We need faster cops

[madoka]

This attack happened two weeks ago near a police substation. The police have not caught a single assailant yet, so the public is encouraged to help identify them.

http://www.ky3.com/news/local/raw-v...ple-in-downtown-springfield/21048998_27886102

 

[Raizinman]

Is this really news? I can turn on the TV and see similar news for virtually every city. Faster cops? If you were a cop, sitting in Dunkin Donuts eating lunch, and heard on your police radio about a gang of youths; would you leave your donuts to go assist or just sort of ignore and slowly eat your donuts? Someone else will respond or the gang will go away after enough time. We don't need another Michael Brown incident.

 

[The Merg]

I'm a little confused. What does this have to do with cops needing to be faster? Reading the story, it doesn't sound as if the police were called until after the assault took place.

As for the cops sitting around and wanting to finish their lunch, considering the talk here that the cops like to have any reason to beat people, wouldn't this be the prime opportunity to go have some fun? How would this be anything like a Michael Brown incident?

- Merg

 

[SpatiallyAware]

The moral here is that no matter how close the cops are, they can't stop a group of thugs from brutally attacking you.


The biggest issue I see is that the young man and his friend were not more situationally aware.

They should have never turned their backs on these thugs.

One of them should have had hand on firearm, facing them, until the moment they felt their life may be in danger.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

I'm a little confused. What does this have to do with cops needing to be faster? Reading the story, it doesn't sound as if the police were called until after the assault took place.

As for the cops sitting around and wanting to finish their lunch, considering the talk here that the cops like to have any reason to beat people, wouldn't this be the prime opportunity to go have some fun? How would this be anything like a Michael Brown incident?

- Merg

It's sarcasm.

The point is no matter how close the cops are, a group of violent thugs will still brutally attack you.

 

[bshole]

It's sarcasm.

The point is no matter how close the cops are, a group of violent thugs will still brutally attack you.

Another point is that no matter how many guns you have on you, you will die someday. The thing that matters is how you live your life. Do you want to spend your life as a friendless paranoid hateful bastard always armed to teeth, always ready to kill on a moment's notice and always on the lookout for black people OR do you want to live like a normal sane person?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Sane people move to the suburbs to get away from such problems.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Another point is that no matter how many guns you have on you, you will die someday. The thing that matters is how you live your life. Do you want to spend your life as a friendless paranoid hateful bastard always armed to teeth, always ready to kill on a moment's notice and always on the lookout for black people OR do you want to live like a normal sane person?

What do you consider armed to the teeth? Is a pocket gun tucked into a waistband which doesn't affect any activity or part of your life considered armed to the teeth?


Shoot, if we're going to talk about dying, just stop wearing your seatbelt and refuse obamacare. You're going to die anyway, why bother with it?

I mean why not just cancel insurance on the house too? It's going to fall apart eventually anyway.

Same with the car. It won't last forever, cancel insurance.



I don't understand why you racists continue to associate violence with "black people". You really should watch what you say, you might offend someone.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Sane people move to the suburbs to get away from such problems.

This stuff happens in the suburbs as well.

In my city the poor and lazy are given cards to ride the transit system for free. They're known to ride from the urban areas out where the wealthier people live in order to commit their robberies and home invasions.

I happen to live in area where if a group of the thugs in this video were walking down the street they would be asked what they're up to. Most of my neighbors are armed and many conceal carry. As a result I live in one of the lowest crime areas of the country.

 

[shortylickens]

The reason the cops were useless is BECAUSE it happened next to a station.
No one expects any trouble there. Cops dont normally patrol those roads. They drive past them once when heading out on duty, and once when coming back.

Conversely, fire trucks dont patrol, so living next a fire station is about as safe as a person can be.

 

[shortylickens]

Another point is that no matter how many guns you have on you, you will die someday. The thing that matters is how you live your life. Do you want to spend your life as a friendless paranoid hateful bastard always armed to teeth, always ready to kill on a moment's notice and always on the lookout for black people OR do you want to live like a normal sane person?

Thats the most ridiculous thing I've read on Anandtech not coming from a Moonbeam post.

 

[alcoholbob]

New definition of sane = be oblivious

 

[Nebor]

The reason the cops were useless is BECAUSE it happened next to a station.
No one expects any trouble there. Cops dont normally patrol those roads. They drive past them once when heading out on duty, and once when coming back.

Conversely, fire trucks dont patrol, so living next a fire station is about as safe as a person can be.

Wrong.

 

[highland145]

Another point is that no matter how many guns you have on you, you will die someday. The thing that matters is how you live your life. Do you want to spend your life as a friendless paranoid hateful bastard always armed to teeth, always ready to kill on a moment's notice and always on the lookout for black people OR do you want to live like a normal sane person?

I think it's pretty simple. Unless you live in a fucked up state that doesn't allow CWP, then any guy that isn't ready to protect his SO/family should give up the man card. You couldn't pay me to wander around MO without something.

As much as some ride spidey, I bet that wasn't him and I'd pay to get the vics opinion about CWPs, before and after.

 

[RandomWords]

The thing that matters is how you live your life. Do you want to spend your life as a friendless paranoid hateful bastard always armed to teeth, always ready to kill on a moment's notice and always on the lookout for black people OR do you want to live like a normal sane person? __________________

Being afraid/paranoid and being prepared are two different things. SpatiallyAware was saying be prepared. You wouldn't say keeping a fire extinguisher around and up to code was being overly paranoid and always scared... would you?

 

[Newell Steamer]

Looks like you needs superheroes,.. or angels,.. or cyborgs. Something other than human beings.

I can't figure out where these high expectations of cops is coming from;
- super speed
- great aim to shoot a gun out of someone's hand
- invulnerability
- xray vision

Guys, these things are in comic books and movies,.. not real life.

 

[Darwin333]

This attack happened two weeks ago near a police substation. The police have not caught a single assailant yet, so the public is encouraged to help identify them.

http://www.ky3.com/news/local/raw-v...ple-in-downtown-springfield/21048998_27886102

In almost every single incident cops are reactionary. They do not prevent crime, they respond to it. If someone came into your home intent on killing you and you didn't have the ability to stop them the cops would show up in time to draw a chalk outline around you, its just the way it is. I don't see a way to change that either which is why I don't depend them to be my personal "front line" of my personal safety. If you can last 5+ minutes with minimal harm to you or your property then the cops can take over, if you can't then its going to suck to be you.

 

[Darwin333]

Looks like you needs superheroes,.. or angels,.. or cyborgs. Something other than human beings.

I can't figure out where these high expectations of cops is coming from;
- super speed
- great aim to shoot a gun out of someone's hand
- invulnerability
- xray vision

Guys, these things are in comic books and movies,.. not real life.

I'd be happy if they could learn to shoot at least as good as I can and I'm not some great sharpshooter. That and getting rid of that "blue line" bullshit in which good cops protect criminally bad cops are at the top of my wish list.

 

[Darwin333]

Most commercial roofing requires using a torch on some (or all) of the roof application and since their are usually combustible materials around we do what's called "fire watches". Lets apply what you just said to that:

Another point is that no matter how many fire extinguishers you have on you, you will have a fire someday. The thing that matters is how you live your life. Do you want to spend your day as a friendless paranoid hateful bastard always armed with a fire extinguisher, always ready to put out a fire on a moment's notice and always on the lookout for fire OR do you want to live like a normal sane person?

We are one of the largest commercial contractors in the country and to date we have had exactly TWO fires. When you compare this to the amount of times we have used torches the odds are absurdly small that we will have a fire. We instituted fire watches long before OSHA required them but today we are required by the Federal Government to have someone on site whose sole job is to hold a fire extinguisher and look for fire during all torch work and for at least 3 hours afterwards.

Every once in a while someone would call in sick and we needed to get shit done for various reasons so I would go out on the site and be the asshole that just stood around watching. Most of those days, in the morning while dressing, I put my holster and gun on just like most other days and went about my business.

So on one hand it took me 15 seconds to be prepared to protect myself should the need arise and the other it took me all day and then some, so OSHA must be WAY more paranoid than anyone carrying a gun, right?

 

[Anarchist420]

If there are any crimes legislated without victims, then cops will go after those first because they get the revenue and seized property from it and because there is less risk to them involved.

Also, it would help if police depts' instituted a required min IQ of 110 and lifted the IQ ceiling from 125 to 150 for cops on the street (and police chief replaced with a police executive board of 3 members where the IQ ceiling is kept at 125). Those with higher IQ will be less moralistic and more independent. Independently minded cops will have the self control to turn in domineering colleagues or at least not protect them. Basically, we have too many STJ cops and not enough STP cops. STPs have higher fluid reasoning and are democratic. STJs can only apply what they already know and just hope that it works. When peoples' lives are on the line, I think seeking precision to minimize risk while observing the present moment are a lot more useful than comparing present lapses in sequence to past experiences. There should be an 3 member executive council of police, and they can all be STJs which means they will fight each other so that the STPs can prove themselves heroes. The STP street cops can then trick or charm the board into not firing them and into giving them raises.

 

[bshole]

Being afraid/paranoid and being prepared are two different things. SpatiallyAware was saying be prepared. You wouldn't say keeping a fire extinguisher around and up to code was being overly paranoid and always scared... would you?

Well I don't tote a fucking fire extinguisher around with me where ever I go. I couldn't imagine the hassle of dragging a gun around with me 24/7. I refuse to live my life like that. The depths of paranoia that someone must suffer to feel unsafe without a gun wherever they go are unfathomable.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Ok let me get this straight - you're comparing tucking a .5lb 1" thick little chunk of plastic and metal into a waistband or pocket with carrying a fire extinguisher??

At least try to be a little more transparent with your modern progressive logic. This is hilarious.


And this is going to really throw you for a loop, I keep a fire extinguisher in a couple of our vehicles. Oh and fix a flat or a spare tire. On long trips I actually bring some extra water and some snacks. But I'm just a paranoid bastard so none of that is going to make any sense to you.

I really think mentalities like yours are a byproduct of feeding off the government teat and handout trains for so long. You are so comfortable with someone more prepared swooping in to take care of business for you that you literally can't wrap your mind around the concept of taking care of yourself.

 

[bshole]

Ok let me get this straight - you're comparing tucking a .5lb 1" thick little chunk of plastic and metal into a waistband or pocket with carrying a fire extinguisher??

At least try to be a little more transparent with your modern progressive logic. This is hilarious.


And this is going to really throw you for a loop, I keep a fire extinguisher in a couple of our vehicles. Oh and fix a flat or a spare tire. On long trips I actually bring some extra water and some snacks. But I'm just a paranoid bastard so none of that is going to make any sense to you.

I really think mentalities like yours are a byproduct of feeding off the government teat and handout trains for so long. You are so comfortable with someone more prepared swooping in to take care of business for you that you literally can't wrap your mind around the concept of taking care of yourself.

I figure if some thugs accost me, I will take the gun from them and pistol whip their asses but good. Thats the way I roll. I suppose it could go the other way and they pop a cap in my ass, but that is a "risk" I am willing to take. I am betting with my VERY life that I can take care of myself with nothing other than my own body. In other words, I am more heroically courageous than yourself. I don't understand your need to brag about your cowardice. Do you think advertising your chicken-shittiness impresses anybody?

 

[highland145]

I figure if some thugs accost me, I will take the gun from them and pistol whip their asses but good. Thats the way I roll. I suppose it could go the other way and they pop a cap in my ass, but that is a "risk" I am willing to take. I am betting with my VERY life that I can take care of myself with nothing other than my own body. In other words, I am more heroically courageous than yourself. I don't understand your need to brag about your cowardice. Do you think advertising your chicken-shittiness impresses anybody?

Whoa...so many gifs, so little time...

 

[SpatiallyAware]

I figure if some thugs accost me, I will take the gun from them and pistol whip their asses but good. Thats the way I roll. I suppose it could go the other way and they pop a cap in my ass, but that is a "risk" I am willing to take. I am betting with my VERY life that I can take care of myself with nothing other than my own body. In other words, I am more heroically courageous than yourself. I don't understand your need to brag about your cowardice. Do you think advertising your chicken-shittiness impresses anybody?