We can never understand.

AMDJunkie

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If we claim to understand things, then can we ever learn anything new? To understand is to close off learning to claim you comprehend. Comprehension is total understanding. Total understanding is knowing everything. I am quite sure I do not know everything of anything.
 

adams

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Its a good point. Life is always changing, and we must always remain open to the new realities which continue to manifest themselves. We should stay open-minded and quietly observant. :)

[Edit]By the way, you sound a bit like Krishnamurti [/Edit]
 

NikPreviousAcct

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yes, but to say that we don't understand is to understand that there are things beyond us. Therefore, in not understanding, the wisdom and humility shown shows that we do understand.

To say that we will never understand is underestimating the human mind and cutting short the ability we have as an evolving species to learn and overcome things that seem easy now but would have been an impossibility to previous genorations (who didn't understand).

A circle with no end cannot have a beginning either.



:confused:
 

AMDJunkie

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To understand anything, to comprehend anything, is to say, "I know all that I need to know." You cannot learn more about anything until you admit you don't understand or comprehend something.
 

SackOfAllTrades

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Amen, AMD, Amen.

Can't we also say that there is no real truth in this world? Besides basic mathematics, nothing is a real fact or for certain. That's why I don't like to get involved in religion or politics, people only have a narrow view in which they support. It's not worth talking about.

Humor is the best though. Can I get a hell yeah for humor?
 

bagmanblue

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How can math be certain when everything we accept we label? What is a label anyway? Who made one be one, and so forth. If we don't accept anything we can see what we don't understand, and not really care if we did.
 

bagmanblue

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But, dammit, who made one. What unanimous decision was there that there should be a one, or a two, and that two ones would equal one two?
 

bobtist

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Can't we also say that there is no real truth in this world?

Read the title of this thread again. You can't understand the world so deeply as to know that there is no real truth.
 

bagmanblue

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A circle has two ends, otherwis it wouldn't be a circle.

remember the difference between 2d and perspective.
 

SackOfAllTrades

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bobtist,

that's why i asked in the form of a question. thank you for an insight though.


bagman,

it seems like you are caught on labels and i am talking about the act of matheticmatically manipulating phyisical objects.















DOES NO ONE WANT TO GIVE A "HELL YEAH" FOR HUMOR?
 

NikPreviousAcct

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/me gives a huge-ass "HELL YEAH" for humor.

:D ;)



but.... do you understand 2d? Is 2d possible? Is 3d actually possible? Time is applied to everything that is fully conceivable by the human mind. How are 2- and 3d possible with time as a dimension?




And besides... do you really WANT to understand everything? When you understand everything, what would you do then? --who cares! You would have already figured that one out and have been bored with the idea. What then? --who cares! You would have already --oh forget it. :confused:
 

Prodigy^

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actually AMD, your post makes little sense....ok sorry if you've spilled your heart with this and such :p but look at it this way:

If I annouce that I understand how to use a computer, does that mean I can't ever learn *anything* new? No, I could learn how to play football. Also, I proclaim to understand how to use a computer - which means I'm intelligent enough to use it and obtain new knowledge about it, for instance by using Anandtech. I don't see why the term 'understand' should mean 'knowing everything', as is EVERYTHING, if you know what I mean.

BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT of course your post was meant to be philosophical, yatta yatta....nice ;)