, what kind of system would provide a much notible difference over my P200. I don't want to spend too much, so a T Bird and PIII are out of the question. But what about Duron's or Celerons? Would I notice a large difference with a 433 Celeron, or would I have to move up to a 600 mHZ Duron to notice a big difference (My typical use is surfing, coding, and a little gaming)? Also, I haven't stayed current, so could someone explain what this voltage thing is when you OC? Any FAQ's that would answer my newbie OC'ing questions would be appreciated. As well as anyone who has experience and could suggest a CPU that would give a noticeable difference, but is still cheap. (I'll be using Crucial pc133 ram, so I guess I can run the system at a FSB of 133 then??) Any sort of price ranges(used) would be appreciated too. In fact, anything about buying a low-end Celeron/Duron would be great =]

Thanks for putting up with me, much appreciated.

Trevor
 
I hear that the Durons outperform the celerons.. you'll have to unlock the L1 bridge to overclock it though... there are plenty of articles on doing that all over the web.. anandtech has one too.. can't find the link now though.. sorry.. I'm a newbie overclocker too though.. I haven't mustered up the balls (or the cash, whoever said it was a FREE upgrade?? damn.. those HSF's cost a billion dollars.. arctic silver... JEBUS!!!) yet to overclock my Tbird.. but yeah.. send me your old P200 so I can install linux on it and play.. 😉 I have drives and stuff for it... 🙂
 
If you're willing to overclock, I'd recommend buying something such as a Duron 750/800 and an ASUS A7V133.

Use the loctite method (car defogger repair kit at a local car store) to connect the L1 bridges located on the CPU to overclock it. The advantage of overclocking a Duron/Athlon (Thunderbird) processor this way is that you can overclock via the multiplier in your motherboard with a soft menu, or dip switches on the motherboard. The advantage of this (multiplier method) is that you can combine both the multiplier and front side bus to achieve a better overclock than just the front side bus (example: most of the newer Intel P3 chipsets work this way).

That's about as summed up as you can get. Go for an AMD rig 🙂
 
Now, would I notice a huge difference in going for a 750? What about a Duron 600? I see in people's signature's they get those things up to 900mHZ (With massive cooling?)? Anybody else care to share some thoughts/opinions?

Trevor
 
I've ran P200 machines (mainly at work) and there's a HUGE different, man - no comparison is necessary. I can't even explain to you the difference, but I can guarantee you that there'll be an immense increase in speed in general applications and OS use, and games will the biggest difference.

If you want to get the best deal for your money, buy the cheapest Duron you can find from a reseller that is very popular, such as Multiwave Direct. Most of the time this will insure that they have a newer batch of processors, which *usually* will overclock better, but not always - the quality of the chip is still the most important factor in a successful overclock. Chip markings are important as well, but I had a P3-450 that most people said wouldn't bust 558, but it did 621MHz easy, a nice overclock for most P3-450's.

For under $220 - $240 you could be blazing around in a 1GHz Duron rig with an Asus A7V133.

Oh yeah, and most of your peripherals will probably need a nice upgrade as well. Some might not need to be upgraded, such as the video card or hard drive, but your RAM, PSU, etc will need to be upgraded without a doubt.
 
I have some PC133 Crucial RAM, I assume that'll be good enough to run in a Duron? Also, what size of power supply would I need (Assuming I just have basic video cards)?

Trevor
 
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