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"We ID anyone who looks younger than 27"

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Jerboy

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Thats a common badge worn by gas department store clerks and also a sticker on many gas stations. One thing I don't understand is why they come up with the magical # 27. It doesn't make any sense to me.
 
Because some minors look older than others? So they card everyone that looks 27 and under so that they can get the ones who look older as well.
 


<< Because some minors look older than others? So they card everyone that looks 27 and under so that they can get the ones who look older as well. >>



Make sense, but WHY TWENTY SEVEN rather than lets say 21(the legal age) 25 or 30? 27 is such an odd number.
 
I don't think 27 is a magical number. In my state (Nebraska) the signs all say "we card under who looks younger than 30". Pulse8 is correct in the reason for using a higher number than 21. However I think various states just picked a number that sounded good to them.
 
The number itself doesn't have a rhyme or reason. There's no scientific evidence or anything, if that's what you're looking for. I'm sure it's a number picked by the establishment.
 
Actually, I think there is a federal law that compells anyone who sells cigarettes to card anybody who doesn't look 27. I remember thinking how rediculous this is because if you sell cigs to someone who is 21 and looks 21 and don't card them, you just broke the law.

That stupid law doesn't even apply to alcohol sales.
 


<< Thats a common badge worn by gas department store clerks and also a sticker on many gas stations. One thing I don't understand is why they come up with the magical # 27. It doesn't make any sense to me. >>



They picked that number just to annoy you, Jerboy. That's so they have reason to card you until you're 45 with two kids and a mortgage.
 
There used to be a loophole in Texas law, that stated that you could not knowingly sell liquor or beer to a minor. So, by definition, if you did not check id, you did not break the law. I actually got out of a fine because of that loophole. Otherwise I would have been fined $500......loophole has now been closed. And what the hell does a 27 or 30 year old look like? I am 33 and still get carded....for cigs and the age for them is 18.
 


<< There used to be a loophole in Texas law, that stated that you could not knowingly sell liquor or beer to a minor. So, by definition, if you did not check id, you did not break the law. I actually got out of a fine because of that loophole. Otherwise I would have been fined $500......loophole has now been closed. And what the hell does a 27 or 30 year old look like? I am 33 and still get carded....for cigs and the age for them is 18. >>

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Exactly my point.

"anyone who looks 27" is way too subjective and depends on the observer.


a store chain called Plaid Pantry have scanner that scans the barcode on back of a driver's license and the cash register must approve the barcode before licqour purchase can be made
 
Here in my area of MA they've started carding anybody who appears to be under 40 when they're buying tobbaco or alcohol because the fines for serving minors are so high here. Dashed to the liquor store on New Year's eve afternoon, jeans,tee-shirt, leather jacket, oakley's and was stunned to get carded.. lol, I asked the dude how much I needed to
tip him
 
My wife and I went to a liquor store to get her brother a christmas present......a very rare single malt whisky - $56.
When we get to the register, she hands it to me as I am paying.
The cashier (who looks barely 18 himself) asks for ID, so I get out my license (I am 29) and he looks it over.
He then asks for my wife's ID. (she is 30)
Now she does not have anything with her as she left her bag in the car. No ID no liquor.
She explains that she is not buying it, I am.......we need to see both your IDs, its the law.
So I have to run all the way back to car and get her bag so we can buy this whisky.

Now I have 2 issues here:
1. Since when do you need to ID both people? What if a mother went in with her 15 year old daughter? She coudln't buy from them?
2. If we were underage drinkers....woudl we be buying a $56 bottle of whisky? Whatever happened to common sense?

If this stuff was any easier to find I'd have told him where to stick his whisky.
 
That is so if you look young and they card you, and you are 25, they can say "well we get to card anyone under 27". It is just a random number picked by a lawmaker to give places a reason to card anyone who looks remotely young. Sometimes I think you guys way over analyze the simple stuff 😛
 
Sounds like you were dealing with an idiot. You're the one who was buying it, it shouldn't matter. Don't think there is a law anyway.

What if you brought in a baby, does the baby need ID too for you to buy booze?


--An opinion from another 29-yearold 😀





<< My wife and I went to a liquor store to get her brother a christmas present......a very rare single malt whisky - $56.
When we get to the register, she hands it to me as I am paying.
The cashier (who looks barely 18 himself) asks for ID, so I get out my license (I am 29) and he looks it over.
He then asks for my wife's ID. (she is 30)
Now she does not have anything with her as she left her bag in the car. No ID no liquor.
She explains that she is not buying it, I am.......we need to see both your IDs, its the law.
So I have to run all the way back to car and get her bag so we can buy this whisky.

Now I have 2 issues here:
1. Since when do you need to ID both people? What if a mother went in with her 15 year old daughter? She coudln't buy from them?
2. If we were underage drinkers....woudl we be buying a $56 bottle of whisky? Whatever happened to common sense?

If this stuff was any easier to find I'd have told him where to stick his whisky. >>

 
Murpheeee - Texas law states that you cannot sell to a minor....to that fact there are many legal age people buying for minors. Most of the convenience stores send employees to a state sponsored class for selling beer and wine, in that class you are told that if a car full of people pull up to the store and only one comes in to buy beer, you must tell the customer that all of the passengers must come in and get id'd, if anyone of them is under age, you cannot sell them alcohol, unless of course the person buying is there obviously their father, tough judgement call, but you still have the right to refuse the sale, because the person selling is responsible for the jail time and fine if they do not follow the law. Repeated offenses and the store could be fined and license to sell pulled.
 
I carded a 56 year old man at a beer garden at a concert and he gave me this huge hug and said I "made his year" 😀
 


<< Murpheeee - Texas law states that you cannot sell to a minor....to that fact there are many legal age people buying for minors. Most of the convenience stores send employees to a state sponsored class for selling beer and wine, in that class you are told that if a car full of people pull up to the store and only one comes in to buy beer, you must tell the customer that all of the passengers must come in and get id'd, if anyone of them is under age, you cannot sell them alcohol, unless of course the person buying is there obviously their father, tough judgement call, but you still have the right to refuse the sale, because the person selling is responsible for the jail time and fine if they do not follow the law. Repeated offenses and the store could be fined and license to sell pulled. >>



Um, I still don't see why you can't sell it to the 21 year old guy, with 18 year old friends? He is 21, its his responsibility.
 


<< My wife and I went to a liquor store to get her brother a christmas present......a very rare single malt whisky - $56.
When we get to the register, she hands it to me as I am paying.
The cashier (who looks barely 18 himself) asks for ID, so I get out my license (I am 29) and he looks it over.
He then asks for my wife's ID. (she is 30)
Now she does not have anything with her as she left her bag in the car. No ID no liquor.
She explains that she is not buying it, I am.......we need to see both your IDs, its the law.
So I have to run all the way back to car and get her bag so we can buy this whisky.

Now I have 2 issues here:
1. Since when do you need to ID both people? What if a mother went in with her 15 year old daughter? She coudln't buy from them?
2. If we were underage drinkers....woudl we be buying a $56 bottle of whisky? Whatever happened to common sense?

If this stuff was any easier to find I'd have told him where to stick his whisky. >>



When I worked at a restaurant I had to run to the local place to pickup a bottle of cooking wine. I went to the counter still in full uniform of the kitchen, the
guy looked at me, at 25 years old, and asked me to fill out an entire form about my age, and never asked me for my license first, very, very stupid.
 
Murpheeee - Texas law states that you cannot sell to a minor....to that fact there are many legal age people buying for minors. Most of the convenience stores send employees to a state sponsored class for selling beer and wine, in that class you are told that if a car full of people pull up to the store and only one comes in to buy beer, you must tell the customer that all of the passengers must come in and get id'd, if anyone of them is under age, you cannot sell them alcohol, unless of course the person buying is there obviously their father, tough judgement call, but you still have the right to refuse the sale, because the person selling is responsible for the jail time and fine if they do not follow the law. Repeated offenses and the store could be fined and license to sell pulled.

Hmm.. its 18 eveywhere but the states. This sounds pretty dumb. If I buy liquor I take on the responsibility not you. Whatever, I have no problems I only shop in my cousins liquor store anyway =)
 
It was developed by a committee. Nuff said.

Frankly, if anyone wants to kill themselves to look cool, that's up to them, just so long as they don't suck money out of the healthcare system to help with their smoking-caused health problems.
 
This sounds to me like "better be safe then sorry" BS! A license should be enough. Next they will not sell liquor to anyone who pulls up in a car because they have intent to consume alchole while operating a veichle. Its nonesense!
 


<< Sounds like you were dealing with an idiot. You're the one who was buying it, it shouldn't matter. Don't think there is a law anyway.

What if you brought in a baby, does the baby need ID too for you to buy booze?


--An opinion from another 29-yearold 😀


 >>



In some states it is a law requiring a whole group to be ID'ed. In Louisiana, anyone who contributes to a(n) alcohol/tobacco purchase must show proof of age.

For all of you who whine about showing an ID....please STFU and don't buy anything requiring ID. Everyone, especially people who drive, should carry their ID's at all times. It is not an inconvenience to pull your license out of your wallet.

I have worked at a grocery store for almost 8 years. I do not feel sorry for anyone who becomes angry when I ID them. My philosophy is that if you don't like it, go to another store.
 
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