NS1's statement about food being more harmful might sound funny, but there are many foods that are more harmful than MJ. Relative to MJ's danger, you are suggesting fast food should be illegal and fined for consumption, cigarrettes should be illegal and fined for consumption, cigars should be illegal and fined for consumption, etc. Do you agree with that?
No, I equate personal freedoms such as eating food to basically harmless drugs like marijuana. By your logic, things should be illegal for the sake of revenue generation. I get railed for being bigoted against homosex and marriage (ewww grosss stink poo penis ftl), your position is incredibly bigoted. Who are you to say I shouldn't be able to smoke a joint, after work, at home, with my girlfriend before we sit down and watch a movie?
Please explain why you think marijuana should be illegal in the first place. I'm curious. It's illegal because it's bad right? It's bad because it's illegal.. right?
By your own logic, you are really screwed! Not only are you partaking in the ultra deadly food ingestion as am I, but you are also taking in the less deadly marijuana.
No doubt. If it was legal, it would be easier to grow quality, potent herb, so we would have to smoke less, get a cleaner high, inhale more purified smoke, etc. Not to mention wouldn't have to worry about getting tazered or shot.
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yeah right lol
Food - It's impossible to be a truly healthy foodie, so I've cut out butter from home cooking except in rare occasions when nothing else will do, use only olive oil, drastically lowered my red meat intake, lowered sat. fat intake, smaller portions, and eat like 5x as many veggies as I used to, and eat out waaaaaaaaay less. Having a farmers market 10 minutes away helps too.
Herb - The wifey developed a HUGE tolerance to pain meds and MJ, so vaporizers are ineffective at best. We could sit there for hours and hit that shit, so we just smoke hash out of bongs now.
Have you ever heard of the band OSI? It's got the original keyboardist from Dreamtheater doing the singing a most of the songwriting. Then he cuts it all up like in a nin+aphextwin kind of way. The first two cd's had Mike Portnoy drumming, the next one being released next month has Porcupine Tree's gavin harrison drumming.
40Hands
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You really need to stay the fuck out of others lives. How hard is that for people like you? Seems really easy to me. As long as whatever I do effects myself and no one else then it's my prerogative. How hard is that?
Does it somehow irk people like you to know that others might be enjoying life more then you with a simple plant? Is that it? I honestly don't know. Watch too many government propaganda videos? Parents spread the propaganda to you? Using the ol "think of the children" argument or those damn lazy hippies? I think I've heard all the excuses and stereotypes.
You really need to explain why you believe this way. For now, I'm writing it off as ignorance.
dawp
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Maybe you never heard of prohibition in the 1920s? a lot of our present problems can be traced to that "noble experiment'. orginized crime, gang violence, balloning prison population and so forth. prohibition never works. Better to legalize, regulate and tax. all prohibition creates are headaches.
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people already get hefty fines anyways and that doesn't stop it.
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And how are you going to find all thes folks to fine? manditory drug tests for everyone? Like that would ever fly.
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Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Indeed. Policies of no enforcement are eventually applied selectively to the populace to punish certain individuals for something unrelated. It was legal here once, and based on Historical evidence, I'd say that criminalization has created more problems than it was supposed to solve.
Legalize it.
Tax it.
...
More American jobs and tax revenues!
<--- Can't stand the stuff personally, but does like the idea of more $$ for gvt services, smaller prison population, and reduced crime...
LOL, Maybe this is what Obama meant by "Green Economy"
I love the ignorance on your part. You have no idea of my upbringing, my parent's lives, and what I may or may not have experienced in my lifetime. If you wish to partake in an intelligent debate you should try not to personalize the argument. If you wish for me to act in kind, I could state that the typical greenie loves to restrict life in other ways such as making my love of fatty foods all but illegal but when you touch their beloved herb they get all uppity. Surely we should leave the stereotypes out of our arguments as I don't believe you to be the ultra extreme lefty and I hope you don't think I am on the opposite pole.
That was pointless. Please answer this:
Why don't you think it should be legal and regulated, much like alcohol?
What's with all your blather about intelligent debate? You said you'd have no problem with alcohol being illegal. Apparently you have no comprehension what an idiot such a comment makes of you. We actually allowed fools like you to talk us into that once and it was soon reversed after seeing it to be a titanic disaster. You, Sir, are a loon. You should also be fined for being so stupid. Don't try to appeal to the rules of reasonable debate when you open your mouth to announce to the world you're a fool. If you can't grasp the facts of Prohibition, you're not worth talking to in any other way. People laugh when an infant demands to be treated like an adult.
exactly. It's almost good enough in Cali as is. Wanna smoke weed? Just go to your doctor and get a prescribtion. My illinois doctor already said he would do it for me if it were legal here.
You resort to name calling yet again. Prohibition might not have worked in the 1920's, but the argument that it did not work then does not mean it can't work now.
It is not appropriate for me to state why I think the law should remain as it is. It *is* appropriate for you to argue why I should change my stance *if* you think that the law should be changed. The only way the law will change is for those who believe the current law is wrong make their case in some coherent and logical way.
So far, I have seen zero true arguments on this in the thread. All I have seen is the fanatics coming out of the woodwork.
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