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jjyiz28

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Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Originally posted by: jjyiz28
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Originally posted by: yllus
It's a shame that being an innovative company that legitimately has won dominance in the marketplace through hard work is pissed upon by people who have absolutely no sense of how economics or markets work.

It seems to be the common trend among techie elitists to desire the downfall of successful companies. Look at all the Microsoft protesters on this forum, and the Intel haters. I do not know if it is just an extreme leftist political desire to balance everything or merely common jealousy of success that breeds it, but it's cool to hate whoever is on top for no other reason than that they're number one.

let me make this simple for you.

those "haters" hate monopolies. monopolies means higher costs, therefore they favor the underdog.


Please tell me how Intel has a monopoly on the CPU market? They are a succesful company, but by no means do they prevent other companies from entering the business by maintaining any sort of strangehold on key resources or channels. Look at AMD, Motorola, IBM, VIA, SUN, etc. Do you think that because a company is good at what they do and gain market share through hard work that they ought be regulated out of existance? What motivation should any company then have to succeed? Your ineptitude at business rivals your punctuation in your ridiculous posts. Troll elsewhere.


Oohh noeess!! u r using teh big words on meh. you must know what you are talking about.
 
Jan 31, 2002
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Originally posted by: jjyiz28
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Originally posted by: jjyiz28
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Originally posted by: yllus
It's a shame that being an innovative company that legitimately has won dominance in the marketplace through hard work is pissed upon by people who have absolutely no sense of how economics or markets work.

It seems to be the common trend among techie elitists to desire the downfall of successful companies. Look at all the Microsoft protesters on this forum, and the Intel haters. I do not know if it is just an extreme leftist political desire to balance everything or merely common jealousy of success that breeds it, but it's cool to hate whoever is on top for no other reason than that they're number one.

let me make this simple for you.

those "haters" hate monopolies. monopolies means higher costs, therefore they favor the underdog.


Please tell me how Intel has a monopoly on the CPU market? They are a succesful company, but by no means do they prevent other companies from entering the business by maintaining any sort of strangehold on key resources or channels. Look at AMD, Motorola, IBM, VIA, SUN, etc. Do you think that because a company is good at what they do and gain market share through hard work that they ought be regulated out of existance? What motivation should any company then have to succeed? Your ineptitude at business rivals your punctuation in your ridiculous posts. Troll elsewhere.


Oohh noeess!! u r using teh big words on meh. you must know what you are talking about.

Subtitle: "Sh!t, this guy just utterly owned me. I'd better whine like a stuck pig and cry Jargon at him and hope that no one notices I'm still a dumbass!"

- M4H
 

jjyiz28

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: jjyiz28
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Originally posted by: jjyiz28
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Originally posted by: yllus
It's a shame that being an innovative company that legitimately has won dominance in the marketplace through hard work is pissed upon by people who have absolutely no sense of how economics or markets work.

It seems to be the common trend among techie elitists to desire the downfall of successful companies. Look at all the Microsoft protesters on this forum, and the Intel haters. I do not know if it is just an extreme leftist political desire to balance everything or merely common jealousy of success that breeds it, but it's cool to hate whoever is on top for no other reason than that they're number one.

let me make this simple for you.

those "haters" hate monopolies. monopolies means higher costs, therefore they favor the underdog.


Please tell me how Intel has a monopoly on the CPU market? They are a succesful company, but by no means do they prevent other companies from entering the business by maintaining any sort of strangehold on key resources or channels. Look at AMD, Motorola, IBM, VIA, SUN, etc. Do you think that because a company is good at what they do and gain market share through hard work that they ought be regulated out of existance? What motivation should any company then have to succeed? Your ineptitude at business rivals your punctuation in your ridiculous posts. Troll elsewhere.


Oohh noeess!! u r using teh big words on meh. you must know what you are talking about.

Subtitle: "Sh!t, this guy just utterly owned me. I'd better whine like a stuck pig and cry Jargon at him and hope that no one notices I'm still a dumbass!"

- M4H

you guys are stroke partners i see. all is well.

its obvious you two didn't read my previous post carefully. "haters" support underdogs so that a monopoly doesn't occur. and its not like AMD is giving us sub par performance. i never said microsoft, intel or whatever has a monopoly on anything. if you two numbnuts would just take the time to read others post before blabbering on and on and on....
 

Jmmsbnd007

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Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Originally posted by: jjyiz28
whats a OP ban??


i agree with you guys that said OEM is key. i think HP is selling AMD systems.

batmannate: "So let me get this straight...we ban Intel, there is no competition for AMD, and we're back to paying 5 large for a CPU? You genius, you. "

nathan, you are an idiot. you overvalue anandtech. you think all computers uses are on AT, and if all of AT users ban intel, intel has no business. you are DUMB. again, another idiot that didn't read my post carefully


Incoherent English was never my stong suit, what exactly are you trying to say with your post? It sounds to me like you're just a brand whore who thinks no one serious about computers should buy Intel. If AMD made a processor that crunched MPEG4 as fast as a 3.3GHz P4c then I'd be all over it, but they don't. When the dual Athlon XP rig was the performance leader in this category, that's what I used. Now that the Pentium 4 has outpaced it by a substantial amount, that is what I use. You see, some of us buy the processor that is most suited for what we use our computers for instead of trying to promote the success of any one brand for reasons other than the merits of the product and its value toward our application. Pull your head out of your ass.
A64. Onboard memory controller.
I'm *still* waiting for some dumb@ss to try and say AMD cpus are less "reliable" and produce more heat (Prescott anyone?).


I'm aware that the A64 has an onboard memory controller, but it still crunches DiVX slower than the P4 in every bench I've seen.
Kyle Bannit may be a sh!tface, but his reviews aren't too bad accuracy wise.
We're seeing much different results here than we did with our MP3 conversion. Both flavors of the Athlon64 CPUs clearly lead the category over the Pentium 4s. The AthlonFX finished approximately 9 minutes faster than the P4, and if you're ripping a lot of movies back-to-back this could certainly make a difference.

What's probably most noteworthy about this graph is not the fact that the Athlon64s outpaced the P4, but that the AthlonXP 3200+ got outpaced as well by the Athlon64 3200+. Also consider that the P4 and the P4EE came in at a dead tie, which suggests that the extra CPU cache is not a factor in this benchmark. If cache is not a factor here, then it would make sense that pipeline enhancements made to the new K8 core certainly did impact instructions per clock as can be seen when comparing the two 3200+ rated CPUs side by side.




Anand seems to disagree.

DivX Encoding
We have been using a DivX encoding test as a part of our CPU benchmarking suite for quite some time now, however the performance test has never been truly realistic as it wasn't geared towards producing a high quality DivX rip - rather it was designed to stress CPU performance.

We have since revised our benchmark and now follow the DivX 5 encoding guide published at Doom9.net. For our test title we use Chapter 9 from The Sum of All Fears DVD. We conduct a 2-pass encoding process and report the encoded FPS from both passes averaged together. The results are lower than our previous Xmpeg tests, however they are much more applicable to real-world usage.



Intel continues to do extremely well under content creation applications such as DivX encoding; the clear leader here is still Intel.


This is important to me as I crunch DiVX in a nearly identical manner as Doom9's guide. Kyle's test wasn't very realistic as far as how people actually encode a DiVX movie if they are at all quality minded.
Well, considering softOCP shows the computer specs in-depth, whereas the AT review doesn't even say what specific model of motherboard (aside from nForce 3), no info on hard drives, etc...
 

Maverick

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Intel did pull some crap in the past...I remember when my dad bought that pentium overdrive chip for our 486 DX2 66mhz. Spposedly it turned our computer into a P90. All I know is that my friend P90 destroyed my machine completely when playing doom2 even with the overdrive chip.

What a bunch of a horsesh!t
 

Cyberian

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Originally posted by: jjyiz28

its obvious you two didn't read my previous post carefully. "haters" support underdogs so that a monopoly doesn't occur. and its not like AMD is giving us sub par performance. i never said microsoft, intel or whatever has a monopoly on anything. if you two numbnuts would just take the time to read others post before blabbering on and on and on....
I just went back and re-read all your posts.
They still make no sense.

 
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Originally posted by: jjyiz28
you guys are stroke partners i see. all is well.

its obvious you two didn't read my previous post carefully. "haters" support underdogs so that a monopoly doesn't occur. and its not like AMD is giving us sub par performance. i never said microsoft, intel or whatever has a monopoly on anything. if you two numbnuts would just take the time to read others post before blabbering on and on and on....

*curtain rises*


  • Stupidity
    An eight-post noveletta by jjyiz28
    ( 1 ) omgz, intel is teh suck, get A64/Barton/Tbred
    ( 2 ) we need to work together or AMD will diex0r!!
    ( 3 ) oh noes, intel changes their socket specs! we should all be on socket 7!
    ( 4 ) someone owned me, better call them stupid!
    ( 5 ) hey, someone bought AMD, they R t3h L33tz0r like JeffK!!!1!1one!
    ( 6 ) Any more room on the bandwagon? I have to justify my Intel-Hatred! Intel has a monopoly!!!
    ( 7 ) Oohh noeess!! u r using teh big words on meh. you must know what you are talking about.
    ( 8 ) I'm angry at my small penis! And I'm rolling back on my Intel-Monopoly bit!

- M4H
 

Tetsuo

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: jjyiz28
you guys are stroke partners i see. all is well.

its obvious you two didn't read my previous post carefully. "haters" support underdogs so that a monopoly doesn't occur. and its not like AMD is giving us sub par performance. i never said microsoft, intel or whatever has a monopoly on anything. if you two numbnuts would just take the time to read others post before blabbering on and on and on....

*curtain rises*


  • Stupidity
    An eight-post noveletta by jjyiz28
    ( 1 ) omgz, intel is teh suck, get A64/Barton/Tbred
    ( 2 ) we need to work together or AMD will diex0r!!
    ( 3 ) oh noes, intel changes their socket specs! we should all be on socket 7!
    ( 4 ) someone owned me, better call them stupid!
    ( 5 ) hey, someone bought AMD, they R t3h L33tz0r like JeffK!!!1!1one!
    ( 6 ) Any more room on the bandwagon? I have to justify my Intel-Hatred! Intel has a monopoly!!!
    ( 7 ) Oohh noeess!! u r using teh big words on meh. you must know what you are talking about.
    ( 8 ) I'm angry at my small penis! And I'm rolling back on my Intel-Monopoly bit!

- M4H



pwn3d!!
 

jjyiz28

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Jan 11, 2003
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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: jjyiz28
you guys are stroke partners i see. all is well.

its obvious you two didn't read my previous post carefully. "haters" support underdogs so that a monopoly doesn't occur. and its not like AMD is giving us sub par performance. i never said microsoft, intel or whatever has a monopoly on anything. if you two numbnuts would just take the time to read others post before blabbering on and on and on....

*curtain rises*


  • Stupidity
    An eight-post noveletta by jjyiz28
    ( 1 ) omgz, intel is teh suck, get A64/Barton/Tbred
    ( 2 ) we need to work together or AMD will diex0r!!
    ( 3 ) oh noes, intel changes their socket specs! we should all be on socket 7!
    ( 4 ) someone owned me, better call them stupid!
    ( 5 ) hey, someone bought AMD, they R t3h L33tz0r like JeffK!!!1!1one!
    ( 6 ) Any more room on the bandwagon? I have to justify my Intel-Hatred! Intel has a monopoly!!!
    ( 7 ) Oohh noeess!! u r using teh big words on meh. you must know what you are talking about.
    ( 8 ) I'm angry at my small penis! And I'm rolling back on my Intel-Monopoly bit!

- M4H

::yawn::

took u awhile to type that up eh??
i guess we just agree to disagree.

BAN TETSUO!!! hHAHHAHAHAHha. you by far #$^#%^@^

 

Tetsuo

Lifer
Oct 20, 2002
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Originally posted by: jjyiz28
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: jjyiz28
you guys are stroke partners i see. all is well.

its obvious you two didn't read my previous post carefully. "haters" support underdogs so that a monopoly doesn't occur. and its not like AMD is giving us sub par performance. i never said microsoft, intel or whatever has a monopoly on anything. if you two numbnuts would just take the time to read others post before blabbering on and on and on....

*curtain rises*


  • Stupidity
    An eight-post noveletta by jjyiz28
    ( 1 ) omgz, intel is teh suck, get A64/Barton/Tbred
    ( 2 ) we need to work together or AMD will diex0r!!
    ( 3 ) oh noes, intel changes their socket specs! we should all be on socket 7!
    ( 4 ) someone owned me, better call them stupid!
    ( 5 ) hey, someone bought AMD, they R t3h L33tz0r like JeffK!!!1!1one!
    ( 6 ) Any more room on the bandwagon? I have to justify my Intel-Hatred! Intel has a monopoly!!!
    ( 7 ) Oohh noeess!! u r using teh big words on meh. you must know what you are talking about.
    ( 8 ) I'm angry at my small penis! And I'm rolling back on my Intel-Monopoly bit!

- M4H

::yawn::

took u awhile to type that up eh??
i guess we just agree to disagree.

BAN TETSUO!!! hHAHHAHAHAHha. you by far #$^#%^@^

:cookie;?
 

FoBoT

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go for #7 jjyiz28 ;)

7. Use foreign phrases: French is good, but Latin is the lingua franca of flaming. You should use the words "ad hominem" at least three times per article. Other favorite Latin phrases are "ad nauseum," "vini, vidi, vici," and "fetuccini alfredo."
 
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Originally posted by: jjyiz28
::yawn::

took u awhile to type that up eh??
i guess we just agree to disagree.

BAN TETSUO!!! hHAHHAHAHAHha. you by far #$^#%^@^

The most time was spent trying to summarize all that crap you spewed in just a line or two. Remember, this forum is predominately English - perhaps you should learn the language.

- M4H
 

erikistired

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: jjyiz28
::yawn::

took u awhile to type that up eh??
i guess we just agree to disagree.

BAN TETSUO!!! hHAHHAHAHAHha. you by far #$^#%^@^

The most time was spent trying to summarize all that crap you spewed in just a line or two. Remember, this forum is predominately English - perhaps you should learn the language.

- M4H

a couple of business courses might not hurt either. perhaps some history of the CPU lectures.