Love Muse and I had zero idea they even mentioned politics of any sort in their songs. 😕
KT
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Love Muse and I had zero idea they even mentioned politics of any sort in their songs. 😕
KT
Conrad and Helia are out. Just another example of left wingers talking big about combating racism but in reality being racists. 😛 I mean look how hispanics are portrayed on the show? And all indian young men are sexually confused? And jews are gamblers?
Did I miss that somehow?
I believe he is bothered by the fact that they are making a political stance at all - the stance being made is irrelevant.
I would tend to agree - though a lot of good music has come from political stances. Things like politics and relationships and religion bring out emotion, which bring out good art.
In the case of Weeds, it has potential to bring out good humor. But as I said in my previous post, it largely isn't done well and comes off as unnecessary. The show definitely has a bias to it, unfortunately rarely does good writing come from it.
Booo Season 4 spoilers now, have to leave the thread.
<-- no Showtime in Canada. 🙁
KT
<-- no Showtime in Canada. 🙁
KT
Aikouka
Lifer
Silly, listen to the Black Holes and Revelations album 🙂. Almost every single song has something political about it. The first and fifth songs are the most obvious but the rest have subtle messages in them. You could probably just look up the lyrics and see it too... I believe song #3 has some obvious lines if I remember correctly.
The rest of their albums seem to be fine from what I've seen, although I'm not exactly a political connoisseur, so chances that I'd miss something are high 🙂.
Personally, I prefer Dexter and Californication over Weeds, but Weeds is still fun to watch.
I don't care what they think, but I hate the idea of people trying to use their "popularity" to push their opinion onto me. I think the same thing when an actor will start spouting off crap. I believe it was Bruce Willis who said something along the lines of, "it doesn't really matter what I think, it doesn't mean anything more than you" I can't remember the exact quote (I read it on here awhile ago), but you get the gist of what he's saying.
Who said I don't still enjoy the show or the music even though there's an agenda in there? I wrote the post because I wasn't sure exactly the way they were leaning with eco-friendliness as they had shown strong leanings toward other things in the show. I obviously don't necessarily let it get to me if my only complaint about the show after watch nearly 3 seasons is the same as ducci's (the show having no real aim anymore). Also, I still listen to Muse's Black Holes and Revelations album... it's actually pretty good if you ignore those political rants woven into song. Although, almost the entire album is full of political messages, but I try to ignore it as they're not as obvious as "You will burn in hell for your sins" (part of the first song) and a track titled like "Soldier's Poem." There are parts of songs talking about not believing what your government says... opening your mind and crap like that as well, but I still listen to those songs. That aforementioned album is the only one that's like this that I've found from Muse though.
It's also the severity of it to some extent. I don't care if it's far and few in between. Kind of like the talk of Muse above... only two songs are blatantly obvious, but the rest have lines in them that can be understood as referring to politics too. I wouldn't have minded it so much in Weeds, but Andy kept blabbing on for episodes about war for oil, being pawns of the government, etc. It wasn't subtle by any means and you're right about it not being funny. Am I supposed to find a couple kids trying to beat up Shane because he won't convert to Christianity funny? I found it more amusing how he got screwed over by Isabelle 😛.
I can easily ignore it and I obviously have if I've kept going, but do I think the show would be better without it? Yeah.
yllus
Elite Member & Lifer
Dude, the first thirty seconds of the first song on Black Holes And Revelations is devoted to wishing that your President burns in hell. 😛
Corrupt, you corrupt,
and Bring corruption to all that you touch.
Hold, you?ll behold,
And be holden for all that you've done.
Spell, cast a spell,
Cast a spell on the country you run.
And risk, you will risk,
You will risk all their lives and their souls.
And burn, you will burn,
You will burn in hell, yeah you?ll burn in hell.
You?ll burn in hell, yeah you?ll burn in hell for your sins.
Aikouka
Lifer
I actually like that song too... not necessarily for what it says, but it still has a good sound to it (or so I think). I guess the brevity helps too as I definitely skip Soldier's Poem whenever it comes on (too soft for me)... 'cause frankly Map of the Problematique (#4) is a great song and Invincible (#6) is good too, so I just keep on the goodness 🙂.
EDIT:
Now I need to get to season 4 to find out why it's so good 🙁.
True dat.
I get most of my musical political messages from punk, which are typically a little more overt (fuck the government, etc., etc.), so I tend to miss out on some of the more nuanced musical messages, though reading what was posted there makes it seem pretty obvious. 😛
KT
ShotgunSteven
Lifer
Just finished watching season one. The only overt political stuff that jumped out at me was the brother-in-law's rant about Bush and Iraq in the episode The Godmother. It felt very forced into the episode, not like the normal flow of the show.
I like the show. :thumbsup:
I like the show. :thumbsup:
meltdown75
Lifer
their agenda is to make Aikouka of Anandtech think about agendas and post about it on the internets.
Aikouka
Lifer
My friend said she was on some other show... I think he said Nip/Tuck, but I'm not entirely sure.
Yeah, it was a bit awkward when that happened... and then there's Isabelle the raging lesbo... ready to charge like a rhino at anything with titties.
It seems like they're throwing a lot of crap in there for really no reason.
I also feel bad for poor Guillermo 🙁. He was tryin' to helps Blanca and she threw it in his face and the cold-hearted bitch doesn't even realize it. Fuck Blanca... fuck her... >_> <_< I sure wouldn't mind.
Those bastards 🙁.
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