Weirdness...P4P800 and "Windows Protection Errors"

Revolutionary

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Please help!

Setup:
P4P800
2.4C
Geil PC3500
VisionTek Radeon 9500 Pro
Herolchi 350W PSU (the one from Tom's HWG PSU round-up, supposed to be a good unit)


So, this is a new one for me. I've been having a ah heck of a time with my new P4P800. I suspected that I probably had multiple problems, and I believe now I was right. I finally got the memory subsystem stable by running the 9500 Pro at 1.6v, vDIMM at 2.85, 200FSB and 400DDR @ 2-3-4-6, BIOS 1.007. No Turbo, no MAM (haven't been brave enough to try yet). I am no longer getting constant fatal exceptions OE messages -- though I am getting a few fatal exception OB messages that don't hang the system (what's an FE OB?). I'm running Windows 98SE. [EDIT: Please note as below, I've ordered WinXP from Amazon and it will arrive on the 15th. Thanks.]

Suddenly I'm getting Windows Protection Errors. Now, I've had those in the past, and I thought they were specifically related to start-up and shutdown issues. But I'm getting them while installing software off the CDRW or DVD drives. Here's the arrangement. Memtest-86 ran for 8 hours with no errors. Good. I then ran Prime95 torture for another 8 hours. Now, there weren't errors, but it did stop after 8 hours because it was out of memory. Don't know what that might mean. Thoughts? Anyway, So, I don't think its a memory issue. So I want to test it with some gaming. I load 007 Nightfire, currently the only DX8 game that I have, and try to install it. I've got a Toshiba DVD-ROM and an LG CDRW. I put it into the DVD drive and it fails to initialize the Enter Serial Number prompt. Hang. Restart. Put it into the CDRW drive. Serial Prompt shows. Enter serial. Installation commences. I get a prompt to insert Disk 2. I push the button to open the drive. "Windows Protection Error. You must restart your computer. Press any key to coninute." Push a key. "It is now safe to restart your computer."

So I restart. I figure, I'll put disk 1 in the CDRW and disk 2 in the DVD. Double-click DVD icon in My Computer. Windows Protection Error. Okay, so now I wonder if it has something to do with the DVD drive, or possibly the power supply. So I disconnect the DVD. Restart. Start the install from CDRW. The CDRW doesn't even spin up to speed. The installation just sort of stops, doesn't hang, just stops, on a file. End Task. Windows Protection Error. Restart. Delete contents of Windows\Temp and EA Games. Delete registry entries for EA Games and Nightfire. Restart. Attempt install. Gets halfway again. No prompt to insert second disk. Windows Protection Error. Restart. Clear folders and registry. Double-click CD-ROM icon in My Computer. Windows Protection Error.

There were a few other iterations, but you get the idea. I have not idea what's causing this. Suspiscipn: Windows 98 or the PSU. Any thoughts? Please, anything. I've already ordered WindowsXP SP1, so we'll see what that does.
 

cjsketchy

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Yeah, sounds like a windows 98 problem. Did you install the chipset drivers for win98? the ones off the asus cd? I forget what version's on there, but maybe you could try finding a different version of the chipset drivers on the net.
 

funks

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dude, lower your timing even more and your errors will disappear..

lower it to 3-8-3-3

or

2.5 - 8 - 3 - 3

G
 

Revolutionary

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I got to these timings by working down from 2.5-4-4-8. This was the first stable setting I got. Tried 2-3-3-6, but it wasn't as stable. For some reason, I think the various reviews of it online confirm this, these Geil DIMMS really don't like to run at anything but tight timings.

As for HT, its never been enabled since I'm running 98se.

Also, I have updated the inf's from the Asus CD. They haven't released anything updated for them yet.

I thought it might be related to the drive settings, like it was defaulting to PIO mode 2. So I forced PIO 4 in the BIOS but that did nothing. Meanwhile, I was able to install Jedi Outcast on the first try and play for an hour straight with no hiccups. So I really don't know what to think. Hopefully installing XP later this week will take care of it. I'm going to clean install 98, update it fully from Windows Update, install XP, and THEN install the Asus and ATI drivers. Whaddya think?
 

Revolutionary

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Originally posted by: cwalker2000
Not trying to flame you or start a flame war, but why are you installing WIN 98?

Um, because its all I have to install...

I put in the second post: I ordered WinXP. Its just not here yet.
 

Link19

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Windows 98 is a very crumby OS that has lots of problems. With your kind of hardware, there is no reason why not run Windows XP. I would install Windows XP on your machine as it supports hyper threading. If you need to run some old programs not compatible with Windows XP, I would do a dual boot between Windows 98 and Windows XP so you can run your old DOS programs on Windows 98SE and modern stuff on XP.