"We couldn't connect the dots". What A load of crap

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: The Green Bean
The fact was that Islam and the West had a common enemy; communism and socialism. Both Islam and the West are capitalist economies. The war on terror is nothing more than America's attempt to secure the future of Israel and get a foothold in the CARs. The main threat to American domination is no longer Russia or even China but the oil rich M.E. If the wars stop Israel goes.

It's shame we haven't come up with an alternative fuel source so the M.E. could go back to being an inconsquential third world region full of religious fanatics.

The M.E has never been an insignificant or inconsequential region of the world since Babylon and will never be. Today it has the richest influential people in the world.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Skoorb
It could take a day to read this all. However, I've read bits. Go to July 10/2001 for some spicy details. It's obvious that many, even those high up, in US intelligence were aware of an imminent attack and were trying to warn those who could issue commands to do something about it, but the very top (Bush and close advisors) were not taking the bait. Even after the events of July 10, Bush denied the right to kill Bin Laden.

Dumb mistake, or they wanted it to happen?

Although one should consider giving merit to some of the theories that Bush and cronies have benefitted from some master imperial plan from terrorism, I still like to think it was just a dumb mistake and conspiracy theories remain on the fringes as no people with credibility and the time to do so have touted an evil master plan.

 

[shadow9d9]

Pabster/nonprofjon stay far away from threads like these.. I am truly shocked.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Skoorb
It could take a day to read this all. However, I've read bits. Go to July 10/2001 for some spicy details. It's obvious that many, even those high up, in US intelligence were aware of an imminent attack and were trying to warn those who could issue commands to do something about it, but the very top (Bush and close advisors) were not taking the bait. Even after the events of July 10, Bush denied the right to kill Bin Laden.

Dumb mistake, or they wanted it to happen?

Although one should consider giving merit to some of the theories that Bush and cronies have benefitted from some master imperial plan from terrorism, I still like to think it was just a dumb mistake and conspiracy theories remain on the fringes as no people with credibility and the time to do so have touted an evil master plan.

Well, certainly there is some doubt in my mind. I cannot see what goes on in the brains of Cheney, Rumsfeld, nor Bush. But reading all of the link's Page9, I don't think it an insane conclusion to think that they wanted 9/11 to happen.

Some like to believe that Cheney is stupid. But he's not, he's a very, very smart man.

The warnings were there. Hell, after reading through them, I almost felt like I was the only one to not know about the attack before it happened.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

There were warnings of an imminent attack on the US by AQ for years. The information that was provided prior to the attack was all over the place and really didn't give much in the way of actionable intelligence or provide any specifics as to the when, where, and how.

Besides that, if anyone in here was told on Sept 10 that a group of religious nuts were going to hijack 4 commercial aircraft, fly 2 of them into the World Trade Center, 1 into the Pentagon, and another into the White House; you probably would have looked at the person telling you that cross-eyed and wondered wtf they were smoking. The sheer audacity and ambitiousness of such a plan made it nearly unbelievable in the first place.

That website plays a bit loose and fast with the facts as well and does its best to draw suspicions and connections where none really exist. It speaks repeatedly of the pipeline in Afghanistan, never stating that it was not an oil pipeline but a natural gas pipeline that was intended to route gas from fields in the Caspian Sea to Pakistan and possibly India as well. CentGas was also a consortium that involved more than just Unocal. There were firms from Russia, Indonesia, Pakistan, Korea, and Saudi Arabia, so I'm not sure how this pipeline would have provided any great benefit to the US or the neocons. Unocal withdrew from the consortium in the late 90s because the political instabilities in the region made it nearly impossible to construct that pipeline.

It's about what can be expected though. Like so many of the conspiracy theorist websites, what's left unsaid is often as important, or moreso, than what they do tell you.

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: The Green Bean
The fact was that Islam and the West had a common enemy; communism and socialism. Both Islam and the West are capitalist economies. The war on terror is nothing more than America's attempt to secure the future of Israel and get a foothold in the CARs. The main threat to American domination is no longer Russia or even China but the oil rich M.E. If the wars stop Israel goes.

It's shame we haven't come up with an alternative fuel source so the M.E. could go back to being an inconsquential third world region full of religious fanatics.

Imagine the massive economic revolution in our country if we were to cut our ties to ME oil. We do have extensive energy resources of our own.

I say we should do it or take the gloves off over there and do like Clinton suggested; "Roll back Islam" a few hundred years.

 

[wnied]

his name is actually spelt usama bin laden

u cant spell usama without USA

Ugh! L A M E