Welcome the Walrus . . .

biostud

Lifer
Feb 27, 2003
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would be nice to see civilian versions as well. Personally I think it's pretty kewl to take up a technology abandoned nearly 100 years ago.
 

yllus

Elite Member & Lifer
Aug 20, 2000
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Additionally, the need has been amplified by a key change in US military doctrine referred to as the "10-30-30" objective: to be able to deploy to a distant theater in 10 days, defeat an enemy within 30 days, and be ready for an additional fight within another 30 days.
Haha, the conspiracy theorists/anti-Bush nuts are going to be all over that one.

That is, in fact, one butt-ugly airplane. :D But one that seems to have been entirely needed for forever plus a day. Congrats to you guys for getting it off the ground (pardon the pun).
 

Forsythe

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Air Vehicle

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6,000 miles in 4 days, tremendous payload, but very vulnerable.

Hi Boys & Girls, I'm your freindly neighborhood Walrus

Which war are you gonna use it in? Who are you gonna attack?

Anyone we want, any time any where.

What is this ? Your day to be 'Thread-Crap Man' ?

I just always hear things from the american army about better ways to maim and kill people. Just wondering.
 

CaptnKirk

Lifer
Jul 25, 2002
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Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Air Vehicle

More . . .

6,000 miles in 4 days, tremendous payload, but very vulnerable.

Hi Boys & Girls, I'm your freindly neighborhood Walrus

Which war are you gonna use it in? Who are you gonna attack?

Anyone we want, any time any where.

What is this ? Your day to be 'Thread-Crap Man' ?

I just always hear things from the american army about better ways to maim and kill people. Just wondering.

Got to be able to move many big weapons & the troops to be able to maim & kill on a grand scale.

The future of 'Big-Time' air cargo could really expand the envelope with this, especially for outsized cargo like Oil Rig Equipment,
Construction Equipment, & the like. Don't have to land, just hover in place to load or unload.
Biggest drawback would be vulnerability to surface winds, they would respond like a pig on a whitewater rafting adventure in inclement conditions.
 

B00ne

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May 21, 2001
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Been there, done that and failed - Company went bancrupt due to lack of serious interest.
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Moonbeam

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Nov 24, 1999
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Originally posted by: B00ne
Been there, done that and failed - Company went bancrupt due to lack of serious interest.
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Yeah but who needs to lift 160 metric tons of farfinugen.
 

imported_Condor

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Sep 22, 2004
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Unlike earlier generation airships it will generate lift through a combination of aerodynamics, thrust vectoring and gas buoyancy generation and management and for much of the time, it will fly heavier than air.

See, they are watching P&N and learning! I could fly like that.
 

imported_Condor

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Sep 22, 2004
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Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Air Vehicle

More . . .

6,000 miles in 4 days, tremendous payload, but very vulnerable.

Hi Boys & Girls, I'm your freindly neighborhood Walrus

Which war are you gonna use it in? Who are you gonna attack?

Cargo, think cargo. It would be very handy for the Gulf Coast right now. Besides that, it may be capable of performing above 10,000 feet. Choppers can, but the payload is very small. This: Walrus will be capable of performing theater lift, support of Sea Basing and persistence missions makes ti sort of sound like vertical takeoff and landing may be part of the package.

 

CaptnKirk

Lifer
Jul 25, 2002
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Originally posted by: Condor
Unlike earlier generation airships it will generate lift through a combination of aerodynamics, thrust vectoring and gas buoyancy generation and management and for much of the time, it will fly heavier than air.

See, they are watching P&N and learning! I could fly like that.

Double order of Beans, Hardboiled Egg, & 2 Beers coming up !
:beer: :beer:

 

imported_Condor

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Sep 22, 2004
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Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Air Vehicle

More . . .

6,000 miles in 4 days, tremendous payload, but very vulnerable.

Hi Boys & Girls, I'm your freindly neighborhood Walrus

Which war are you gonna use it in? Who are you gonna attack?

Anyone we want, any time any where.

What is this ? Your day to be 'Thread-Crap Man' ?

I just always hear things from the american army about better ways to maim and kill people. Just wondering.

You do realize that is their business, don't you?

 

makken

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Aug 28, 2004
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Originally posted by: biostud
would be nice to see civilian versions as well. Personally I think it's pretty kewl to take up a technology abandoned nearly 100 years ago.

word. We have luxury cruisers, I would LOVE to ride in a luxury airliner :D
 

CaptnKirk

Lifer
Jul 25, 2002
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Back then the technology took the path of 'speed' rather than volume.

This would take the better part of 2 days to move anything from coast to coast, and a whole day from the North to the South.
But each could carry so much, and properly orchestrated be better than trainloads of
containers and trailers.
Distribution hubs (ala Wal-Mart/Sam's) to rotate freight through to segmented destinations.
 

Martin

Lifer
Jan 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: yllus
Additionally, the need has been amplified by a key change in US military doctrine referred to as the "10-30-30" objective: to be able to deploy to a distant theater in 10 days, defeat an enemy within 30 days, and be ready for an additional fight within another 30 days.
Haha, the conspiracy theorists/anti-Bush nuts are going to be all over that one.

That is, in fact, one butt-ugly airplane. :D But one that seems to have been entirely needed for forever plus a day. Congrats to you guys for getting it off the ground (pardon the pun).

Yeah, we know how well their last "defeat in 30 days" panned out...
 

1EZduzit

Lifer
Feb 4, 2002
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I wonder how they figured the speed? 6000 miles in 4 days (96 hours) is 62.5 mph. Winds aloft can be that fast. I wouldn't want to be waiting for it halfway around the world.

Still, it might be way cheaper to "float" heavy things around the world/country??
 

CaptnKirk

Lifer
Jul 25, 2002
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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
I wonder how they figured the speed? 6000 miles in 4 days (96 hours) is 62.5 mph. Winds aloft can be that fast. I wouldn't want to be waiting for it halfway around the world.

Still, it might be way cheaper to "float" heavy things around the world/country??

There would be some advantage, changing daily or hourly, to flying at altitudes that can take advantage of prevailing winds,
as airlines presently do - but at much lower altitudes.
If one of these were to get trapped in an updraft & be forced to above 35,000 ft. it may be quite dangerous, even sucked into the upwell
that is associated with Thunderheads - and shoved to those 70,000+ altitudes.

 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Air Vehicle

More . . .

6,000 miles in 4 days, tremendous payload, but very vulnerable.

Hi Boys & Girls, I'm your freindly neighborhood Walrus

Which war are you gonna use it in? Who are you gonna attack?

Anyone we want, any time any where.

What is this ? Your day to be 'Thread-Crap Man' ?

I just always hear things from the american army about better ways to maim and kill people. Just wondering.

Couple this with our FCS and in 2030 we will be landing robots anywhere we want and in large scales.



 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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Nothing but artists' conceptions .... Vaporware.



















If you didn't get that joke, you're beyond redemption.
 

Czar

Lifer
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people in germany and in england are making their own zeppelins, has been on the news for years

theirs are privately funded research and development, the german one for heavy cargo lifting the english one for cargo and civiliant transport
 

EatSpam

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May 1, 2005
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Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Air Vehicle

More . . .

6,000 miles in 4 days, tremendous payload, but very vulnerable.

Hi Boys & Girls, I'm your freindly neighborhood Walrus

Which war are you gonna use it in? Who are you gonna attack?

Anyone we want, any time any where.

What is this ? Your day to be 'Thread-Crap Man' ?

I just always hear things from the american army about better ways to maim and kill people. Just wondering.

Just helping you thread crap...

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