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We MUST take down the Statue of Liberty!!

HeroOfPellinor

HeroOfPellinor

Lifer
Sitting off the coast of New York city is an effigy of the ROMAN GODDESS LIBERTAS!!!! What we are telling the WORLD is that we believe in and WORSHIP the ROMAN PANTHEON and that it is the only thing by which we base our laws! And it's in a public place. Workers should be forced to move it to a private viewing area or just plain dismantle it.

So why aren't more athiests up in a tizzy over the Statue of Liberty?
 
We should never deface a gift from the French; we should treasure it and accept is a token of their appreciation. As the old adage goes, never look a gift-horse in the mouth.
 
Wow, It just hit me....set it up downtown Baghdad. We replace a statue of a brutal dictator with the uber-symbol of freedom. Would we have to get a U.S. resolution to unilaterally give the French gift away, though?
 
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Wow, It just hit me....set it up downtown Baghdad. We replace a statue of a brutal dictator with the uber-symbol of freedom. Would we have to get a U.S. resolution to unilaterally give the French gift away, though?
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LOL! I also vote to put the 10 Commandments monument there too! I dont think anybody will have a problem with that.

 
Originally posted by: shuan24
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Wow, It just hit me....set it up downtown Baghdad. We replace a statue of a brutal dictator with the uber-symbol of freedom. Would we have to get a U.S. resolution to unilaterally give the French gift away, though?
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LOL! I also vote to put the 10 Commandments monument there too! I dont think anybody will have a problem with that.
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ea-sy....baby steps 🙂

 
I don't think anyone worships Liberta or any of the Roman gods, but than I could be wrong. 😉

The statue of liberty is a symbol of America and her freedom, the ten commandments is a religious symbol. If you can't see the difference, than maybe you should move to another country. In the constitution it clearly states theres should be a seperation between church and state. Putting the ten commandments in public display is clearly a promotion of religion. It's one of those things seperates us from a theorcracy like Iran.
 
Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
I don't think anyone worships Liberta or any of the Roman gods, but than I could be wrong. 😉

The statue of liberty is a symbol of America and her freedom, the ten commandments is a religious symbol. If you can't see the difference, than maybe you should move to another country. In the constitution it clearly states theres should be a seperation between church and state. Putting the ten commandments in public display is clearly a promotion of religion. It's one of those things seperates us from a theorcracy like Iran.
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...so those very same freedoms you proclaim are not extended to him, given that "he can't see the difference?" Why, then, did you suggest that he leave the country?

 
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
I don't think anyone worships Liberta or any of the Roman gods, but than I could be wrong. 😉

The statue of liberty is a symbol of America and her freedom, the ten commandments is a religious symbol. If you can't see the difference, than maybe you should move to another country. In the constitution it clearly states theres should be a seperation between church and state. Putting the ten commandments in public display is clearly a promotion of religion. It's one of those things seperates us from a theorcracy like Iran.
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...so those very same freedoms you proclaim are not extended to him, given that "he can't see the difference?" Why, then, did you suggest that he leave the country?
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I like you John Galt, your forum posts are very opioniated and educated.

Now....too bad they're different from mine.

Off with your head!

 
You'd actually have a point if it were located in, or more realistically on top of, a government institution.

Oh and then there's the fact that it was a gift from another sovereign nation, not some 2 year old unnescessary addition put there by a judge who obviously doesn't give a damn about the law.



thanks for playing....
 
Originally posted by: shuan24
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
I don't think anyone worships Liberta or any of the Roman gods, but than I could be wrong. 😉

The statue of liberty is a symbol of America and her freedom, the ten commandments is a religious symbol. If you can't see the difference, than maybe you should move to another country. In the constitution it clearly states theres should be a seperation between church and state. Putting the ten commandments in public display is clearly a promotion of religion. It's one of those things seperates us from a theorcracy like Iran.
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...so those very same freedoms you proclaim are not extended to him, given that "he can't see the difference?" Why, then, did you suggest that he leave the country?
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I like you John Galt, your forum posts are very opioniated and educated.

Now....too bad they're different from mine.

Off with your head!
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Back at you, sir. I welcome opinions from the other side, unlike many; and you, like me, use a certain level of tact when expressing yours. That is all civilized people ask for. That said, however, as soon as you mention animal sex or use "moron...idiot...f*uck a cow," all deals are off...as well as your head 🙂

 
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
I don't think anyone worships Liberta or any of the Roman gods, but than I could be wrong. 😉

The statue of liberty is a symbol of America and her freedom, the ten commandments is a religious symbol. If you can't see the difference, than maybe you should move to another country. In the constitution it clearly states theres should be a seperation between church and state. Putting the ten commandments in public display is clearly a promotion of religion. It's one of those things seperates us from a theorcracy like Iran.
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...so those very same freedoms you proclaim are not extended to him, given that "he can't see the difference?" Why, then, did you suggest that he leave the country?
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I merely suggested that he move to another country if he believe that the church and state should be one. That's all 😉.
But feel free to twist my words anyway you want.
 
Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
I don't think anyone worships Liberta or any of the Roman gods, but than I could be wrong. 😉

The statue of liberty is a symbol of America and her freedom, the ten commandments is a religious symbol. If you can't see the difference, than maybe you should move to another country. In the constitution it clearly states theres should be a seperation between church and state. Putting the ten commandments in public display is clearly a promotion of religion. It's one of those things seperates us from a theorcracy like Iran.
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...so those very same freedoms you proclaim are not extended to him, given that "he can't see the difference?" Why, then, did you suggest that he leave the country?
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I merely suggested that he move to another country if he believe that the church and state should be one. That's all 😉
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I assume you do not believe they should be as one, so are you further implying that anyone who believes the contrary should also leave this country? I read "suggested....if he believe...leave."

 
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
I don't think anyone worships Liberta or any of the Roman gods, but than I could be wrong. 😉

The statue of liberty is a symbol of America and her freedom, the ten commandments is a religious symbol. If you can't see the difference, than maybe you should move to another country. In the constitution it clearly states theres should be a seperation between church and state. Putting the ten commandments in public display is clearly a promotion of religion. It's one of those things seperates us from a theorcracy like Iran.
Click to expand...

...so those very same freedoms you proclaim are not extended to him, given that "he can't see the difference?" Why, then, did you suggest that he leave the country?
Click to expand...

I merely suggested that he move to another country if he believe that the church and state should be one. That's all 😉
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I assume you do not believe they should be as one, so are you further implying that anyone who believes the contrary should also leave this country? I read "suggested....if he believe...leave."
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wow...

Way to twist words, I didn't say.

What I really implied: " Feel free to leave the country if you don't believed in a seperation between church and state. We have a democracy not a theorcracy for a reason."

I'd like to see how you would twist this. 😉

Continuing on the subject, I have absolutely no problems with Judge Moore having the ten commandments in his office or at the church. But
to put on public display on state property is asking for trouble.
 
Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
I don't think anyone worships Liberta or any of the Roman gods, but than I could be wrong. 😉

The statue of liberty is a symbol of America and her freedom, the ten commandments is a religious symbol. If you can't see the difference, than maybe you should move to another country. In the constitution it clearly states theres should be a seperation between church and state. Putting the ten commandments in public display is clearly a promotion of religion. It's one of those things seperates us from a theorcracy like Iran.
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Is that the criteria for governmental prosecution? Somebody must be worshipping that religeon? You want to bet me $5,000 that, with the power of the Internet, I can't find at least one person in America who claims to worship Roman gods?

The separation of church and state is intact even though a religeous icon is in a public place. What THIS is is the persecution of a religeon for no reason just because the people who have something against it happen to be the ones with the shrillest voice.
 
I don't see the Statue of Liberty telling us to only honer her as our only God and that we can't use her name in vain. Next.........
 
Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
I don't think anyone worships Liberta or any of the Roman gods, but than I could be wrong. 😉

The statue of liberty is a symbol of America and her freedom, the ten commandments is a religious symbol. If you can't see the difference, than maybe you should move to another country. In the constitution it clearly states theres should be a seperation between church and state. Putting the ten commandments in public display is clearly a promotion of religion. It's one of those things seperates us from a theorcracy like Iran.
Click to expand...

...so those very same freedoms you proclaim are not extended to him, given that "he can't see the difference?" Why, then, did you suggest that he leave the country?
Click to expand...

I merely suggested that he move to another country if he believe that the church and state should be one. That's all 😉.
But feel free to twist my words anyway you want.
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Damn, you're ignorant. No offense, cause alot of people are.

A Christian state could never exist. Christianity is BASED on the fact that all men are free to choose to become Christians or not. That's why God allowed Adam and Eve to fall. He wants you to CHOOSE to be a Christian. Forcing people to be Christians goes against God's Will. The second you enforce Christianity you have ceased to be Christian. A state founded to give Christianity a place to flourish, however, would be any state where people are free. That's America.

But you'd know that if you cracked a book once in a while.

A statue of the Ten Commandments isn't forcing Christianity on people. It doesn't make America like Iran. You're not going to have your hand chopped off for having impure thoughts. It's a symbolic acknowledgement that our rules and laws were based on the expressly Christian ideal of freedom and equality. If you recall, no other nation had this kind of freedom UNTIL America. Even England was ruled by a monarchy at the time which DID force religeon on its people.
 
Christianity is BASED on the fact that all men are free to choose to become Christians or not.
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Try and tell all these born again Christians who seem to think that their way is the only way to worship:disgust::evil: All other methods are wrong. They can not look in the mirror I guess.
 
Originally posted by: Piano Man
I don't see the Statue of Liberty telling us to only honer her as our only God and that we can't use her name in vain. Next.........
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I don't see the Statue of The Ten Commandments telling us to only honer it as our only God and that we can't use its name in vain. Next.........

Check and mate.
 
Originally posted by: jahawkin
I think this is the first time I've ever seen someone confuse Roman mythology with religion. Way to go!!
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Are you seriously implying that people didn't believe in and worship Roman gods? :Q

Nice try tho.
 
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Christianity is BASED on the fact that all men are free to choose to become Christians or not.
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Try and tell all these born again Christians who seem to think that their way is the only way to worship:disgust::evil: All other methods are wrong. They can not look in the mirror I guess.
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Of course they believe their way is the only way. No religeon thinks other religeons are the way.

HOWEVER, these Christians haven't locked you in a basement till you believe what they do and they also haven't tried to pass any laws forcing you to behave as a Christian.

Comprehend the difference between thinking you're right and also thinking people should be free?
 
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
I don't think anyone worships Liberta or any of the Roman gods, but than I could be wrong. 😉

The statue of liberty is a symbol of America and her freedom, the ten commandments is a religious symbol. If you can't see the difference, than maybe you should move to another country. In the constitution it clearly states theres should be a seperation between church and state. Putting the ten commandments in public display is clearly a promotion of religion. It's one of those things seperates us from a theorcracy like Iran.
Click to expand...

...so those very same freedoms you proclaim are not extended to him, given that "he can't see the difference?" Why, then, did you suggest that he leave the country?
Click to expand...

I merely suggested that he move to another country if he believe that the church and state should be one. That's all 😉.
But feel free to twist my words anyway you want.
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Damn, you're ignorant. No offense, cause alot of people are.

A Christian state could never exist. Christianity is BASED on the fact that all men are free to choose to become Christians or not. That's why God allowed Adam and Eve to fall. He wants you to CHOOSE to be a Christian. Forcing people to be Christians goes against God's Will. The second you enforce Christianity you have ceased to be Christian. A state founded to give Christianity a place to flourish, however, would be any state where people are free. That's America.

But you'd know that if you cracked a book once in a while.

A statue of the Ten Commandments isn't forcing Christianity on people. It doesn't make America like Iran. You're not going to have your hand chopped off for having impure thoughts. It's a symbolic acknowledgement that our rules and laws were based on the expressly Christian ideal of freedom and equality. If you recall, no other nation had this kind of freedom UNTIL America. Even England was ruled by a monarchy at the time which DID force religeon on its people.
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Don't read history, I'm sure the Founding Fathers would disagree.
 
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