We are Anonymous...... We are Legion.......

[CPA]

Whether it's Anonymous or not, the philosophy that all information should be free is bullshit. Why aren't they going after KFC for their original seasoning recipe or Coke for their recipe? Information is the property of the developer/designer/manufacturer, which could be a Corporation or a single person. They have no legal obligation to hand it over to someone who purchased their product.

 

[videogames101]

Whether it's Anonymous or not, the philosophy that all information should be free is bullshit. Why aren't they going after KFC for their original seasoning recipe or Coke for their recipe? Information is the property of the developer/designer/manufacturer, which could be a Corporation or a single person. They have no legal obligation to hand it over to someone who purchased their product.

They are going after whoever they want to because they can. Do you think coke relies on the legal system to keep it's recipe secret? do you think they put out a patent? lol, good joke...

 

[BladeVenom]

It's 100 million customers now.

 

[DCal430]

Anon claims this was too sophisticated for them. If they aren't capable of doing this then who is?

 

[lxskllr]

Anon claims this was too sophisticated for them. If they aren't capable of doing this then who is?

East European/Chinese organized crime.

 

[jteef]

It's not Anonymous. As the others said, they lack the structure to pull off something this sophisticated. However, their recent DDoS attack makes them convenient scapegoats for both parties. Even though Anon is pissed off at Sony, they've never been financially motivated. A group of disconnected script kids probably wouldn't even know what to do with that kind of data.

So who does that leave? I know jack shit about hacking but my best guess would be organized crime, or an inside job. It would have to be someone or a group of people who really know their stuff. Anon doesn't fit the profile.

If you didn't live in canada, i'd have you pegged as a fed with that kind of thinking.

there are thousands of examples of "sophisticated" hacks pulled off by 1-2 smart people. you don't need any sort of superfluous "structure" or resources to succeed in such things. You just need a bit of planning, a bit of time and a bit of savvy. There are plenty of people who contribute to Anonymous that "know their stuff" and they could have easily been the ones who compromised Sony. It doesn't quite fit their collective MO, but it's not entirely out of line. I don't personally think the hackers were associated with Anonymous, but that could easily be misguided altruistic thinking.

I think if it were a real "Anonymous" attack, there would be sensitive Sony corporate information held hostage in an encrypted volume(or just straight released) on all the torrent sites right now and more explicit information on how stupid Sony was in defending their network.

 

[Zstream]

The reason the hack looked sophisticated was due to social engineering. Similar to most hacks, it's not done via super technical manners. The only problem Sony has done is not encrypting the databases.

All companies can be hacked. It's the weakest chain in an organization that is generally the cause.

 

[zerocool84]

Also the claims that Sony was using an old version of Apache were false. Some guy made it up on his blog. Plus even if some rogue person that claims he's Anon and he did it, that means it was Anon. It's just how it goes when no one and everyone is Anon.

The Financial Times reports that two "veteran" members of Anonymous say some element of the organization was "likely" behind the attacks on Sony earlier this month. At least, they're saying that as much as any two people can take credit for a large, essentially unconnected group of strangers. There was an "official" Anonymous movement against Sony called "OpSony," say the veteran members, and according to them, "if you say you are Anonymous, and do something as Anonymous, then Anonymous did it."

That's the problem Sony is having with the non-organization -- members of Anonymous have both now taken credit for and denied being behind the attacks, but since Anonymous is by definition a decentralized, self-defined community, it can't really "take credit" or be held responsible for anything itself.

That said, while the Anonymous movement is hard to pin down, it is made up of a group of real people, and those people are being investigated as "one of the key targets" by US law enforcement. If and when charges are brought in this case, "Anonymous" won't be on the stand -- it's not a real organization you can arrest or subpoena. But the hackers who were reportedly acting in conjunction with the online movement likely will be.

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/05/06/anonymous-members-say-sony-attacks-were-likely-connected-to-mo/

 

[DominionSeraph]

 

[yhelothar]

It's not Anonymous. As the others said, they lack the structure to pull off something this sophisticated. However, their recent DDoS attack makes them convenient scapegoats for both parties. Even though Anon is pissed off at Sony, they've never been financially motivated. A group of disconnected script kids probably wouldn't even know what to do with that kind of data.

So who does that leave? I know jack shit about hacking but my best guess would be organized crime, or an inside job. It would have to be someone or a group of people who really know their stuff. Anon doesn't fit the profile.

I don't know, it seems like the IRC chatroom that regards themselves as anon has plenty of structure from what it looked like from the whole HB Gary thing.

 

[brainhulk]

 

[lxskllr]

I don't know, it seems like the IRC chatroom that regards themselves as anon has plenty of structure from what it looked like from the whole HB Gary thing.

Anonymous is any person that can rally troops for a given escapade. Different anon have different interests, and it could be anyone, at any given time.

 

[JTsyo]

Sounds like cyber-terrorism to me. Do something we don't like and we'll attack your network assets. If Sony does something illegal, take them to court. If you just don't like their practices, then start a campaign to stop people from buying their products. If the majority doesn't mind want Sony is doing, then you don't have the right to take matters into your own hands.

 

[Wyndru]

 

[NoStateofMind]

lol that is equal to this

 

[Saint Nick]

Sounds like cyber-terrorism to me. Do something we don't like and we'll attack your network assets. If Sony does something illegal, take them to court. If you just don't like their practices, then start a campaign to stop people from buying their products. If the majority doesn't mind want Sony is doing, then you don't have the right to take matters into your own hands.

Making a big stink about it never does anything. This is why they did what they did.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

:wub: Anonymous :wub:

 

[PingSpike]

I'd probably bet on Sony incompetence being the root cause myself.

I don't understand why everyone is so sure this was a master scheme by Anonymous. Big deal, they hate Sony...like everyone else. I've been issued a new CC 3 times this year because various databases holding the information were compromised...that they actually know of. I didn't see anon blamed for all those. There are plenty of entities out there seeking this kind of information and they are successful at getting it. The companies holding just plain do not value the safety of customer information. Why would they? Protecting our information is just a cost to them, they will do the bare minimum...just like with other aspects of customer service.

 

[TheVrolok]

They are going after whoever they want to because they can. Do you think coke relies on the legal system to keep it's recipe secret? do you think they put out a patent? lol, good joke...

Yes, they absolutely do rely on the law.

Sounds like cyber-terrorism to me. Do something we don't like and we'll attack your network assets. If Sony does something illegal, take them to court. If you just don't like their practices, then start a campaign to stop people from buying their products. If the majority doesn't mind want Sony is doing, then you don't have the right to take matters into your own hands.

This.

Making a big stink about it never does anything. This is why they did what they did.

So if throwing a tantrum doesn't work, take a swing? It's simple, there are right ways to do things, and there are wrong ways. This isn't even grey, it's simply wrong; and I'm hardly a fan of big corporations.

 

[ctbaars]

What ever happened to Anonymous? They used to be in the news all the time. Now it's only Wikileaks or Assange.