We have a deal

[JSt0rm]

-Guaranteed Vote in the Senate on Obamacare repeal.- will never pass
-Guaranteed Vote in the Senate on Planned Parenthood.- will never pass

GOP got a little which is a good thing, their religous base won't be happy though.

Its the splitting of the repub party. They doomed themselves years ago pushing for the religious base to mobilize. Now they are on a short chain unable to do the real stuff of cutting government down without appeasing the base with social dogma.

 

[manlymatt83]

What a unique turn of events. We're going to continue pissing away trillions of dollars that we don't have. Who could have seen that coming?

This

 

[Jaskalas]

Here's one more way to look at this.

US Debt Jumped $54 Billion in Week Preceding Deal to Cut $38 Billion...

In other words, if you had this budget battle EACH WEEK, and WON $38 Billion in cuts EACH WEEK, you'd still find this country bankrupt and in financial ruin.

 

[wuliheron]

Here's one more way to look at this.

US Debt Jumped $54 Billion in Week Preceding Deal to Cut $38 Billion...

In other words, if you had this budget battle EACH WEEK, and WON $38 Billion in cuts EACH WEEK, you'd still find this country bankrupt and in financial ruin.

Like I said, this was just the trash talk before the real fight begins. The audience demands it. In this fight the audience will get slammed with higher taxes like so many folding chairs thrown at a wrestling match. Best to make sure they're prepared ahead of time.

 

[werepossum]

Here's one more way to look at this.

US Debt Jumped $54 Billion in Week Preceding Deal to Cut $38 Billion...

In other words, if you had this budget battle EACH WEEK, and WON $38 Billion in cuts EACH WEEK, you'd still find this country bankrupt and in financial ruin.

And these are the cuts Democrats call extreme, radical, economy crushing.

It's like being on fire and having one paramedic recommend washing your hands while the other recommends a nice soothing gasoline bath . . .

 

[the DRIZZLE]

It's pretty disheartening seeing how politically difficult it was to make trivial cuts. It's even worse when you consider they weren't even going after major constituencies this round.

 

[wuliheron]

It's pretty disheartening seeing how politically difficult it was to make trivial cuts. It's even worse when you consider they weren't even going after major constituencies this round.

If you want something more efficient then democracy then I can introduce you to some fascists I know.

 

[manimal]

It's pretty disheartening seeing how politically difficult it was to make trivial cuts. It's even worse when you consider they weren't even going after major constituencies this round.

its only trivial if your not experiencing the cut....


cuts to social programs have a direct impact into the health and lives of those that need them.

Do yo know what WIC stands for?



That food goes to needy mothers who cant afford to feed their children good healthy food. By eating healthy food that child has a better chance of pulling himself out of poverty by excelling at school.

Same thing with PP.... healthier fetus = healthier baby = healthier adult = less dependent on social services...

 

[the DRIZZLE]

its only trivial if your not experiencing the cut....


cuts to social programs have a direct impact into the health and lives of those that need them.

Do yo know what WIC stands for?



That food goes to needy mothers who cant afford to feed their children good healthy food. By eating healthy food that child has a better chance of pulling himself out of poverty by excelling at school.

Same thing with PP.... healthier fetus = healthier baby = healthier adult = less dependent on social services...

Humans survived before these programs and they can survive without them. Honestly I think there are better places to cut but every constituency has their reasons why you can't cut their programs/subsidies/tax breaks.

 

[Jaskalas]

its only trivial if your not experiencing the cut....

Weimar Republic or cuts...
Weimar Republic or cuts...
Weimar Republic or cuts...

Yeah, that has to be a really tough choice for you. How well do you think the poor will do with an ecomonic collapse? Forget recessions and depressions, you haven't seen shit compared to the next bubble to pop.

There is no alternative. You let it wind down easy, or you slam the brick wall going 100. You can have a little pain to survive tomorrow or you can live high with fake wealth today, to be killed in a train wreck tomorrow.

You won't allow this to go easy.

 

[Red Dawn]

This is just the Social Conservative Regressives using this situation to push their BS agenda. If they were really concerned about the debt they'd target the Defense Budget.

 

[theeedude]

Weimar Republic or tax hikes

 

[wuliheron]

Weimar Republic or tax hikes

Do we have a choice?

 

[ccbadd]

its only trivial if your not experiencing the cut....


cuts to social programs have a direct impact into the health and lives of those that need them.

Do yo know what WIC stands for?



That food goes to needy mothers who cant afford to feed their children good healthy food. By eating healthy food that child has a better chance of pulling himself out of poverty by excelling at school.

Same thing with PP.... healthier fetus = healthier baby = healthier adult = less dependent on social services...

Reality is it lets lazy people get food for free so they can spend the money they do have on beer and cig's. Ever been in the grocery line and watch the WIC people separate out what they are buying from what they are being given?? It's not all of them, but quite a few. The problems goes back to why single mothers stay that way... because they can't qualify for (read don't really need) the handouts if the many papa. This creates the situation that allow papa to walk away when things get tough because they are not married. Good old fractioned social engineering brought to you by the liberal idiots in this and other countries.

 

[manimal]

Reality is it lets lazy people get food for free so they can spend the money they do have on beer and cig's. Ever been in the grocery line and watch the WIC people separate out what they are buying from what they are being given?? It's not all of them, but quite a few. The problems goes back to why single mothers stay that way... because they can't qualify for (read don't really need) the handouts if the many papa. This creates the situation that allow papa to walk away when things get tough because they are not married. Good old fractioned social engineering brought to you by the liberal idiots in this and other countries.

Unless you can show me some market study or statistic your talking out of your ass...



the real reality-as the real world not your loose construct- is that times are really hard and there are more people in need of help than ever.

 

[Darwin333]

I think Obama realizes there are going to have to be spending cuts down the road, once economy is out of the woods. But it's important for him to break the GOP shutdown now to take away their leverage, so that he can shape the terms of the budget cuts down the road.

There are no "terms" when it comes to actually addressing the deficit which this bullshit lip service is most definitely not. The hard fact is that entitlements, along with .mil and damn near everything else, must be cut pretty hard AND taxes must be raised on everyone. All of our revenue currently barely covers mandatory spending, that alone should show you the scope of the problem.

 

[ccbadd]

Unless you can show me some market study or statistic your talking out of your ass...



the real reality-as the real world not your loose construct- is that times are really hard and there are more people in need of help than ever.

Keep those blinders on buddy! I don't need a study to see it for myself at the grocery store. I bet you don't believe in tough love either?? How many lazy kids are we raising now who feel entitled to everything? I don't have a study for that either, bet you don't believe that either.

You live in the world where everyone gets a trophy don't you??

 

[manimal]

Keep those blinders on buddy! I don't need a study to see it for myself at the grocery store. I bet you don't believe in tough love either?? How many lazy kids are we raising now who feel entitled to everything? I don't have a study for that either, bet you don't believe that either.

You live in the world where everyone gets a trophy don't you??

Because you saw some person buying some beer while also buying food with WIC makes you an expert on the subject?


Your no better than Stossel singling out an insane homeless guy and offering him a job. When he doesnt take it he labels all homeless as lazy...


Your comments are very ideologically driven and have little merit in the real world. I have lived in poverty and lifted ourselves out of it by our bootstraps.. We were very poor immigrants who were able to eat and get an education because of those so called programs. We now-my family-contribute to those plans and programs willingly and give over 15 percent of what we make to charity.

There will always be some who take advantage of a system. Would you throw away the truly needy because someone held you up in line because it takes FOREVER to get wic checks redeemed at stores...


I would hate to see you fall on hard times and be subjected to your own kind of hate....

 

[manlymatt83]

Unless you can show me some market study or statistic your talking out of your ass...



the real reality-as the real world not your loose construct- is that times are really hard and there are more people in need of help than ever.

Great. Get the Government out of managing that. A single entity can not possibly manage all of these issues and failures you speak of.

Give more power to private charity instead. Hell, establish more community giving. Let the friends next door decide whether or not someone is truly hurting. Not the Government.

Lower my taxes, and I'd gladly give more money to some of these non-profits where I know 95%+ of the money will go to help people.

 

[theeedude]

Humans survived before these programs and they can survive without them. Honestly I think there are better places to cut but every constituency has their reasons why you can't cut their programs/subsidies/tax breaks.

Humans will survive, just like we survived through the dark ages, but do you actually want to live in the dark ages because of that?
GOP tried to hike defense spending in this budget, and only after Democratic push-back agreed to not touch it at all. So all of the cuts are coming out on the backs of poor people who can barely scrape by as it is.

 

[Red Dawn]

Lower my taxes, and I'd gladly give more money to some of these non-profits where I know 95%+ of the money will go to the Administrators of these charities.

Fixed for accuracy

 

[Icepick]

I heard on NPR this morning that while the Republicans are proposing cuts in Medicaid and Medicare, at least Obama has the balls to propose raising taxes on the wealthy Americans. Maybe we now we can get them to pay actually pay their share to keep America great.

 

[Icepick]

Humans will survive, just like we survived through the dark ages, but do you actually want to live in the dark ages because of that?
GOP tried to hike defense spending in this budget, and only after Democratic push-back agreed to not touch it at all. So all of the cuts are coming out on the backs of poor people who can barely scrape by as it is.

How these clowns can stand up day after day and propose that the underprivileged and hard working Americans take on even more of the burden while the wealthy pay nothing additional is beyond me. So what's the latest reasoning to support this foolishness?

The Republican party is way out of touch and is definitely NOT the party with the best interests of Americans at its core.