Ways to protect yourself in countries with gun control?

Ultima

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I live in Canada, and I don't know all that much about the gun control laws over here but I'm sure they're much more strict than over in the US. I doubt there's many civilians around here running around with concealed guns :)

So, my post is about how do you defend yourself if you get into a confrontation with a gang on the street, robber breaks into your house, etc?? Especially in countries like England where its probably 10x worse? What would you do?

I think what I would do is keep a taser on me. As far as I know, there's no laws governing their use (yet), they're non-lethal (okay, so if the criminal is really pissed he might come back for me, but he'll probably be in jail or something anyway :)), and if you're the do-it-yourself type, they're not that hard to build.

What do you think?
 

Ultima

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What I would like is a taser that looks just like a gun, and has an option to make a loud noise like a gun, except it only stuns them like a tazer ;)
 

Monel Funkawitz

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Canada actually has some pretty lax gun control laws. Go talk to your local gun dealer for more info. You would be supprised what you are able to own. :)

Canada does not have the assault weapon ban we have, so a normal citizen can own our post ban "assault" weapons, new manufacture high cap mags, the works.

You can even have stuff like a crude but effective squirrel rifle.

Forgive my feet for being in the pic, I was in a hurry taking this :D. I have a zillion things to do. I am also cleaning up, hence the 9 zillion gun locks and odd stuff on the floor.
 

b0mbrman

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<< You can even have stuff like (Give me a few minutes to take a pic) >>


I don't think there's anyone I'm more jealous of than this guy :)
 

Ultima

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<< Canada actually has some pretty lax gun control laws. Go talk to your local gun dealer for more info. You would be supprised what you are able to own. :)

Canada does not have the assault weapon ban we have, so a normal citizen can own our post ban "assault" weapons, new manufacture high cap mags, the works.

You can even have stuff like a crude but effective squirrel rifle.

Forgive my feet for being in the pic, I was in a hurry taking this :D. I have a zillion things to do. I am also cleaning up, hence the 9 zillion gun locks and odd stuff on the floor.
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Ha seriously? I thought Canada had stricter gun laws.. I don't know anyone who owns a gun, and I never have. Anyway, homicide/murder rates in our cities are maybe 20% what they are in US cities so there's not as much of a need. I'm pretty sure you can't walk around with a gun ;)

So, I think a gun would be a decent means of protection for the home, and a tazer for the car or whenever you have to go somewhere other than college or a club etc..
 

shortalias

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Well now, countries that have guns available get some strange ideas about countriess where guns are not freely available. I am in England, I have never had a time when I felt I needed a gun. Although we have street crime, it is far less than people abroad imagine! In my 52 years I know of no-one attacked by a gang, who weren't already gang members and I know one person who was attacked who was not in a gang! It is not a problem and you can walk the streets quite happily. At night it needs more care and people usually go in groups. However, the attacks here are no more than in countries that have guns!! If being atacked bothers someone, then just be polite to people, smile and be friendly!! The chances of someone in your home while you are there are pretty remote as the criminal has no wish to risk being seen or caught!! It is not the problem you may imagine! Things do happen, but things happen in ALL countries!
 

sandorski

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You need to store guns in a locked gun case in Canada though. Also, shooting someone for breaking into your home will leave you in a shat load of legal trouble.
 

MikeO

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<< Ways to protect yourself in countries with gun control? >>



My fists are all I've ever needed to protect myself in Finland. In my city (or town) you don't have to fear about getting shot, near nobody has a gun -- I don't know a single person who would own one. One reason I love living here, you can go for a walk at night without fear.

Thank god for gun control.
 

Spike

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really big sword!!! I am not kidding, you can get awesome looking swords with small calibre guns built into the handles :)
 

HamSupLo

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If you're in China, arm yourself with a "chopper". Tuck it in a wad of newspaper and carry it around. You'll be fine.
 
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Here's a copy and paste from another thread a couple months ago:



<< I've been in security/military/law enforcement for about 12 years now. I also have given some community security/safety classes. I have a few things to point out about the security options being mentioned.

1. No device will ever be as important as education. Get a good safety/security class and stay alert. There is no piece of equipment that will help like your own mind.

2. Chemical agents. All the sprays and gasses and such are questionable. They may be better than nothing, but lack of training or understanding makes them more of a liability than an aid. I've been hit with every agent you can name, and ONLY the law enforcement strength foams affect me. Pepper spray, tear gas, canisters, you name it...I will stare you right in the face while you use them, then I'll calmly take them away from you and use them against you. I'm not that uncommon either. Everyone is affected differently by them, but many people (especially under the influence of various drugs) are hardly affected at all. You also have to be able to get the spray into play, and you have to be able to continue functioning after you yourself get some of the backspray and a host of other problems. Sprays really aren't much of anything.

3. Electrical devices. Tazers, stun guns and such are overall more effective than chemicals, WHEN YOU CAN USE THEM. You can't just walk around with it out (brandishing) so you have to have time to get it out and they're usually vairly bulky. Also, many have poor safety systems so you're risking personal injury by carrying them. There are two types, projected and contact. Projected requires distance and a lucky shot to hit the target. These suffer from thick clothing layers of protection. Contact are more powerful, but can easily be taken away from someone without extensive training.
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That case was about one person stalking another, so that changes some things somewhat. If you're worried about running into multiple opponents you have no good options other than fists or running. Either get a dozen years advanced hand to hand training quick, or take track and get really really fast. Try to use any weapon (not including melee weapons here, since they're not an option either) other than a gun against multiple opponents and one will take it while you're using it against another (or just drop you while you're busy).

As for the legality of defense devices, check here:

Canadian Firearm laws and self defense links.

Hope that helps.
 
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Hey, just had another thought...not sure how legal this would be in Canada (in America everyone is so lawsuit happy I'm sure it would come back to bite us in the a$$) but;

carry a dummy grenade around and if any groups start something pull the pin, throw it on the ground and run screaming.

*shrug* hell, it's as good as any other option given the circumstances, might as well try it.
 

Czar

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<< carry a dummy grenade around and if any groups start something pull the pin, throw it on the ground and run screaming. >>


LOL:D

no need for a dummy granade, just find a toy granade that looks close enough, dont think anyone could sue you for that.