[WCCF] AMD Radeon R9 390X Pictured

[soccerballtux]

The answer is simple: AMD did it first -- AIO CLC, 17-20 cm PCB and near > 500mm2 die with HBM1, despite this being a flagship card, not a puny 350mm2 HBM2 card. These innovations are going to leave a mark on the GPU industry for the next decade or so. HBM2 will continue to scale and maybe there will be HBM3. I fully expect a lot more flagship cards to feature AIO CLC and more high-end gamers accepting this as the preferable solution. eVGA has 980Ti Hybrid which means 980 Hybrid must have sold well.

Major AIBs are jumping on the AIO CLC bandwagon as well. MSI and Corsair aren't standing still on this front.

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you know when you put it like that, you're right. Imagine reading your post as if it were NVidia-- it sounds exactly like typical 'NVidia is better, NVidia was first, NVidia best performance...'

but it's AMD.

 

[soccerballtux]

Except that this turned out to be a straight 290X. No rebrand, no nothing. So you were wrong yet again.

yeah, but it's not a rebrand, that was just a way to avoid breach of NDA and demo their water cooler.

 

[stahlhart]

If you are posting factual information in this forum, you need to cite a verifiable source for it. This needs to be in the proper citation format if it is in a thread title as an OP.

If you do not have, or for one reason or another are otherwise unwilling to cite a verifiable source, it will be considered rumor/speculation, and again it needs to be clearly identified as such in the thread title of an OP.

Posturing in any way as a "factual" but unverifiable source will be considered trolling, and handled accordingly.

-- stahlhart

 

[soccerballtux]

If you are posting factual information in this forum, you need to cite a verifiable source for it. This needs to be in the proper citation format if it is in a thread title as an OP.

If you do not have, or for one reason or another are otherwise unwilling to cite a verifiable source, it will be considered rumor/speculation, and again it needs to be clearly identified as such in the thread title of an OP.

Posturing in any way as a "factual" but unverifiable source will be considered trolling, and handled accordingly.

-- stahlhart

sorry, can you be more specific, which of is at fault here and which do you want to be more careful

 

[soccerballtux]

yeah, but it's not a rebrand, that was just a way to avoid breach of NDA and demo their water cooler.

http://www.eteknix.com/powercolor-clarifies-details-on-amd-390x-photos-at-computex/

Computex 2015 – As we are live at Computex, we wanted to find out of the leaked photos actually were of the upcoming AMD Radeon R9 390X or not. So we caught up with PowerColor and asked them some questions to find out.

And we now know it for sure and sadly have to debunk the previous news. The pictured card is NOT the new R9 390X, nor is it an official cooling design.

The representative at the PowerColor booth confirmed this. Underneath the beefy cooler is an AMD Radeon R9 290X card and it is equipped with a prototype DEVIL 13 Hybrid cooling solution. So sadly, this is neither a finished new card nor the highly expected Radeon R9 390X card.

PowerColor could however confirm that they are working on the new AMD R9 300 series and will have their cards ready shortly after the official reveal June 16th at E3, so stay tuned and we’ll make sure to keep you updated as soon as we have more information.

 

[Kenmitch]

It is impressive looking. About that other note, it is entirely possible that AMD hit a home run with HBM. It is also entirely possible that AMD utilized HBM just one gen too early. It's a total wait and see, I know.

Time will I guess. They due tend to be 1st to new memory technology so that part looks norm to me. Most likely it'll give them a edge with HBM2. Figure some driver, memory optimization experience at minimum.

Reviews can't come soon enough. Kind of wondering about additional features,etc.

 

[Cloudfire777]

versus:



and then this post:

So? I`m saying the same thing about the card.

If 390X = 290X.
If not a 390X = 290X
The two options are pretty much the same.


You guys should learn how to read.
Got to love the circlejerk going on in this forum. Keep it up

 

[EightySix Four]

So? I`m saying the same thing about the card.

If 390X = 290X.
If not a 390X = 290X
Based on the picture its a rebrand. The two options are pretty much the same


You guys should learn how to read.
Got to love the circlejerk going on in this forum. Keep it up

You 100% said that was proof the 390X is a rebrand. You're trying to rewrite your own history when its still right here on the forum, no interpretation or misreading necessary.

Amazing.

 

[coercitiv]

If 390X = 290X.
If not a 390X = 290X
The two options are pretty much the same.

Pure poetry.

 

[Cloudfire777]

You 100% said that was proof the 390X is a rebrand. You're trying to rewrite your own history when its still right here on the forum, no interpretation or misreading necessary.

Amazing.

Whats so hard to understand? It really isnt amazing

If the card was a 390X like the sites said the card was, it was a 290X (rebrand).
Which is what I said when you looked at the PCB

Come on now guys. Lets move on with the discussion.
So far we havent seen any 390X cards (just benchmark from Videocardz and the result I posted).
Performance seems to fall slightly below GTX 980. TDP/Power is still unknown

 

[Zstream]

well, no, i didn't know that. thanks!

I thought we get previews a few days before launch, am I missing something?

 

[Zstream]

Whats so hard to understand? It really isnt amazing

If the card was a 390X like the sites said the card was, it was a 290X (rebrand).
Which is what I said when you looked at the PCB

No, you took the false speculation, fully knowing it's speculation and ran with it. If you stated this site is reporting that it's a rebrand and left it at that, I think everyone would be ok.

When sites leak news, it's generally based off of false information or only a half truth. If you're good at picking out false propaganda, you would be a rich man.

 

[stahlhart]

sorry, can you be more specific, which of is at fault here and which do you want to be more careful

I'm not pointing at anyone in particular; I'm only stating this as a general announcement for everyone that participates in the forum. This just looked like an appropriate moment for a reminder.

Because we don't have a specific area for trade rumor/speculation, and because this forum is intended for technical discussion, we need to be careful about being clear which is which.

-- stahlhart

 

[SirPauly]

Very impressive! I don't know how anyone can look at this and not be impressed.

Too bad they've got a crap R&D budget. /sarc.

It is impressive and desire to know more but considering the time-to-market and what the competition is offering, was it the correct move? Certainly desire the move to do well and for AMD to recapture share. Will see if this bold and aggressive play from AMD pays off.

The answer is simple: AMD did it first -- AIO CLC, 17-20 cm PCB and near > 500mm2 die with HBM1, despite this being a flagship card, not a puny 350mm2 HBM2 card. These innovations are going to leave a mark on the GPU industry for the next decade or so. HBM2 will continue to scale and maybe there will be HBM3. I fully expect a lot more flagship cards to feature AIO CLC and more high-end gamers accepting this as the preferable solution. eVGA has 980Ti Hybrid which means 980 Hybrid must have sold well.

Major AIBs are jumping on the AIO CLC bandwagon as well. MSI and Corsair aren't standing still on this front.

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Hybrid solutions were always welcomed, but desire this to be handled by AIB's for differentiation for sku's designed for overclocking enthusiasts or for gamers that don't mind paying premiums for less compromises. It's really nothing new to me. It's nice to see AIB differentiation with liquid cooling.

 

[Cloudfire777]

No, you took the false speculation, fully knowing it's speculation and ran with it. If you stated this site is reporting that it's a rebrand and left it at that, I think everyone would be ok.

When sites leak news, it's generally based off of false information or only a half truth. If you're good at picking out false propaganda, you would be a rich man.

So Im responsible for making decisions for you people here? You are uncapable of figuring out on your own wether to trust a speculation or not?
wow, better stop reading this thread then. Or ideally you should have stopped 96 pages back ^_^

Here is a newsflash: Everything so far about any 300 card (except OEM cards) and Fiji cards are all speculation.

I suggest we all move on. Probably more speculation coming tomorrow ^^

 

[Grooveriding]

You make posts stating 'confirmed' and speak in absolutes about junk information that usually turns out to be wrong, the quotes above literally show that. Most every rumour thread you posted about the 980ti, including the 'secret' source, was completely wrong and I expect the same for Fiji and the 390X.

Your 'performance confirmed' thread got locked because I would guess you've expended the patience of most of the forum and exhausted whatever credence you had with a torrent of incorrect information.

Right now the safe bet is going the total opposite direction of the junk rumours, because that seems to be the more likely outcome. Which I guess means 390X will not be a rebrand and Fiji/Fury whatever it is will smash Titan X's performance

 

[thilanliyan]

So Im responsible for making decisions for you people here? You are uncapable of figuring out on your own wether to trust a speculation or not?

Of course we have to decide, but you were posting stuff like this:
"Here is a dead giveaway that R9 390X is R9 290X rebrand (as if we didnt have enough)."

You went around the vid forum posting as if all this speculation was fact. Even your thread title about the Hardwareluxx article didn't imply speculation (before it was changed), it implied it was fact. That's why people are annoyed...hope you see that.

 

[crashtech]

So Im responsible for making decisions for you people here? You are uncapable of figuring out on your own wether to trust a speculation or not?
wow, better stop reading this thread then. Or ideally you should have stopped 96 pages back ^_^

Here is a newsflash: Everything so far about any 300 card (except OEM cards) and Fiji cards are all speculation.

I suggest we all move on. Probably more speculation coming tomorrow ^^

Oh, come on, we are all responsible for the wording of our posts. Maybe English is your second language? Most of us know how to construct a sentence so it won't be taken as a statement of fact, which is what you might want to start doing when posting rumors, just to eliminate doubt and the litany of posts saying pretty much what I am saying. You aren't so deluded that you think we are ALL wrong, and that you alone are right in this?

 

[jackstar7]

Turning a nearly 2500 post thread about a videocard into being about you: priceless.


This is going to be a long couple weeks... and I'm hoping E3 will also have major leaks for Battlefront (the game I want to upgrade for).

 

[RampantAndroid]

How about we move along to talking about this card and take the wording argument elsewhere?

 

[Cloudfire777]

Of course we have to decide, but you were posting stuff like this:
"Here is a dead giveaway that R9 390X is R9 290X rebrand (as if we didnt have enough)."

You went around the vid forum posting as if all this speculation was fact. Even your thread title about the Hardwareluxx article didn't imply speculation (before it was changed), it implied it was fact. That's why people are annoyed...hope you see that.

My dead giveaway was actually 100% correct.
haha :thumbsup:


But I know why people critizise. It because I`ve speculated negative things about the upcoming cards from AMD. Of course people don`t remember the positive.

Typical humans.

You make posts stating 'confirmed' and speak in absolutes about junk information that usually turns out to be wrong, the quotes above literally show that. Most every rumour thread you posted about the 980ti, including the 'secret' source, was completely wrong and I expect the same for Fiji and the 390X.

Your 'performance confirmed' thread got locked because I would guess you've expended the patience of most of the forum and exhausted whatever credence you had with a torrent of incorrect information.

Right now the safe bet is going the total opposite direction of the junk rumours, because that seems to be the more likely outcome. Which I guess means 390X will not be a rebrand and Fiji/Fury whatever it is will smash Titan X's performance

The only thing thats be wrong so far regarding GM200 and 300 series have been from what the one guy told me. And it was garbage.
You for example forgot about my $649 for GTX 980Ti thread I opened while wccftech and many other sites ran $799 as price. Which turned out to be correct. I even had good arguments to back it up, like I do with all speculations that is brought up. But of course you are incapable of remembering other things than the negative. Just like your circlejerk friends here. Oh and as with all speculation, uncertainty is part of the game which you people should know, yet you sadly use this opportunity to bash me because some of the speculation I post (which I got from other sites/soures) is wrong. Now that speak more of you than of me

Are you guys gonna move on with the thread or keep going with these personal discussions? I think this is the third time Ive asked

 

[LTC8K6]

http://www.eteknix.com/powercolor-clarifies-details-on-amd-390x-photos-at-computex/

nor the highly expected Radeon R9 390X card

Again it seems they think 390X is Fiji.

The highly expected card is Fiji / Fury.

The highly expected AMD card is very short and water cooled.

No one who is paying any attention should have thought that powercolor card was the "highly expected" card from AMD.

Strange.

 

[stahlhart]

Are you guys gonna move on with the thread or keep going with these personal discussions? I think this is the third time Ive asked

How about we start with you? Let it go, NOW.
-- stahlhart

 

[3DVagabond]

It is impressive looking for sure. If it has performance to match the reviews will be very interesting.

On another note....If you throw a Nvidia logo on there we'd be hearing things like.: Final death blow to AMD, last nail in the coffin, etc.

Agreed, performance has yet to be seen. Certainly was promise though.

To your 2nd point they'd be so far behind they'll never catch up, why would anyone buy old GDDR5 tech, they're only giving us so much RAM to try and make up for the fact they don't have the latest tech... and so on.

AMD comes up with it and we don't need any of it's advantages. Inefficient and slow GDDR5 is fine. Just give me a lot of it.

 

[Udgnim]

wasn't aware that AMD was going to be the only seller for the WCE version

so optimistic that the rumors that Fiji being slower than 980Ti is the cut down version and not the WCE version

I'm no where near the market for these cards but AMD needs a win after getting beat up so badly by Maxwell