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Weather Channel founder John Coleman - Global Warming a Global Scam

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hellokeith

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Link to news story

Link to John's blog at KUSI San Diego

"Although Coleman states that he has read dozens of scientific papers, talked with numerous scientists and has a meterological background still his statement carries no more than sheer opinionated weight. Coleman says that our planet is not in peril. The truth of the matter is that the debate on global warming remains open."

I find it refreshing that this journalist would not softball John's opinion, and yet he states the honest truth that Global Warming is still open for debate. Even after Al "the debate is over" oscar-winner nobel peace prize Gore's movies and interviews and wildly successful carbon credit business, the honest truth is that Global Warming is still debateable..

The founder of the Weather Channel doesn't even think warming exists. How much more pointed can you get than that?
 
Amazing, considering Bush and almost everyone else concedes there is climate change going on, and that change is elevated temperatures. Also known as 'getting warmer'. The only thing reasonble people are still debating is the cause and man's role.

This "debate" is as open as the "debate" on evolution.
 
Nice link. Whether or not global warming itself exists isnt really in contention. I mean, if avg temps go up they go up. But shit...it's been doing that for thousands of years. Cycling temps that is. Then there is the report someone posted here (cant remember) about how the polar ice cap is actually growing. Here's a quick example

What causes polar ice caps to melt?
Changing wind patterns causes the ice caps to melt. As they melt, the moving water corrodes at the remaining ice, speeding up the process. In the past, people have thought the melting of the polar ice caps was due to "global warming". As the ice caps are growing again, we now see that global warming is not the cause and actually a natural cycle in itself.

So, whatever. Also there was another poignant statement posed, which, I dont give a fuck who you are, it cant be proven: If mankind as a planet stopped ALL emissions, would warming stop? The answer is probably no.

Anyway. Yet Another GW thread I guess.
 
I believe that if all the humans on earth just concentrated very hard and had loving thoughts global warming could be halted.
 
It's a good thing the weather channel's content is based on hard, verifiable evidence... unlike it's founder's dumbass opinions. 😛
 
Was this article even proofread? "There is scientific arguments both for and against global warming"? Oh, there is, is there? Well, I happen to think there is some commas ommisioned from this piece. It sound like it written by high schooler.

And you really should be careful posting articles like this hellokeith. The conclusion, if you can call it that, is that there is more evidence for global warming than against it.
 
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Nice link. Whether or not global warming itself exists isnt really in contention. I mean, if avg temps go up they go up. But shit...it's been doing that for thousands of years. Cycling temps that is. Then there is the report someone posted here (cant remember) about how the polar ice cap is actually growing. Here's a quick example

What causes polar ice caps to melt?
Changing wind patterns causes the ice caps to melt. As they melt, the moving water corrodes at the remaining ice, speeding up the process. In the past, people have thought the melting of the polar ice caps was due to "global warming". As the ice caps are growing again, we now see that global warming is not the cause and actually a natural cycle in itself.

So, whatever. Also there was another poignant statement posed, which, I dont give a fuck who you are, it cant be proven: If mankind as a planet stopped ALL emissions, would warming stop? The answer is probably no.

Anyway. Yet Another GW thread I guess.
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thats a high-caliber link.

 
Am I the only person who find it interesting how selective some people are in choosing which opinions and individuals they listen to on a topic like global warming? I mean, what argument makes listening to the Weather Channel founder a good idea while at the same time dismissing a climate scientist who says something different? There is no logic to that kind of thinking beyond the pre-determined "logic" that makes up political views...the folks who are right are the folks who agree with me.

Personally I find the discussion scientifically interesting, and I think it's worth listening to ALL of the actual science types expressing their views. After doing so, my conclusion is that global warming is happening and we're probably a major contributing factor. I can respect someone who looks at the evidence and ideas and comes to some other conclusion, but I have a problem with people who support their viewpoint by taking a sample of the people who agree with them.

I think the topic of global warming is interesting, but the "debate" is more interesting because of what it reveals about politics. "I'm going to only listen to this guy because he agrees with me, and because I don't like Al Gore" is pretty astonishingly stupid from a scientific standpoint...all the more so because people holding that opinion seem to universally believe they are being reasonable about the whole thing. Yet it becomes pretty obvious why it's such a popular approach...because this is about politics WAY more than it is about science.
 
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I believe that if all the humans on earth just concentrated very hard and had loving thoughts global warming could be halted.
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Actually I think if humans werent filled with such self hate temps would decrease.
 
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Nice link. Whether or not global warming itself exists isnt really in contention. I mean, if avg temps go up they go up. But shit...it's been doing that for thousands of years. Cycling temps that is. Then there is the report someone posted here (cant remember) about how the polar ice cap is actually growing. Here's a quick example

What causes polar ice caps to melt?
Changing wind patterns causes the ice caps to melt. As they melt, the moving water corrodes at the remaining ice, speeding up the process. In the past, people have thought the melting of the polar ice caps was due to "global warming". As the ice caps are growing again, we now see that global warming is not the cause and actually a natural cycle in itself.

So, whatever. Also there was another poignant statement posed, which, I dont give a fuck who you are, it cant be proven: If mankind as a planet stopped ALL emissions, would warming stop? The answer is probably no.

Anyway. Yet Another GW thread I guess.
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thats a high-caliber link.
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High caliber, maybe maybe not. Interesting? Yes.
 
Huh?

Because he owns a Weather Reporting Corporation that makes a profit off of nothing more than reporting the news he is now some philanthropist or humanitarian who is the overlord of all of the science world?

That is like the Bush Family Mafia owning oil wells and being in business with Saudi Royal family but not willing to manipulate the oil prices or go to war for oil resources
 
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Nice link. Whether or not global warming itself exists isnt really in contention. I mean, if avg temps go up they go up. But shit...it's been doing that for thousands of years. Cycling temps that is. Then there is the report someone posted here (cant remember) about how the polar ice cap is actually growing. Here's a quick example

What causes polar ice caps to melt?
Changing wind patterns causes the ice caps to melt. As they melt, the moving water corrodes at the remaining ice, speeding up the process. In the past, people have thought the melting of the polar ice caps was due to "global warming". As the ice caps are growing again, we now see that global warming is not the cause and actually a natural cycle in itself.

So, whatever. Also there was another poignant statement posed, which, I dont give a fuck who you are, it cant be proven: If mankind as a planet stopped ALL emissions, would warming stop? The answer is probably no.

Anyway. Yet Another GW thread I guess.
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thats a high-caliber link.
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High caliber, maybe maybe not. Interesting? Yes.
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How is it interesting, because it tells you what you want tot here and then offers not sources or even a logical argument as to why?
 
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
thats a high-caliber link.
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Jeez, do liberals have to associate everything with guns? :laugh:

You're right, the link may be too "high caliber" for some to understand.

 
Originally posted by: Harvey
It's a good thing the weather channel's content is based on hard, verifiable evidence... unlike it's founder's dumbass opinions. 😛
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"Being a TV weatherman in San Diego is an outrageous scam." - John Coleman

John Coleman Bio

John also cooked up the idea of a cable channel devoted to nothing but weather and spent six years developing "The Weather Channel" on cable. "That's my baby", he says. "The bad guys took it away from me, but they can't steal the fact that it was my idea and I started it and ran it for the first year.
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I guess JC's special word this month is "Scam!" I'd like to hear Mr. Coleman debate the fundamental science of climate change with Al Gore. Make a great pay-per-view 😀
 
Am I the only person who find it interesting how selective some people are in choosing which opinions and individuals they listen to on a topic like global warming?
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Nope 🙂 It's so common. Somebody studies an issue a little or not at all and forms an opinion, then finds information to support the opinion and ignores contradictory information, continually cementing their loyalty to the idea.

all the more so because people holding that opinion seem to universally believe they are being reasonable about the whole thing.
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Yep.

Many are not honest with themselves about whether with a solid conflicing argument they would be willing to change their stance. I know personally I am. Probably not in all issues, but in some I have switched completely. How many here have held near and dear to their heart an idea, it was basically proven as nonsense, and they shed it for the crap it is? I have yet to drop the idea that I am awesome, though. One day perhaps enough conflicting evidence will have me shed that, too 🙂
 
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: Harvey
It's a good thing the weather channel's content is based on hard, verifiable evidence... unlike it's founder's dumbass opinions. 😛
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"Being a TV weatherman in San Diego is an outrageous scam." - John Coleman

John Coleman Bio

John also cooked up the idea of a cable channel devoted to nothing but weather and spent six years developing "The Weather Channel" on cable. "That's my baby", he says. "The bad guys took it away from me, but they can't steal the fact that it was my idea and I started it and ran it for the first year.
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I guess JC's special word this month is "Scam!" I'd like to hear Mr. Coleman debate the fundamental science of climate change with Al Gore. Make a great pay-per-view 😀
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Thank you finding the link and quotes.. I bet the idiots in here will find a way to sidestep and avoid it ..

 
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
thats a high-caliber link.
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Jeez, do liberals have to associate everything with guns? :laugh:

You're right, the link may be too "high caliber" for some to understand.
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wtf? There isn't anything in the link, what is there to understand?
 
Is the planet in peril or the human lifestyle on the planet in peril.

the planet seems to have been through a lot worse and rebounded in terms of weather pattern shifts.

Yes it did not bode well for the existing inhabitants, but no one has yet shown that the plant is for our use exclusively.
 
Originally posted by: dahunan
Why do people feel so desperate to disassociate themselves from the mess they help create?
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you are assuming we can actually have a significant impact on reducing warming...which is an arrogant assumption.
 
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: dahunan
Why do people feel so desperate to disassociate themselves from the mess they help create?
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you are assuming we can actually have a significant impact on reducing warming...which is an arrogant assumption.
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Well if we're helping to cause it, that's a pretty basic assumption in my mind. Your unstated position is one nobody is actually taking, nobody that I know is arguing that we're NOT causing global warming but we should try to limit it anyways.
 
This guy is an arrogant ass.
"Any person who spends a decade at a university obtaining a PHD in Meteorology and become a research scientist, more likely than not, becomes a part of that single minded culture. They all look askance at the rest of us, certain of their superiority. They respect government and disrespect business, particularly big business. They are environmentalists above all else. "

Sounds like somebody has preconceived notions of what PHD meterologists think and do.
Kind of what he is accusing others of doing.

"I have learned since the Ice Age is coming scare in the 1970's to always be a skeptic about research. In the case of global warming, I didn't accept media accounts. Instead I read dozens of the scientific papers. I have talked with numerous scientists. I have studied. I have thought about it. I know I am correct when I assure you there is no run away climate change. The impact of humans on climate is not catastrophic. Our planet is not in peril. It is all a scam, the result of bad science."

Anyone that says "I know I am correct..." is most likely incorrect, and they are definitely an arrogant SOB. So are we to believe this San Diego weatherman, or the many PHD scientists that say otherwise?
 
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