WD 120GB SE is not 120GB at all! Bleah!

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goodoptics

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<< Well, if you had bought a larger drive, you would have been cheated out of even more space. :p >>



Very true. My Maxtor 160GB ATA133 formatted to about 153GB.. now that I've filled it with pr0n, I've got to go buy another one...
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:Q
 

Red Dawn

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These days with Cheap Drives it's not so Annoying but back when a 1 Gig SCSI Drive cost $400.00 it was a real pisser.
 

Hammer

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OEMs got spanked with a suit regarding monitor viewable size and deceptive advertising. Its only a matter of time before HD makers get slapped with one.
 

Mookow

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<< These days with Cheap Drives it's not so Annoying but back when a 1 Gig SCSI Drive cost $400.00 it was a real pisser. >>



Uh no.... Red has started on the "back in my day..."


BTW, Red, I like the new avatar.
 

phatcow

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hello moron. the only rip off is the rip off you recieved paying for your ICS education in school. They should have taught you something called file system overhead. When you actually format a drive, the usable size grows smaller.
 

Zenmervolt

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<< Well, they do put 1MB=1,000,000 bytes Kinda close

Yeah, but then who would be motivated enough to go and do the math and calulate the exact metric-gigabyte value and convert it to computer-megabyte values?

Still, a simple "114GB formatted" would be nice... they even have those on the 3.5" floppies... 2mb unformatted, 1.44mb formatted, right on the label!
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I have yet to see a HDD box that does not say "Actual formatted capacity will differ from size shown." Still, a rough formatted capacity would be nice. Can't do an exact formatted capacity because of differing overhead from various file systems. (For example, Mac floppies are 1.40 MB because their file system takes more space.)

ZV
 

Milkman95

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I will throw one out here... what if you formated this drive with Linux? Would the space be the same? If not, then giving a formated space would not be viable as different types of formating give different sizes. the main # is the base size.

As for i remember when... anyone still have any old microsoft OS disks that were formated to hold more than 1.4 meg(1.38)? Try copying windows system disks to find they don't fit on a normal floppy?
 

BDawg

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<< That 6GB that I was UNJUSTLY cheated out of could mean 3-4 DVD rip movies or game ISOs that I could fit onto the harddrive!!! >>



Awww...hims can't steal movies and games wike hims wants too.
 
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<< That 6GB that I was UNJUSTLY cheated out of could mean 3-4 DVD rip movies or game ISOs that I could fit onto the harddrive!!! >>



Awww...hims can't steal movies and games wike hims wants too.
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I was just about to say that :D
 

Maetryx

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I advertise my weiner as a 9-incher, but then I have to explain that it only formats to 4-inches in the English system. I use the Leprachaun system when advertising.
 

chrisjor

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actually phatcow has the best point....even if the drive were exactly what was advertised you would still lose some of it to the file formatting on the drive. What is needed is a more efficient format system, we have seen a slow evolution...FAT......FAT32....NTFS. Each uses space a little more wisely than the last...........Wasn't IBM OS2 the most efficient of all?
 

crypticlogin

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<< I have yet to see a HDD box that does not say "Actual formatted capacity will differ from size shown." >>


Don't they? I haven't bought a retail drive in a while so I don't have a box in front of me for reference, but I can vaguely recall most of them having some conversion schtick like "1 GB = 1 billion bytes" or "size dependent on OS", or at least some disclaimer. Anybody care to back me up with a box?
 

notfred

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"I have been unjustly cheated out of 6GB of space that I would have used to store illegally copied games and movies!"

please
rolleye.gif
 

Joyride

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<< hello moron. the only rip off is the rip off you recieved paying for your ICS education in school. They should have taught you something called file system overhead. When you actually format a drive, the usable size grows smaller. >>



I don't consider myself a HD genius but I have known that since day one. Good grief
 

cjsketchy

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<< Very true. My Maxtor 160GB ATA133 formatted to about 153GB.. now that I've filled it with pr0n, I've got to go buy another one... >>



I'm impressed :D
 

Smolek

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To figure out how much space an actual hard drive is multiply (GB) x .93=Total Space
 

Kraid2xd

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For the record, I actually own about 80% of those movies on actual retial DVDs back at home (don't ask me about the games tho :p)

I rip em so I can watch them away from home...
 

azollman

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If I recall correctly...
One Gigabyte is in fact 1,000,000,000 bytes. I believe the term you are looking for is Gibybyte(SP?) which is 1024^2 etc...
I may be wrong, but I think I've got it this time.

az