WD WORKING WAY TOO MUCH

solidsleasy

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I dont know what the problem is but my hardrive is working way to much while no other things such as RAM and CPU are doing anything.

My CPU is a Q6600
RAM : 2x1GB Ballistix Tracers
CPU: Abit IP35

The hardrive makes too much noise and when it does ii check the performance on task manager and then i goto resource monitor (on vista) and it shows my Hard drive doin lots of work) can any one tell me how to ease the pressure or is this just a bad HD ??????
 

blurrr

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I can only tell you the obvious, disk cleanup and defragment it, other then that try a clean install. I can almost guarantee if the disks working too hard then it's reached beyond its healthy longness.
 

wwswimming

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are you running Vista ? i have Vista Ultimate 32 and,
with no aps. loaded except for the stock Speech
Recognition, the hard drive grinds away.

it's standard behavior for Vista but it's a feature
that can be turned off.
 

SerpentRoyal

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By default, Vista will read a lot of stuffs from the HDD to RAMs after reboot. Why? Cause Vista is slow, so the OS will load frequently used stuffs to RAMs for faster access. You can disable prefetch in SERVICES, which should reduce a lot of HDD trashing after reboot.
 

wwswimming

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Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
By default, Vista will read a lot of stuffs from the HDD to RAMs after reboot. Why? Cause Vista is slow, so the OS will load frequently used stuffs to RAMs for faster access. You can disable prefetch in SERVICES, which should reduce a lot of HDD trashing after reboot.

all right, i just tried to find services. not under
Device Manager, not in the control Panel (that i
can see).

i type "turn off prefetch" in Help. 60 entries,
one about Pre-fetch, the folder location.

try one more time, searching for Services.

nope. enter "Services" in Vista help, don't
see anything.

how do you get to Services in Vista ?
 

dclive

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Originally posted by: wwswimming
Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
By default, Vista will read a lot of stuffs from the HDD to RAMs after reboot. Why? Cause Vista is slow, so the OS will load frequently used stuffs to RAMs for faster access. You can disable prefetch in SERVICES, which should reduce a lot of HDD trashing after reboot.

all right, i just tried to find services. not under
Device Manager, not in the control Panel (that i
can see).

i type "turn off prefetch" in Help. 60 entries,
one about Pre-fetch, the folder location.

try one more time, searching for Services.

nope. enter "Services" in Vista help, don't
see anything.

how do you get to Services in Vista ?

I don't suggest randomly turning off MS services in Vista unless you know exactly what you're doing. MS put them in there for a reason. It's possible the drive is being indexed, and in a few days the issue will go away, or it's possible you have a hardware issue. Have you checked Event Log to ensure no disk-related errors? Have you run a SMART monitor to ensure the disk(s) is/are good?
 

Jeff7181

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Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
By default, Vista will read a lot of stuffs from the HDD to RAMs after reboot. Why? Cause Vista is slow, so the OS will load frequently used stuffs to RAMs for faster access. You can disable prefetch in SERVICES, which should reduce a lot of HDD trashing after reboot.

Incorrect information and stupid advice. Don't believe everything you read on Counter-Strike forums.

Vista accesses the hard drive a lot after a reboot because it's caching files (Superfetch). This is by design and it's a good thing. You don't want to disable this.

Don't go turning off services that make Vista worthwhile. :confused:
 

SerpentRoyal

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Originally posted by: wwswimming
Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
By default, Vista will read a lot of stuffs from the HDD to RAMs after reboot. Why? Cause Vista is slow, so the OS will load frequently used stuffs to RAMs for faster access. You can disable prefetch in SERVICES, which should reduce a lot of HDD trashing after reboot.

all right, i just tried to find services. not under
Device Manager, not in the control Panel (that i
can see).

i type "turn off prefetch" in Help. 60 entries,
one about Pre-fetch, the folder location.

try one more time, searching for Services.

nope. enter "Services" in Vista help, don't
see anything.

how do you get to Services in Vista ?

It's been also one year since I loaded Vista's image file...based on memory CONTROL PANEL/SYSTEM AND MAINTENANCE/ADMINISTRATIVE TOOLS/SERVICES.

You can disable READYBOOST if you don't use USB stick to supplement the on-board RAMs (no gain if PC has sufficient RAMs).

Killing SUPERFETCH will stop the HDD trashing after boot. Note that some programs may launch quicker with SUPERFETCH because it is already preloaded to RAMs.

All the essential windows applications will still be loaded on RAMs without SUPERFETCH. This amounts to about 290MB. WXP SP1 pulls about 80MB.
 

SerpentRoyal

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Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
By default, Vista will read a lot of stuffs from the HDD to RAMs after reboot. Why? Cause Vista is slow, so the OS will load frequently used stuffs to RAMs for faster access. You can disable prefetch in SERVICES, which should reduce a lot of HDD trashing after reboot.

Incorrect information and stupid advice. Don't believe everything you read on Counter-Strike forums.

Vista accesses the hard drive a lot after a reboot because it's caching files (Superfetch). This is by design and it's a good thing. You don't want to disable this.

Don't go turning off services that make Vista worthwhile. :confused:

I run my own tests. Anyone can test this by disabling SUPERFETCH and listen to the HDD and watch the memory load via TASK MANAGER.
 

dclive

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Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
By default, Vista will read a lot of stuffs from the HDD to RAMs after reboot. Why? Cause Vista is slow, so the OS will load frequently used stuffs to RAMs for faster access. You can disable prefetch in SERVICES, which should reduce a lot of HDD trashing after reboot.

Incorrect information and stupid advice. Don't believe everything you read on Counter-Strike forums.

Vista accesses the hard drive a lot after a reboot because it's caching files (Superfetch). This is by design and it's a good thing. You don't want to disable this.

Don't go turning off services that make Vista worthwhile. :confused:

I run my own tests. Anyone can test this by disabling SUPERFETCH and listen to the HDD and watch the memory load via TASK MANAGER.

You DO realize that unused RAM is wasted RAM, right? The ideal is to have 100% of your RAM used at every moment your machine has power, whether for active programs or for some sort of caching.
 

Jeff7181

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Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
By default, Vista will read a lot of stuffs from the HDD to RAMs after reboot. Why? Cause Vista is slow, so the OS will load frequently used stuffs to RAMs for faster access. You can disable prefetch in SERVICES, which should reduce a lot of HDD trashing after reboot.

Incorrect information and stupid advice. Don't believe everything you read on Counter-Strike forums.

Vista accesses the hard drive a lot after a reboot because it's caching files (Superfetch). This is by design and it's a good thing. You don't want to disable this.

Don't go turning off services that make Vista worthwhile. :confused:

I run my own tests. Anyone can test this by disabling SUPERFETCH and listen to the HDD and watch the memory load via TASK MANAGER.

Listening to your hard drive is a test? :laugh:
 

SerpentRoyal

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Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
By default, Vista will read a lot of stuffs from the HDD to RAMs after reboot. Why? Cause Vista is slow, so the OS will load frequently used stuffs to RAMs for faster access. You can disable prefetch in SERVICES, which should reduce a lot of HDD trashing after reboot.

Incorrect information and stupid advice. Don't believe everything you read on Counter-Strike forums.

Vista accesses the hard drive a lot after a reboot because it's caching files (Superfetch). This is by design and it's a good thing. You don't want to disable this.

Don't go turning off services that make Vista worthwhile. :confused:

I run my own tests. Anyone can test this by disabling SUPERFETCH and listen to the HDD and watch the memory load via TASK MANAGER.

Listening to your hard drive is a test? :laugh:

Sure...if the HDD is not trashing, and the cached memory does not increase per Task Manager, then all those non-essential applications are not uploaded to RAMs. Doesn't need tripe digit IQ to figure that one.
 

Jeff7181

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Aug 21, 2002
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Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
By default, Vista will read a lot of stuffs from the HDD to RAMs after reboot. Why? Cause Vista is slow, so the OS will load frequently used stuffs to RAMs for faster access. You can disable prefetch in SERVICES, which should reduce a lot of HDD trashing after reboot.

Incorrect information and stupid advice. Don't believe everything you read on Counter-Strike forums.

Vista accesses the hard drive a lot after a reboot because it's caching files (Superfetch). This is by design and it's a good thing. You don't want to disable this.

Don't go turning off services that make Vista worthwhile. :confused:

I run my own tests. Anyone can test this by disabling SUPERFETCH and listen to the HDD and watch the memory load via TASK MANAGER.

Listening to your hard drive is a test? :laugh:

Sure...if the HDD is not trashing, and the cached memory does not increase per Task Manager, then all those non-essential applications are not uploaded to RAMs. Doesn't need tripe digit IQ to figure that one.

First, RAM is already plural, you don't need to add an s. Second, free memory is wasted memory. May as well use it to cache programs that you will use. Superfetch monitors what programs and files you use frequently and caches them so they load faster. If that RAM is needed, the cached files are simply overwritten with no performance loss.

I'll give you an example. Outlook 2003 takes 6-8 seconds to open on my XP desktop. On my laptop, which is running Vista, Outlook 2007 takes less than 2 seconds.

But hey... if your hard drive light being off soon after Windows boots makes you happy, knock yourself out.
 

SerpentRoyal

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Originally posted by: dclive
Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
By default, Vista will read a lot of stuffs from the HDD to RAMs after reboot. Why? Cause Vista is slow, so the OS will load frequently used stuffs to RAMs for faster access. You can disable prefetch in SERVICES, which should reduce a lot of HDD trashing after reboot.

Incorrect information and stupid advice. Don't believe everything you read on Counter-Strike forums.

Vista accesses the hard drive a lot after a reboot because it's caching files (Superfetch). This is by design and it's a good thing. You don't want to disable this.

Don't go turning off services that make Vista worthwhile. :confused:

I run my own tests. Anyone can test this by disabling SUPERFETCH and listen to the HDD and watch the memory load via TASK MANAGER.

You DO realize that unused RAM is wasted RAM, right? The ideal is to have 100% of your RAM used at every moment your machine has power, whether for active programs or for some sort of caching.


Ahhh...same old line about unused RAM is wasted RAM. Why should the HDD continue to cache another 600 to 800MB of garbage to RAMs? More wear and tear to the HDD with each reboot. I do not want to compete with SUPERFETCH once I see the desktop. That's why I disable SUPERFETCH. A good HDD can read 60MB/sec. How much time would I save by caching 800MB of data on RAMs?
 

SerpentRoyal

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Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
By default, Vista will read a lot of stuffs from the HDD to RAMs after reboot. Why? Cause Vista is slow, so the OS will load frequently used stuffs to RAMs for faster access. You can disable prefetch in SERVICES, which should reduce a lot of HDD trashing after reboot.

Incorrect information and stupid advice. Don't believe everything you read on Counter-Strike forums.

Vista accesses the hard drive a lot after a reboot because it's caching files (Superfetch). This is by design and it's a good thing. You don't want to disable this.

Don't go turning off services that make Vista worthwhile. :confused:

I run my own tests. Anyone can test this by disabling SUPERFETCH and listen to the HDD and watch the memory load via TASK MANAGER.

Listening to your hard drive is a test? :laugh:

Sure...if the HDD is not trashing, and the cached memory does not increase per Task Manager, then all those non-essential applications are not uploaded to RAMs. Doesn't need tripe digit IQ to figure that one.

First, RAM is already plural, you don't need to add an s. Second, free memory is wasted memory. May as well use it to cache programs that you will use. Superfetch monitors what programs and files you use frequently and caches them so they load faster. If that RAM is needed, the cached files are simply overwritten with no performance loss.

I'll give you an example. Outlook 2003 takes 6-8 seconds to open on my XP desktop. On my laptop, which is running Vista, Outlook 2007 takes less than 2 seconds.

But hey... if your hard drive light being off soon after Windows boots makes you happy, knock yourself out.


Less than 2 seconds to open my Outlook with WXP Pro SP1 and Opteron single core (2.98GHz). This is an older machine with only 1GB RAM. How is this possible without PREFETCH?

Let's see...6 seconds to open outlook. That's 4 seconds slower because the data is not prefetched to RAMs? If the read speed of your HDD is only 50MB/sec, then are we to believe that the HDD must read more than 200MB of data to open outlook? Wow...unbelievable.
 

Jeff7181

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Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
By default, Vista will read a lot of stuffs from the HDD to RAMs after reboot. Why? Cause Vista is slow, so the OS will load frequently used stuffs to RAMs for faster access. You can disable prefetch in SERVICES, which should reduce a lot of HDD trashing after reboot.

Incorrect information and stupid advice. Don't believe everything you read on Counter-Strike forums.

Vista accesses the hard drive a lot after a reboot because it's caching files (Superfetch). This is by design and it's a good thing. You don't want to disable this.

Don't go turning off services that make Vista worthwhile. :confused:

I run my own tests. Anyone can test this by disabling SUPERFETCH and listen to the HDD and watch the memory load via TASK MANAGER.

Listening to your hard drive is a test? :laugh:

Sure...if the HDD is not trashing, and the cached memory does not increase per Task Manager, then all those non-essential applications are not uploaded to RAMs. Doesn't need tripe digit IQ to figure that one.

First, RAM is already plural, you don't need to add an s. Second, free memory is wasted memory. May as well use it to cache programs that you will use. Superfetch monitors what programs and files you use frequently and caches them so they load faster. If that RAM is needed, the cached files are simply overwritten with no performance loss.

I'll give you an example. Outlook 2003 takes 6-8 seconds to open on my XP desktop. On my laptop, which is running Vista, Outlook 2007 takes less than 2 seconds.

But hey... if your hard drive light being off soon after Windows boots makes you happy, knock yourself out.


Less than 2 seconds to open my Outlook with WXP Pro SP1 and Opteron single core (2.98GHz). This is an older machine with only 1GB RAM. How is this possible without PREFETCH?

Let's see...6 seconds to open outlook. That's 4 seconds slower because the data is not prefetched to RAMs? If the read speed of your HDD is only 50MB/sec, then are we to believe that the HDD must read more than 200MB of data to open outlook? Wow...unbelievable.

Your ignorance speaks for itself.