[WCCF] AMD Radeon R9 390X Pictured

[iiiankiii]

4GB is very small for 4k. If what they're saying is true (about the memory inefficiency), AMD has a lot of work ahead of them to make it work. I believe they can make it work. But it isn't going to look good against a 6GB 980ti or a 12GB Titan X. I'm skeptical about 4GB being good enough for 4k. We will see...

 

[Glo.]

Apple just updated the Macbook Pro 15 inch with retina with Radeon R9 M370X, and it has support for 5K display.


Not bad.

 

[iiiankiii]

Fiji XT rumored to be priced at $849

At that price, it has to beat the Titan X. We might not see any movement in price from Nvidia's GTX 970, 980, and/or Titan X if this is true.

 

[Glo.]

Has anyone got ANY information as of now for the performance or even core count of R9 M370X? Internet is silent, apart from few benchmarks for OpenCL in which this chip beats M270X, and is beaten by M295X.

 

[railven]

Fiji XT rumored to be priced at $849

At that price, it has to beat the Titan X. We might not see any movement in price from Nvidia's GTX 970, 980, and/or Titan X if this is true.

Well this isn't reassuring:

It looks like the 4GB card will be the first into the shops. The 8GB card has two GPUs and it won't launch at the same time. The Fiji XT 4GB will launch by middle of June, around E3.

So the 8GB "version" is gonna be an X2 variant?

And if that price tag is right, AMD lost a sale. I know (forgot her name new CEO) said they don't want AMD to be considered bargain brand anymore, but holy cow! If the GTX 980 Ti launches at the old Ti price point (say $700) with 6GBs of VRAM and beats the Fiji XT at the same win/loss ration of rumored Fiji XT vs Titan X. Well, then, AMD just shoots themselves in the foot, again.

 

[Silverforce11]

There's no way I am paying $849 USD for a 4GB flagship. I'll wait it out for 14nm stuff if that's the case.

 

[digitaldurandal]

What makes you think Titan is selling in any significant volume that affects Nvidia's bottom dollar? AMD is financial trouble. They won't claw out of financial trouble selling 5,000 $850 graphics cards. They need a fresh mix of products between $200-500 that are a solid win in every regard.

An $850 graphics card trading blows with a $1000 graphics card will do nothing to fix AMD.

Their graphics division is profitable. Their losses are on the cpu side. An 850 dollar card trading with a 1k card is fine. We don't know how many they're producing or at what margin. I assume as with all things the price will fluctuate with demand.

 

[Kenmitch]

Wow....Declared fail before the launch?

This forum is harsh.

Without reviews how can you declare failure?

I'm waiting for reviews before passing judgment.

The secret sauce is the unknown variable still left out of the equation.

 

[desprado]

There's no way I am paying $849 USD for a 4GB flagship. I'll wait it out for 14nm stuff if that's the case.

Confirmed
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-amd-reveals-hbm-future-of-graphics-ram-tech

Gamespot also posted.

Now what i fell is that Nvidia will now focus on more extra quality texture in their sponsored Games so that it has market advantage.

 

[desprado]

Wow....Declared fail before the launch?

This forum is harsh.

Without reviews how can you declare failure?

I'm waiting for reviews before passing judgment.

The secret sauce is the unknown variable still left out of the equation.

It has very less advantage because it is new technology said by AMD Macri

 

[Silverforce11]

Confirmed
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-amd-reveals-hbm-future-of-graphics-ram-tech

Gamespot also posted.

Now what i fell is that Nvidia will now focus on more extra quality in their sponsored Games so that it has market advantage.

Well if NV wants to push vram advantage with GameWorks, they would have to require devs to include 4K textures in their games with an optional 8K texture "Ultra" option. That would completely blow away all 4GB GPUs.

 

[crisium]

Well this isn't reassuring:


So the 8GB "version" is gonna be an X2 variant?

And if that price tag is right, AMD lost a sale. I know (forgot her name new CEO) said they don't want AMD to be considered bargain brand anymore, but holy cow! If the GTX 980 Ti launches at the old Ti price point (say $700) with 6GBs of VRAM and beats the Fiji XT at the same win/loss ration of rumored Fiji XT vs Titan X. Well, then, AMD just shoots themselves in the foot, again.

You chose a 680 and 780 over comparable AMD cards that had more memory for less money. You were never going to buy the 390X under any circumstances. Unless you learned a valuable lesson from buying those, and only now is memory important.

"The conversation around this issue should be interesting to watch. Much of what Macri said about poor use of the data in GPU memory echoes what Nvidia said in the wake of the revelations about the GeForce GTX 970's funky 3.5GB/0.5GB memory split. If Nvidia makes an issue of memory capacity at the time of the new Radeons' launch, it will be treading into dangerous waters." http://techreport.com/review/28294/amd-high-bandwidth-memory-explained/2

There's a lot more hypocrisy than with the 970. AMD has had a memory advantage ever since 1GB 4870 competed with 896MB 260. Yet legions bought the card with less memory, especially last generation when there was a staggering 1GB gap.

I hope the HMB1 secret sauce makes up for this, and that they can market it. A lot of people will see 4GB and laugh otherwise.

 

[desprado]

Well if NV wants to push vram advantage with GameWorks, they would have to require devs to include 4K textures in their games with an optional 8K texture "Ultra" option. That would completely blow away all 4GB GPUs.

Yes only for 4K though i think GTX 980 Ti ,R9 290X 8GB and Titan X will troll AMD R9 390X at 4K

 

[Kenmitch]

There's no way I am paying $849 USD for a 4GB flagship. I'll wait it out for 14nm stuff if that's the case.

The amount of memory dictates your purchase decision?

Maybe the old saying " It's not the size but how you use it " will come to play....Time will tell.

 

[Silverforce11]

The amount of memory dictates your purchase decision?

Maybe the old saying " It's not the size but how you use it " will come to play....Time will tell.

Yes it does because I'll be on a 4K display and want my GPU to still be able to handle Ultra Texture options in games in 2 years time.

I suspect if they are pricing it $849, then its going to smash Titan X (where custom 980Ti will be at). But certainly time will tell, I look forward to the benchmarks.

 

[Kenmitch]

Yes only for 4K though i think GTX 980 Ti ,R9 290X 8GB and Titan X will troll AMD R9 390X at 4K

Reviews will end the debate. One can safely say crow will be served....Just a matter of who'll be eating it.

 

[LTC8K6]

Confirmed
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-amd-reveals-hbm-future-of-graphics-ram-tech

Gamespot also posted.

Now what i fell is that Nvidia will now focus on more extra quality texture in their sponsored Games so that it has market advantage.

I must have missed it, what was confirmed?

 

[railven]

You chose a 680 and 780 over comparable AMD cards that had more memory for less money. You were never going to buy the 390X under any circumstances. Unless you learned a valuable lesson from buying those, and only now is memory important.

Look at this guy. You don't know me and you're basing your post on my signature, why? But since you want to know my history:

GTX 680 cost $500 to HD 7970 $550 when it launched, GF wanted a GeForce - easy decision.
I actually had a HD 7970. Two of them to be exact. The horrible Microstutter made me abandon CFX. In a fit of insanity I sold my HD 7970's during the bitmine craze (good value in my opinion) and then figured I'd try out the "OMG ITS SO MUCH BETTER" SLI with two GTX 660 Ti's I had which totally sucked (GTX 970 Vram issues made me realize I wasn't crazy when I said I was having VRAM issues trying to load 2GBs on SLI GTX 660 Tis). Sold that and wanted to buy a R9 290 but that there Bitmine craze made them $600+, for a stock model none the less. So, I saw a used Lightning 780 for $420 at my local Microcenter and bought it.

My current solution is to sell of my Lightning, sell of the 680, and get the GF a 970 (her being hardcore NV) and wait for myself until R9 390X (I already said I got a budget of $700) and welp this rumor puts it out of my budget range.

So, want to try re-evaluating my buying habits? Or would you rather just take your foot out of your mouth?

 

[desprado]

Wow

“Nvidia creates PowerPoints and talks in advance like they are the wonderful leader of everything,” Macri said derisively. “While they’re talking, we’re working.”

“We do internal development with partners, we then take that development to open standards bodies and we open it up to the world,” he said. “This is how Nvidia got GDDR3 and how they got GDDR5. This is what AMD does. We truly believe building islands is not as good as building continents.”

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2922...ill-power-its-next-gpus-pokes-nvidia-too.html

 

[Silverforce11]

Wow



http://www.pcworld.com/article/2922...ill-power-its-next-gpus-pokes-nvidia-too.html

True story. NV is very clever, let AMD do all the development then they are gonna reap the benefits of HBM2 when its more mature. heh

 

[destrekor]

Confirmed
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-amd-reveals-hbm-future-of-graphics-ram-tech

Gamespot also posted.

Now what i fell is that Nvidia will now focus on more extra quality texture in their sponsored Games so that it has market advantage.

"initial products"

They may very well launch a 4GB variant, and later in the year release an 8GB model.

And perhaps they won't release the 390X or equivalent at first, and the first few HBM releases will be lesser models or mobile-dedicated products. Thus, initial products won't be 8GB, but their fifth GPU launch or whatever, the top-end 390X, will then be the first to roll out with 8GB.

Who knows. I suspect it'll be 4GB at launch, and sometime around October, they release an 8GB variant.

 

[nvgpu]

Typical AMD employee, slandering & smearing the competitor whenever they can when they're uncompetitive and chose bad memory standard that limits them to 4GB.

 

[stahlhart]

Typical AMD employee, slandering & smearing the competitor whenever they can when they're uncompetitive and chose bad memory standard that limits them to 4GB.

You and raghu78 can go get a room.
-- stahlhart

 

[Cloudfire777]

Ugh

Im gonna have to think long and hard wether I will buy 4GB 390X at $849 or a 12GB Titan X at $999 or 6GB GTX 980Ti at probably $700-800.

HBM is nice and all, but I rather buy Nvidia if 390X wont deliver in the perfornance vs GM200 cards.

Not sure how AMD expect to capture market share with that price. Performance better be stellar.

 

[Silverforce11]

Ugh

Im gonna have to think long and hard wether I will buy 4GB 390X at $849 or a 12GB Titan X at $999 or 6GB GTX 980Ti at probably $700-800.

HBM is nice and all, but I rather buy Nvidia if 390X wont deliver in the perfornance vs GM200 cards.

Not sure how AMD expect to capture market share with that price. Performance better be stellar.

What about this scenario, would you buy a 390X with 4GB vram at $849 if it was 15% faster than Titan X 12GB & custom 980Ti 6GB?

I'm hesitant, 4GB is very non-future-proof at 4K.