Welcome to the new American ghetto

[shadow9d9]

So why do you spend so much time pushing the Democratic/Liberal/Progressive talking points? Can't think for yourself?

Name a single talking point I have made.

 

[Ausm]

LMAO!!!! Leftwing Nutjob Fapfest in progress.

Your the first person in the 15 years I have been here that has told me this thx for the enlightenment 🙄

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Not to worry, the Internets is making sure Americans know how to adapt to this Republican Utopia:

9-27-2011

http://news.yahoo.com/eat-7-less-da...BzdGNhdANob21lBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25zBHRlc3QD;_ylv=3

How to Eat for $7 or Less a Day


Here's how, along with more strategies anyone can use:

Buy in bulk. Stockpile supplies. Cans of beans and tomatoes are cheap, store easily, and make quick, filling meals.
Compare prices.

Cook big. Make lots of soup, chili, and other big dishes that can turn into leftovers or even go into the freezer for a future meal. To spruce up the dishes and make them even bigger, often adds pasta or rice.
Plan ahead. By loosely deciding in advance which meals to cook on which nights.
Shop discount. A survey from Washington Consumers' Checkbook shows that families that would spend $150 a week if they shopped at average-priced chains, such as Safeway, could save $1,326 by shopping at the discount store Bottom Dollar Food
Build your meals around rice, noodles, or other grains, advises the Agriculture Department's recipe book. A casserole, for example, should be heavy on rice and vegetables. The feds offer a beef-noodle casserole along with stir-fried pork and vegetables with rice that demonstrate this technique. The University of Wyoming's cookbook suggests heavy use of oatmeal, and includes an oatmeal cookie recipe that incorporates applesauce. Kansas State University describes "mom's breaded tomatoes," which mixes bread and flour into cooked tomatoes to make the vegetable dish more filling.

Lol thats a business model not a dietary plan. In summary: eat cheap processed garbage. Who gets rich off those diet recommendations?

 

[fleshconsumed]

It's not just offshoring, it's automation and changes to the tax structure that favor the wealthy. When all this started in earnest, back in the Reagan era, we should have raised top tier taxes, not lowered them, and become more socialistic, not less, so as to compensate the lower 99% of the population for job loss. We shouldn't have busted the balls off labor unions- we should have strengthened them, and we should have imposed capital controls on the flow of investment dollars out of this country.

Had we maintained the distribution of taxable income of 1980, or its equivalent, the median family would have 40% greater income, and if we'd maintained the tax structure, the federal debt wouldn't be anything to worry about.

Y'all been chumped, flimflammed, bamboozled by the rhetoric of the Right, the stuff that makes you feel good even as you're getting screwed.

I agree with most of what you have said, but I don't think automation is that much of an issue. Yes, as we automate more and more there is less and less demand for the non-skilled worker, however, had we kept all of the automation inside, the economic decline of the middle class we're seeing now would not have been nowhere near as steep (if there was one at all) because there would be increased demand for raw materials and for skilled workforce.

Had we not shipped all the assembly and automation jobs outside we would have been in a much better position that we're in right now. Installing assembly robot at Ford plant might displace 20 workers, however that robot means increased demand for mining ore, transporting that ore, increased demand for manufacturing steel, transporting that steel, building a factory to make the robot, it means increased electricity demands, increased shipping volume which means boom for logistics and shipping companies, higher demand for trucks/etcetera, that robot won't work on its own either, someone needs to manufacture control logic boards, somebody has to design and program those control logic boards, someone also needs to get that robot in place and keep it running, perform routine maintenance on it, troubleshoot it if anything goes wrong. All of this means gobs and gobs of well paying jobs, jobs that could actually sustain a family as opposed to McDonalds minimum wage type of jobs. Yes, the number of new jobs generated might not have been the same, but I think people are vastly underestimating the number of jobs that would have been created, and as I said those would have been good paying jobs.

Instead, all of those jobs that would have been created and would have been kept American economy going strong are now gone. Shipped. Outsourced. All of them, down to the janitor that needs to sweep that factory that makes the robot.

Had we kept all of this inside US we would have created tons of new jobs that displaced workers could retrain for, or possibly change jobs to a similar position in a new industry that would support those new jobs if they did not want to retrain. We would have given those workers a chance to succeed and prosper. What is happening now is mass shipping of those jobs out of the country. We're not even giving those workers a chance. Obama, and all his predecessors have pushed hard for college education, and I assume his successor will push for it too, but that is a fool's hope without steady demand for a skilled worker. What's the point of going to college to be an engineer if all the programming jobs have been shipped to India and all the actual manufacturing has been shipped to Mexico? There is simply no demand for a college graduate anymore. There is no point in going to college until the jobs start coming back to the United States.

If this isn't bad enough, keep in mind that once you ship manufacturing out of the country, you forget how to manufacture stuff. Engineer commented on this multiple times. If you want to design things, you need to know how existing things work and how they're made so that you can improve them, you need to know what are the common issues that might arise during manufacturing, why are things designed this way and not another, why is this way better? US gave up manufacturing TV's to Asia and now we can't make one even if we wanted to, all the know how is gone, completely. We can't make the LCD panels, we can't design or build them, we can't make electronics, at the most we could probably build TV hosing. We couldn't make TV even if we wanted to. It would take us decades and massive government support i.e. tax and spending to get that knowledge back and to actually become competitive at it again. It would take a monumental effort to make that happen, all the while the middle class would be suffering. We gave up TV manufacturing in the 50's and 70's, we gave up electronics manufacturing in the late 90's, we're giving up programming jobs now, what's next? I don't know precisely what's next, but all I know is that soon there will be nothing more to ship and at that point world no longer needs us and we are all f-ed having lost all of our manufacturing ability and having nothing to offer to the world except for raw materials and cheap unskilled labor...

 

[Howard]

It was clearly better back then.

Question,

were black people allowed to use the same creek water?

wtf

 

[piasabird]

No such thing as free trade. Free trade is giving up your rights.