[WCCF] AMD Radeon R9 390X Pictured

[maddie]

Im quoting myself to say:

AMD just went completely bonkers with secrecy! I wish we would know ANYTHING right now. Not a single leak!

The Radeon 9700 pro
The radeon 48xx series.

Not a single leak, and them wham. Go and look at the first reviews of both.


I want more competition.

I re-read Anandtech's 9700 pro and it sounds all so familiar.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/947

"The frustration has been building at ATI for years now; every GPU they’ve released and every inch of progress they’ve made has been spoiled by NVIDIA. One month after the Radeon first launched, updated Detonator3 drivers gave the GeForce2 GTS the performance boost necessary to outperform the Radeon. And who could forget the release of NVIDIA’s Detonator4 drivers, strategically circulated right before the preview release of ATI’s Radeon 8500 that completely tilted the performance in NVIDIA’s favor.

Every single time we would talk to ATI, they would always tell us that the next time things would be different, that the next time they will beat NVIDIA and as you all know, that next time never seemed to happen.

With the GeForce4 release, NVIDIA extended their lead by a very healthy margin. ATI’s flagship Radeon 8500 could barely keep up with NVIDIA’s entry-level $200 Ti 4200, not to mention the beating that the top of the line Ti 4600 delivered.

When ATI started talking about R300 and hinted that it would be significantly faster than anything NVIDIA had up their sleeves, we were understandably skeptical. The progression from there is best summed up by what our own Matthew Witheiler had to say about the R300:

“It all started with Carmack's endorsement of the card; that was huge for them. Now it has erupted into something that I didn’t think was possible”

Matthew’s final statement sums up the feelings all of us at AnandTech had about the R300; we were impressed that John Carmack provided such a glowing endorsement of the technology back at Quakecon, but we were floored once we actually saw working silicon in action.

As you’re about to see, ATI has finally released a GPU that is not only the unequivocal performance leader but also the first to market with the DirectX 9 features that NVIDIA will not be delivering until November.

Before we dig into the architecture behind the R300 we need to get something out in the open: the Radeon 9700, the first R300 based card from ATI, will be in stores no later than 30-days from now. The card retails for a MSRP of $399 and with all that ATI has been able to show us that far, we have no reason not to believe them on this.

It’s time to crown a new king, let’s have a look at the head we’re placing it on today."

 

[twjr]

True. At the moment all we have is unverified information. And all he really told us was to wait and see what AMD released which is what a lot of people have been saying. I guess we just all want something more concrete to come from AMD. The anticipation is at fever pitch.

 

[takiat]

Don't let anyone intimidate you. Many here post without any proof and there are fans here that like to prevent anyone saying something that does not agree with what they want.

Thanks Maddie,
Like I said, just trying to contribute to the forum.

Also 1.2M block buy of AMD shares the other day at close. http://stocktwits.com/HITbidsHARD
Not that it means AMD is going to drop a hammer on Nvidia, but if the lineup is a letdown, whoever bought those shares stands to lose a lot of money.
Follow the money is a better strategy than run away from the money!

 

[takiat]

Read up and see he is a member of slickdeals. You should be asking him to prove he's a 15 year member of slickdeals and see his work/posts over there to see if he is a reputable person or not....

Sorry, guess I was off a few years as a registered user. Spent several years reading slick deals before actually joining. Kinda like 1st time caller, long time listener on the talk radio stations.
Still, 10 years is no small amount of time.

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Sorry, guess I was off a few years as a registered user. Spent several years reading slick deals before actually joining. Kinda like 1st time caller, long time listener on the talk radio stations.
Still, 10 years is no small amount of time.

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Just saying. People like to just make an accusation first without giving a person a chance to prove themselves.

On topic:
With what maddie and you have just posted.... I'm very excited about this card. I think RS recent posts convinced me to stay away from this round of GPUs(or at least just get a $300 stop gap since my true goal is 4K anyway), but I don't have a family, or any money obligations, it just goes in the bank and sits there so if this GPU is some kind of monster from AMD, I may buy day 1. And I've never bought hardware day 1.
Otherwise, I'll just pick a decent value option later down the year with my 4K HDTV and just play at 1080p/120hz on it until node shrink happens.

 

[csbin]

http://videocardz.com/56122/amd-radeon-r9-fury-exposed-in-new-renders

:biggrin:

 

[Azix]

What kind of performance and price can we expect from the pro, and from the 390x. ALLLLL I care about. Mostly...

 

[RampantAndroid]

The Fiji GPU was shown ahead of the official launch that is planned for 16th June however some sources did reveal that AMD made last minute changes to not reveal the card at Computex. They previously had plans to show off the complete Radeon Fury card but that changed after the launch of the GeForce GTX 980 Ti and now AMD is making a few adjustments in terms of clock speeds to further optimize the performance of the said card. AMD’s Vice President did claim at the event that the Fiji GPU based card will be the fastest in the world however that cannot be confirmed at the moment since conflicting reports came in yesterday that the card may end up delivering similar performance as the 980 Ti.


Read more: http://wccftech.com/amd-officially-...radeon-fury-launches-16th-june/#ixzz3c398l8dP

This just sounds like the card is going to run hot as hell now...if the 980ti made them hold back info, then they didn't expect the 980ti to be that powerful.

 

[AnandThenMan]

You really shouldn't post this as there is no way for us to confirm what you are saying is true.

We can't verify any of the info or leaks churning around the web I don't see why this is any different. Grains of salt a requirement.

 

[swilli89]

We can't verify any of the info or leaks churning around the web I don't see why this is any different. Grains of salt a requirement.

Yeah its part of the fun! Only part that isn't is when certain people over hype the negative rumors. Then it's not fun

 

[tential]

This just sounds like the card is going to run hot as hell now...if the 980ti made them hold back info, then they didn't expect the 980ti to be that powerful.

That's unconfirmed... and it doesn't even make sense. How can you seriously not get this yet.
Their launch IS JUNE 16th.

Please post a quote from AMD saying the launch was ever during computex.

 

[maddie]

This just sounds like the card is going to run hot as hell now...if the 980ti made them hold back info, then they didn't expect the 980ti to be that powerful.

MD’s Vice President did claim at the event that the Fiji GPU based card will be the fastest in the world however that cannot be confirmed at the moment since conflicting reports came in yesterday that the card may end up delivering similar performance as the 980 Ti.

Its either AMD lying as the Titan is still the fastest card, which they knew about for quite a while, or the card being held by the CEO is not the fastest Fury model.

This is Fury, is not the same as this is the top Fury. Why do this? 4HBM stacks?

 

[Creig]

This just sounds like the card is going to run hot as hell now...if the 980ti made them hold back info, then they didn't expect the 980ti to be that powerful.

Or Nvidia got so scared from finding out the true specs of Fiji that they knew they had to cut the price on the 980Ti or else look completely stupid.

 

[tential]

MD’s Vice President did claim at the event that the Fiji GPU based card will be the fastest in the world however that cannot be confirmed at the moment since conflicting reports came in yesterday that the card may end up delivering similar performance as the 980 Ti.

Its either AMD lying as the Titan is still the fastest card, which they knew about for quite a while, or the card being held by the CEO is not the fastest Fury model.

This is Fury, is not the same as this is the top Fury. Why do this? 4HBM stacks?

I honestly doubt AMD would give up high resolution performance. They pushed 4K so hard with 290x. I don't think 4GB HBM will be a limitation vs 6GB DDR5 ram.

 

[AnandThenMan]

Or Nvidia got so scared from finding out the true specs of Fiji that they knew they had to cut the price on the 980Ti or else look completely stupid.

It is odd that Nvidia priced the Ti @650 that's a heck of a cut for a card that is nearly a Titan X. What makes sense to me is Nvidia knows they are going to get some serious competition from AMD so they don't want to drop prices the day Fury comes out would look bad, instead just price the card lower from the start.

 

[monstercameron]

That's unconfirmed... and it doesn't even make sense. How can you seriously not get this yet.
Their launch IS JUNE 16th.

Please post a quote from AMD saying the launch was ever during computex.

wha is even worse is that he seems to think amd didnt have an idea where the 980ti would land when the titan x has been out for a while...

 

[swilli89]

I honestly doubt AMD would give up high resolution performance. They pushed 4K so hard with 290x. I don't think 4GB HBM will be a limitation vs 6GB DDR5 ram.

Agreed.

What I find sort of funny is the massive troll job that is the "Fiji VR" sku

 

[Azix]

This just sounds like the card is going to run hot as hell now...if the 980ti made them hold back info, then they didn't expect the 980ti to be that powerful.

or they are dropping clocks because they overestimated. the titan x and 295x2 were already on the charts before computex

 

[swilli89]

or they are dropping clocks because they overestimated. the titan x and 295x2 were already on the charts before computex

You don't play it conservative when your at 25% market share. You play your cards close to the chest, wait for your opponent to bet on the river then you drop your hand after all the bets are on the table. I gaurentee amd will not dial down any sort of lead they may have.

 

[Silverforce11]

This just sounds like the card is going to run hot as hell now...if the 980ti made them hold back info, then they didn't expect the 980ti to be that powerful.

This statement show you have zero understanding of water cooling.

Even a 500W R295X2 doesn't run hot.

 

[boozzer]

This just sounds like the card is going to run hot as hell now...if the 980ti made them hold back info, then they didn't expect the 980ti to be that powerful.

that jump at conclusions based on nothing was lightning fast. bravo! :awe:

 

[Opcode]

In you theory that Fiji can be bigger surprise than we think might be something...

Vice President of AMD said that they are building the fastest GPU in the world.

Which means that it can be faster than Titan X or... R9 295X2.

Fiji will be the fastest GPU on the planet regardless once you quote TFLOPS. It doesn't have to offer the best gaming performance to hold that title.

 

[tential]

wha is even worse is that he seems to think amd didnt have an idea where the 980ti would land when the titan x has been out for a while...

Most of this is mindboggling to me. You know I'm no AMD fanboy at all, you've seen my posts about them MANY a time. But this is ridiculous at this point. We ALL knew where the 980ti was going to land. EVERYONE. It was no surprise.

It's only ONE group of people acting like AMD was blindsided by the GTX 980ti. I was only excited to read the review because it was new hardware. We ALL knew where the performance was going to land though. I actually was slightly surprised that Nvidia didn't clock the GTX 980 Ti faster than the Titan X right out the gate. But I guess they know their AIB's will do it anyway so it makes them look nice to their Titan X owners by having it retain the lead in every bench.

Then, AIB's will have FAR faster models out in time to compete against the Fury X. I dunno... AMD may have a great product, but don't count out Nvidia. These guys are some of the biggest masters at selling gpus in the hardware industry. Expect a new GTX 980 model to destroy the Fury X if it's better than even aftermarket AIB OC'd GTX 980 Ti's (which I think will be great of course!). In fact, I bet Nvidia already has the renders ready to leak whenever they feel like just in case they need to.

But I just think Nvidia's tactial business maneuvers are just lightyears ahead of AMD.

Price/performance I'll probably go with my tried and true, buy AMD, wait for a game to be patched, play it. Cheapest, least stressful, oh, did I mention that it's cheap since the game is on a great sale by then. Then play with far less bugs, higher fps/graphical fidelitly, etc. Not for everyone, but works for me.

 

[maddie]

I honestly doubt AMD would give up high resolution performance. They pushed 4K so hard with 290x. I don't think 4GB HBM will be a limitation vs 6GB DDR5 ram.

What I meant is for the huge # of gamers that buy only on the box numbers. 6GB sounds a lot better than 4GB. You and many here will think about performance ratings and other important factors, but don't expect that thinking for all or even most gamers. Even if AMD solves the Vram usage problem, it won't matter to those who only see 4GB and 6GB.

Those are the ones where you must have 8GB to say you have more. We have had one famous key player here say TitanX has 12GB so it can command a premium, even though we know 12GB for gaming is overkill. Thats how people think.

 

[AnandThenMan]

Expect a new GTX 980 model to destroy the Fury X if it's better than even aftermarket AIB OC'd GTX 980 Ti's

Maybe, but if Fury X ends up being a beast of a card Nvidia don't be able to do anything about it no matter how high they clock up their GPU. And I don't think Nvidia wants to end up with a space heater of a card they've cultivated a reputation of cool and quiet.