We don't need no moderation

SickBeast

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My suggestion today is to eliminate moderation from AT.

I know, I know, you'll probably think that I'm crazy for suggesting it. The thing is, I've tried out a new site that apoppin and Dave McOwen created, and have been loving it. There is no moderation, and it's a lot of fun and gives posters way more freedom of expression, which really is in the spirit of the internet (and of America if I may).

Perhaps moderate spammers who post those "buy shoes" things and whatnot, but just leave the rest alone!

I know this will probably never happen, but I wanted to drop it in the admin's ears nonetheless. I've been posting here for a long time, and TBH I have been having a lot more fun at ABT despite the lower readership and relative quietness of the forums.
 

JJChicken

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ABT is a cool place, but TBH you need moderation when you have forums the size of AT.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: SickBeast
My suggestion today is to eliminate moderation from AT.

I know, I know, you'll probably think that I'm crazy for suggesting it. The thing is, I've tried out a new site that apoppin and Dave McOwen created, and have been loving it. There is no moderation, and it's a lot of fun and gives posters way more freedom of expression, which really is in the spirit of the internet (and of America if I may).

Perhaps moderate spammers who post those "buy shoes" things and whatnot, but just leave the rest alone!

I know this will probably never happen, but I wanted to drop it in the admin's ears nonetheless. I've been posting here for a long time, and TBH I have been having a lot more fun at ABT despite the lower readership and relative quietness of the forums.
If we did that then there'd be no reason for anybody to post at ABT;)

This place might be to rigid for some which is why sites like ABT and TFNN exist. There's something for everybody:thumbsup:
 

OCGuy

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I think you should stay over at the new forum if its so great :thumbsup:

Wait, unless you are on that forum's dime to come here and promote it...

Hmm......
 

polarbear6

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Originally posted by: OCguy
I think you should stay over at the new forum if its so great :thumbsup:

Wait, unless you are on that forum's dime to come here and promote it...

Hmm......

HELLLLL YEAAAAAAAh
i wish some one would pay me for promoting there sites


hey sick beast how much do they pay u for promoting there site ??
 

SickBeast

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Originally posted by: ganesh1
Originally posted by: OCguy
I think you should stay over at the new forum if its so great :thumbsup:

Wait, unless you are on that forum's dime to come here and promote it...

Hmm......

HELLLLL YEAAAAAAAh
i wish some one would pay me for promoting there sites


hey sick beast how much do they pay u for promoting there site ??

LOL

Nothing. :)

apoppin doesn't pay me to promote the site, but I think he's a cool guy who deserves any success that will come out of his hard work and risk taking. You can haggle with him if you want. I'll give you 5%. :Q

I've known the guy for literally years on here. We have tended to agree on things, and really I think we brought down AEG together in dramatic fashion.

I just love how the Witch Hunt victim has created one of his own to go after the Grand Champ. OCguy I hope you enjoy your GTX280 cards, and I hope that your conscience escapes any potential damage as a result of what you do. :beer:
 

SickBeast

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Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Without moderation, this place would reduce quickly into a cesspool.

You would be surprised at what freedom brings. I have yet to see bedlam at ABT.
 

Schadenfroh

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Originally posted by: SickBeast
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Without moderation, this place would reduce quickly into a cesspool.

You would be surprised at what freedom brings. I have yet to see bedlam at ABT.

This forum underwent a significant shift towards libertarianism with the arrival of the new forum policies instituted by Derek. I do not know if traffic has increased or decease since enough time has passed for these policies to take effect.

IIRC, AT experimented with no moderation during the premium account days (I believe there was a private forum that was not moderated, but you had to pay to get access, I could be wrong, but I think that is how it operated). I never purchased a premium account, so you will have to ask others how that went.
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: SickBeast
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Without moderation, this place would reduce quickly into a cesspool.

You would be surprised at what freedom brings. I have yet to see bedlam at ABT.

I am now 100% convinced that you are promoting that site here, and that is your only purpose.
 

SickBeast

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Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: SickBeast
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Without moderation, this place would reduce quickly into a cesspool.

You would be surprised at what freedom brings. I have yet to see bedlam at ABT.

I am now 100% convinced that you are promoting that site here, and that is your only purpose.
Not as convinced as I am that you are an undercover NV marketer. :beer:

You're derailing my thread BTW.
 

SickBeast

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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Originally posted by: SickBeast
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Without moderation, this place would reduce quickly into a cesspool.

You would be surprised at what freedom brings. I have yet to see bedlam at ABT.

This forum underwent a significant shift towards libertarianism with the arrival of the new forum policies instituted by Derek. I do not know if traffic has increased or decease since enough time has passed for these policies to take effect.

IIRC, AT experimented with no moderation during the premium account days (I believe there was a private forum that was not moderated, but you had to pay to get access, I could be wrong, but I think that is how it operated). I never purchased a premium account, so you will have to ask others how that went.

Well, I'm telling you, even with all the AT outcast misfits at ABT (Rollo, Wreckage, Chizow, etc.) we have not had bedlam and things have been fine. I actually like it better.
 

EagleKeeper

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Those perma-banned misfits were causing disruptions/chaos here and were provided multiple opportunities to correct their ways before getting kicked out.

They chose not to.

In those forums that they disrupted, you hear very little enthusiasm / requests for their return.

that alone should indicate something.
 

SickBeast

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I tell you what, with the unfettered ability to tell them where to go, I can deal with them fine on my own, and it can actually be an enjoyable experience. Instead of crying for the mods I can tell them to "eat it" and in a sense sometimes they have to. ;)
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: SickBeast
My suggestion today is to eliminate moderation from AT.

I know, I know, you'll probably think that I'm crazy for suggesting it...

No, son. I KNOW you're crazy for suggesting it. I was the first mod on these forums. I've watched them grow from under 20,000 to over 200,000. I've been part of a team that has chased a lot of really bad people and been part of putting a few of them in the graybar hotel.

The thing is, I've tried out a new site that apoppin and Dave McOwen created, and have been loving it. There is no moderation, and it's a lot of fun and gives posters way more freedom of expression, which really is in the spirit of the internet (and of America if I may).

Dave's a friend of mine. Ask him. He even posted my song on his site. :beer: :cool: :music:

Perhaps moderate spammers who post those "buy shoes" things and whatnot, but just leave the rest alone!

Everything is relative. Anand once told me AnandTech Forums is the largest English language computer oriented frorums in the world. Whether or not that's still true, you can find google links to posts on AT the day they're posted.

They use bots to search for keywords for their spam and to create registration lists for their spammers, and with over 200,000 members, we're a much bigger target, and we do it just to keep the place more enjoyable for you. :)

I know this will probably never happen...

Exactly. Now, can I mark that as the answer to your post and lock the thread? :laugh:
 

SickBeast

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: SickBeast
I know this will probably never happen...

Exactly. Now, can I mark that as the answer to your post and lock the thread? :laugh:
You can do whatever you want. You're the Elite Senior Moderator. The Original Elite Senior Moderator.

I find it sad that mod powers will lock this thread when my whole point was to get rid of them. :(

:brokenheart:
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: SickBeast
I know this will probably never happen. :(

*cries*

And I'm not the mod who marked your post as the answer. I'm glad another mod agrees. :)
 

SickBeast

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: SickBeast
I know this will probably never happen. :(

*cries*

And I'm not the mod who marked your post as the answer. I'm glad another mod agrees. :)

I'm not a mod, Harvey. We don't need no moderation; that was the point of this thread. ;)

I've gotta say, for the main man around here you sure don't take yourself very seriously. :)

:beer:
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: SickBeast
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: SickBeast
I know this will probably never happen. :(

*cries*

And I'm not the mod who marked your post as the answer. I'm glad another mod agrees. :)

I'm not a mod, Harvey. We don't need no moderation; that was the point of this thread. ;)

I've gotta say, for the main man around here you sure don't take yourself very seriously. :)

:beer:
When Harvey starts to take himself to seriously, there are a dozen other SENIOR Moderators that are happy /enjoy pulling the rug from under his ego.

And it has happened more than once:D

 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: SickBeast
I'm not a mod, Harvey. We don't need no moderation; that was the point of this thread. ;)

I've gotta say, for the main man around here you sure don't take yourself very seriously. :)

Thank god :thumbsup:


Originally posted by: SickBeast
Not as convinced as I am that you are an undercover NV marketer. :beer:


Hey, Harvey thinks i'm a GOP marketer, I cant catch a break :laugh:

I wish it was a ban for accusing people of things like that without proof...but alas.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: SickBeast

I'm not a mod, Harvey. We don't need no moderation; that was the point of this thread. ;)

It's Anand's forums. You'd have to take it up with him. If you're not enjoying yourself, here, you could always ask him to refund the price you paid for your membership. ;)

I've gotta say, for the main man around here you sure don't take yourself very seriously. :)

:beer:

Maybe that's why, when I do get serious about trolls like thieves in FS/T, they tend to get the message. :cool:

:beer: back at ya.
 

KeithTalent

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Originally posted by: SickBeast
I know, I know, you'll probably think that I'm crazy for suggesting it.

I thought you were crazy loooonnng before you created this thread. :beer:

KT

 

Red Dawn

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If there was no moderation here the folks at ABT wouldn't have anything to post about.