Well color me shocked: USA Today Headline

[Wreckem]

This is a stupid headline. What exactly do we owe? Medicare? Social Security? OK, let's say we don't owe it anymore, are sick and poor seniors going to magically disappear? Maybe in a Republican dream, but in the real world, we are still going to have to take care of them, so you are simply going to transfer a liability from Social Security and Medicare to others.

Whats going to happen when debt payments, medicare, and social security make up 100% of the budget? Its going to happen, I believe the current estimate is sometime in 2030's if things don't change.

Medicare liabilities is the single largest problem the US has.

 

[theeedude]

Whats going to happen when debt payments, medicare, and social security make up 100% of the budget? Its going to happen, I believe the current estimate is sometime in 2030's if things don't change.

Medicare liabilities is the single largest problem the US has.

Things are going to change. Just not the way Republicans want them to change by leaving seniors with a voucher instead of health care.

 

[Wreckem]

Things are going to change. Just not the way Republicans want them to change by leaving seniors with a voucher instead of health care.

No Republican or Democrat has seriously attempted to get medicare under control. I don't see it happening anytime soon. At best they will kick the can, but eventually that can cannot be kicked anymore.

The problem with healthcare isn't insurance or medicare, its the actual cost of healthcare. Until there are serious efforts to get actual costs and not the cost of insurance down, nothing will fix healthcare or medicare.

 

[theeedude]

No Republican or Democrat has seriously attempted to get medicare under control. I don't see it happening anytime soon. At best they will kick the can, but eventually that can cannot be kicked anymore.

Yes, and when that happens, it will be taken under control. The amount that Medicare takes in is more than enough to take care of seniors in any other developed country except the US. US healthcare industry will just have to learn to live on less revenue per senior.

 

[Wreckem]

Yes, and when that happens, it will be taken under control. The amount that Medicare takes in is more than enough to take care of seniors in any other developed country except the US. US healthcare industry will just have to learn to live on less revenue per senior.

No what will happen is no one will accept medicare patients. Most Dr's and hospitals already make next to nothing on medicare patients, some actually lose money. Dr's in many states have already dropped medicare completely. Its already becoming epidemic in some areas.

 

[theeedude]

No what will happen is no one will accept medicare. Dr's in many states have already dropped medicare completely. Its already becoming epidemic in some areas.

Then we'll let the floodgates open to immigrant doctors. They will be happy to live in America and take Medicare.

 

[Wreckem]

Then we'll let the floodgates open to immigrant doctors. They will be happy to live in America and take Medicare.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

The sentiment is in everything they do and everything they say. Every bit of taxation, wealth redistribution, spending...everything.

Your pretending not to see it isn't fooling anyone.

To be fair, though, a lot of stupid people also believe it and are also partly to blame.

So the answer is: no, you have no quotes, you just pulled it out your a$$. Gotcha!

 

[Jhhnn]

No what will happen is no one will accept medicare patients. Most Dr's and hospitals already make next to nothing on medicare patients, some actually lose money. Dr's in many states have already dropped medicare completely. Its already becoming epidemic in some areas.

It's more of a political statement by rightie physicians than an economic matter.

Then we'll let the floodgates open to immigrant doctors. They will be happy to live in America and take Medicare.

Heh. the AMA has enjoyed limiting the supply & monopolist pricing for generations. They seem to be all in favor of lots of H1B visas for everybody other than themselves. Maybe they'll benefit from some of their own "austerity" & "competition" medicine...

 

[theeedude]

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Look at it this way, if what Medicare pays is not going to be enough to buy healthcare, paying it out with a voucher and having insurance companies take 20% overhead is going to buy even less. Point is the problem is not with Medicare, it's with the cost of health care. Medicare is very efficient from overhead point of view.

 

[Brigandier]

No what will happen is no one will accept medicare patients. Most Dr's and hospitals already make next to nothing on medicare patients, some actually lose money. Dr's in many states have already dropped medicare completely. Its already becoming epidemic in some areas.

Hospitals are out to make money?

That'll be good for everyone.

I think hospitals should be out to break even, and any "profit" they could realize should morally go into treating more people, not to line pockets. I think this, as a libtard, because doctors take oaths, oaths that say they aren't out for cash.

 

[piasabird]

We need a cap on what can be paid to a government employee at around $80,000 or less. Then get rid of all the Czars appointed to offices that are not authorized or approved by Congress, that O'Bammah invented so he can hire more overpaid liberal college professors.

 

[BladeVenom]

This just proves that everyone who said Obama couldn't be worse than Bush, were wrong.