We should send an army to Beijing

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IL2SturmovikPilot

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Originally posted by: darkxshade
Originally posted by: tiejiba
Look at how fast we advanced in Iraq.
It will a relatively task for our forces.

Look at how fast China advanced in Tibet. :D

Iraq's army ~120,000 at time of invasion
Chinese army ~2.25 bil currently
US army ~1.5 bil currently

them>us

F22 > J-10
Simply because neither of those planes are in service in huge numbers,i'll make a better comparision.

F-16 > J-7 (Which is basically a chinese version of the MiG-21)

 

tiejiba

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Originally posted by: Imdmn04
Originally posted by: tiejiba
They take our money away and they take our jobs away.

We should send our forces to Beijing and force them stop making cheap crap for Walmart or Target or Dell from their bloody cheap labor factory.

Anyone second that?

They are only taking the uneducated Americans' jobs away. Why the fuck would I pay someone $10/hour to put a screw on when someone in China is willing to do it for $.50/hr?

Because they are your fellow American.
 

metalmania

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Just noticed that OP's user name means "Iron Pennis" in Chinese language. Are you an America-Born-Chinese?
 

fuzzybabybunny

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Originally posted by: tiejiba
Originally posted by: Imdmn04
Originally posted by: tiejiba
They take our money away and they take our jobs away.

We should send our forces to Beijing and force them stop making cheap crap for Walmart or Target or Dell from their bloody cheap labor factory.

Anyone second that?

They are only taking the uneducated Americans' jobs away. Why the fuck would I pay someone $10/hour to put a screw on when someone in China is willing to do it for $.50/hr?

Because they are your fellow American.

Please explain how such thinking will benefit America in the long run. Will doing this make our products more competitive globally? How will paying too much for a job that is worth very little actually help anyone? Emotions and patriotism is something that can easily lead you to failure in a competitive, "show me the money," global economy.
 

Eeezee

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Originally posted by: simms
Originally posted by: Eeezee
Originally posted by: clamum
Uh the Chinese army isn't 2.25 billion.

People like you need to learn how to post correctly.

If it's not 2.25 billion, then tell us how big it actually is (and include whatever link you used for that info).

I'm sick of idiots like you showing up, telling someone they're wrong and leaving it at that. You look like a moron! All you've done is made a huge fool out of yourself without actually contradicting anyone.

You're a lifer for fuck's sake, shouldn't you know how to post?!

less than a min on google:
us: <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html#Military">https://www.cia.gov/library......s/us.html#Military</a>
cn: <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ch.html#Military">https://www.cia.gov/library......s/ch.html#Military</a>

Precisely; and wouldn't you agree that the the poster is the one who should have spent that less than a min?

One person spending less than a min and providing links
OR
dozens of posters spending less than a min and finding the links themselves

That makes sense, right?
 

Nerva

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there is such a huge trade deficit with china because the cost of labor there is so cheap, that's why chinese goods are cheap, making them more attractive than american produced goods. however, as china develops, those input costs will rise and the price of the chinese goods will rise.

i suspect it will be the same people crying and moaning about cheap chinese goods who will bitch about expensive chinese goods in the future.
 

fuzzybabybunny

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Originally posted by: 3cho
there is such a huge trade deficit with china because the cost of labor there is so cheap, that's why chinese goods are cheap, making them more attractive than american produced goods. however, as china develops, those input costs will rise and the price of the chinese goods will rise.

i suspect it will be the same people crying and moaning about cheap chinese goods who will bitch about expensive chinese goods in the future.

I predict that companies will move to other sources of cheap labor. It's simply the nature of things.

As we move into developing economies we get the benefits of cheap labor and cheap production. At the same time we also slowly increase the quality of life in these developing economies (people have more purchasing power, labor gets more and more expensive, etc). When labor gets to be too expensive we simply move into new areas. In real life it's not so stepwise. Companies gradually move into new areas at the same time as labor rates increase in developing economies.

You can see this right now in Vietnam and Cambodia, which are set to be tomorrow's China in production and labor. It'll take a while, but eventually I predict that we might come close to running out of really cheap labor, at which point companies will have to compete more on the merits of their innovative products rather than the cost advantages afforded to them by cheap labor.
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
I think I might get some General Tso's chicken tonight. Oooo... and crab rangoon.

you are ok on the general tso... such dish is not chinese :) crab rangoon is definitely not chinese.

Well, I order it from a place called "China House" right down the road from where I live. But then again they have fried chicken there, I'm pretty sure that isn't Chinese either. :confused:

Depends on how it is done... there is Fried Chicken in Chinese, just not the same as the American style.

I can tell you it's not a Chinese restaurant by its name "China House" :)
 

videogames101

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Idk, he could be making the point that the "people's Republic of CHina" is not the people's nor is a free republic.
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: videogames101
Idk, he could be making the point that the "people's Republic of CHina" is not the people's nor is a free republic.

Nor is it a Republic :)
 

tiejiba

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I always believe the whole was a setup by Chinese.

They lure American Retailer with money product and try to murder American with their cheap junk.

If they did not try to damage our country, why did not they export products with reasonably good quality?

 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: tiejiba
I always believe the whole was a setup by Chinese.

They lure American Retailer with money product and try to murder American with their cheap junk.

If they did not try to damage our country, why did not they export products with reasonably good quality?

err, because American companies (and shockingly the public) wants to buy it? Stop buying junk and the importers would stop importing them.
 

videogames101

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China is a scar on the world, a communist country with a horrible human rights record (cough tibet cough), and yet, the US still allows trade with them. WTF?
 

Imdmn04

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Originally posted by: videogames101
China is a scar on the world, a communist country with a horrible human rights record (cough tibet cough), and yet, the US still allows trade with them. WTF?

Because U.S. is not really on any higher moral ground than China is.

If we really want adhere to our principles, then why trade with China at all? Because we are all slaves to $$$.

So stop whining because if you do, you have to place the blame on every stakeholder in this game, and not just China.
 

AliasX

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Luckily we never have to worry about China fucking with us because we buy all their shit. They piss us off, they lose their income.
 

Eeezee

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Originally posted by: fuzzybabybunny
Originally posted by: 3cho
there is such a huge trade deficit with china because the cost of labor there is so cheap, that's why chinese goods are cheap, making them more attractive than american produced goods. however, as china develops, those input costs will rise and the price of the chinese goods will rise.

i suspect it will be the same people crying and moaning about cheap chinese goods who will bitch about expensive chinese goods in the future.

I predict that companies will move to other sources of cheap labor. It's simply the nature of things.

As we move into developing economies we get the benefits of cheap labor and cheap production. At the same time we also slowly increase the quality of life in these developing economies (people have more purchasing power, labor gets more and more expensive, etc). When labor gets to be too expensive we simply move into new areas. In real life it's not so stepwise. Companies gradually move into new areas at the same time as labor rates increase in developing economies.

You can see this right now in Vietnam and Cambodia, which are set to be tomorrow's China in production and labor. It'll take a while, but eventually I predict that we might come close to running out of really cheap labor, at which point companies will have to compete more on the merits of their innovative products rather than the cost advantages afforded to them by cheap labor.

Or we'll just start building robots

Or we'll be wiped out by then

Or we'll convert the lower class into a slave class :p