Weird Request: I need a virus/trojan horse

[aolsuxs]

Not for any malicious purposes or anything. My mom is really concerned that my brother spends too much time on the internet, which I see as well as whenever I call home the phone is always tied. Hes pre-teens/early teen years so hes all rebelious and doesn't listen to anyone. I tell him to limit his time to two hours a day and well he doesn't listen. I personally think is killing his social life, as it seems he has very little friends and spends most of his time splaying starcraft or what not. My mom one of those over protective type, and watched one to many unsolved mystery/Americas most Wanted and feels my brother would some day meet some dude on a chat room and try to meet with them. Sad thing is I am not sure that he wouldnt't. Anyways I am on break this week and I would like to install some sort of program where I could monitor his activities and sees what hes doing and limit him from school. Anyway I can do this?

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[Confused]

Get a sledgehammer
Proceed to hit computer
If required, use sledgehammer on brother until he goes outside.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

BO2K?

(This can be used for legal purposes in theory, but as it usually isn't all virusscanners will rock it)

 

[n0cmonkey]

Set a password on the computer and don't tell him. Let your mom do the spying.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Set a password on the computer and don't tell him. Let your mom do the spying.

Or just tell her you found a box with 'Male to male' on it in his room

 

[palad]

Show your mom how to remove the power supply. Or, just show her how to remove the mouse and keyboard. Also, make sure the computer is in a family room, where your mom can keep and eye on his surfing activities. Letting a young kid have a computer in his own room is a big mistake. Basically, your mom is in charge. If she says 'No computer', she needs to back it up, and physically restrict his access to it.

 

i think thats more of a phase. Being anti-social was something I went through 12-14. I grew out of it though, and I think I am better because of it. Don't force anything, it will only cause him to find other ways to be anti-social. Thats my 2 cents.

 

[SagaLore]

Perhaps you should use a legitimate monitoring software.

 

[OZEE]

You're not the parent -- it's not your place! It's for your parents to take care of.

Yes, you can provide them some tools - passwords, proxies, monitoring, etc. And the "hardcore" stuff is always an option, too -- getting rid of the computer, even to the point of destruction...

 

[zoiks]

Why dont you find out where he chats and impersonate as someone to get his attention. You could catch him redhanded.

 

[SP33Demon]

You need a keylogger, simple as that, that will send u logs remotely without him knowing... I've used software like this before, and it works great for spying on, uh, people you care about... lol

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
You need a keylogger, simple as that, that will send u logs remotely without him knowing... I've used software like this before, and it works great for spying on, uh, people you care about... lol

I'm telling your sister.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
You need a keylogger, simple as that, that will send u logs remotely without him knowing... I've used software like this before, and it works great for spying on, uh, people you care about... lol

If you really cared about someone why would you spy on him/her?

 

[palad]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
You need a keylogger, simple as that, that will send u logs remotely without him knowing... I've used software like this before, and it works great for spying on, uh, people you care about... lol

If you really cared about someone why would you spy on him/her?

If, in your opinion, their judgment is impaired, then it becomes your obligation to help protect them. Your question is like saying 'If you really care for somebody, why won't you give them the freedom to drive drunk?'

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
You need a keylogger, simple as that, that will send u logs remotely without him knowing... I've used software like this before, and it works great for spying on, uh, people you care about... lol

If you really cared about someone why would you spy on him/her?

Caring != trusting.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: palad

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
You need a keylogger, simple as that, that will send u logs remotely without him knowing... I've used software like this before, and it works great for spying on, uh, people you care about... lol

If you really cared about someone why would you spy on him/her?

If, in your opinion, their judgment is impaired, then it becomes your obligation to help protect them. Your question is like saying 'If you really care for somebody, why won't you give them the freedom to drive drunk?'

And under what authority do you undermine the foundation of the United States of America? It is one thing for a parent to monitor their child's behavior and actions. It is another to violate the privacy of someone without justified reasons.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
You need a keylogger, simple as that, that will send u logs remotely without him knowing... I've used software like this before, and it works great for spying on, uh, people you care about... lol

If you really cared about someone why would you spy on him/her?

Caring != trusting.

Again, what gives you the authority to violate that person's rights?

 

[BHeemsoth]

when i was younger, my parents had a program on my computer called watchdog. Basically what it did is it set a time limit for how long a person could be on the computer during a given day. I believe it also restricted access to some programs and websites.

 

[palad]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: palad

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
You need a keylogger, simple as that, that will send u logs remotely without him knowing... I've used software like this before, and it works great for spying on, uh, people you care about... lol

If you really cared about someone why would you spy on him/her?

If, in your opinion, their judgment is impaired, then it becomes your obligation to help protect them. Your question is like saying 'If you really care for somebody, why won't you give them the freedom to drive drunk?'

And under what authority do you undermine the foundation of the United States of America? It is one thing for a parent to monitor their child's behavior and actions. It is another to violate the privacy of someone without justified reasons.

What we are talking about here is a parent monitoring their child's behavior and actions. A parent's responsibility to provide a safe and secure environment for their child does not supercede the child's desire to do whatever they want. If a parent were to turn a blind eye to such a problem, and say that they will respect their child's privacy completely; and the child winds up getting into serious trouble or harm; then the parent would be guilty of neglect.

And remember, a home environment is not a democracy. The child does not get a vote equal to the parents. An ideal home environment is best described as a benevolent dictatorship: the parents will listen the the concerns of the children, but the parents' decisions are final. No contest, no appeal. If a parent feels their child is not practicing safe behavior, it is the parent's right and responsibility to limit that behavior by any means possible. If the kid doesn't like it, they don't have to live there. If they want complete freedom, let them earn it themselves.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: palad

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: palad

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
You need a keylogger, simple as that, that will send u logs remotely without him knowing... I've used software like this before, and it works great for spying on, uh, people you care about... lol

If you really cared about someone why would you spy on him/her?

If, in your opinion, their judgment is impaired, then it becomes your obligation to help protect them. Your question is like saying 'If you really care for somebody, why won't you give them the freedom to drive drunk?'

And under what authority do you undermine the foundation of the United States of America? It is one thing for a parent to monitor their child's behavior and actions. It is another to violate the privacy of someone without justified reasons.

What we are talking about here is[/s] a parent monitoring their child's behavior and actions. A parent's responsibility to provide a safe and secure environment for their child does not supercede the child's desire to do whatever they want. If a parent were to turn a blind eye to such a problem, and say that they will respect their child's privacy completely; and the child winds up getting into serious trouble or harm; then the parent would be guilty of neglect.

No, that is not what is being discussed. We are discussing a child spying on his brother and other situations of similar ilk. I did mention that a parent has the right, and responsibility to monitor his/her child's behavior.

 

[palad]

I was under the impression that his mother was asking for his help in this matter, that it was not just on his own initiative.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: palad
I was under the impression that his mother was asking for his help in this matter, that it was not just on his own initiative.

Anyways I am on break this week and I would like to install some sort of program where I could monitor his activities and sees what hes doing and limit him from school.

That makes me believe it is malevolent, not just stupid. (Do not give credit to melevolence what can be explained by stupidity.)

 

[Richdog]

I agree that its a phase, I used to play games for hours when I was younger (still do but not as much) before I started thinking about girls and sports and if someone had tried to force me to lay off them or restrict my access Id have resented it bigtime.
Have you tried talking to him to find out why he spends all his time gaming and not with friends? Could be something you dont understand or he hasnt told you about. Try all other methods before "spying" on him or pi*sing him off. Thats my humble opinion anyway...

 

[MichaelD]

Set up a group policy on his user name and limit the hours that he can spend logged in (i.e. surfing) Easy and done.

 

[MeanMeosh]

well, considering that (probably) its his home network and (probably) his computer, i think he's in the ok since his mother is worried about his brother. and i think this is a better solution than no computer at all. doesnt sound like his brother is an adult yet, he is still under the care of his mother.

if his brother is going to do something that will (possibly) ruin his family and his life just to spite his mother, then i think the keylogger is justified.