watercooling parts help??

[mode1ne]

Hi, i am new to these forums.
I was wondering what cpu block is best for 939 socket. I have at the moment a amd fx-60 no OC.
also i am not so sure what type of rad/pump i should go for. For the moment i will be only cooling the cpu.
I have tried many other forums but havent gotten much help.

I recently bought a coolmaster 830 so space is no issue.

 

[Rike]

Two of the best CPU water blocks available right now are the D-tek FuZion and the Swiftech Apogee GTX. Both will fit your 939 socket although the GTX will need an optional hold down plate. If you don't want to spend quiet that much, a Swiftech Apogee GT would be an excellent choice and give you out of the box compatibility.

For a pump, I'd recommend the Swiftech MCP655/Danger Den DD12V-D5. It's the same pump and it would likely be all you need.

For rads, I'd get a dual rad. Swiftech and Black Ice rads give you good bang for the buck. If you really have money to burn, you could pick up a ThermoChill rad. Swiftech also has a new rad (Swiftech MCR220 QP Res) that is a rad and reservoir together, which could be handy in some cases.

 

[mode1ne]

wow. that rad really will come in handy.
i was looking for a res but this is perfect. so a triple rad would be overkill?

the apogee gt sounds great. 1/2 ID tubing should be good?

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: mode1ne
Hi, i am new to these forums.
I was wondering what cpu block is best for 939 socket. I have at the moment a amd fx-60 no OC.
also i am not so sure what type of rad/pump i should go for. For the moment i will be only cooling the cpu.
I have tried many other forums but havent gotten much help.

I recently bought a coolmaster 830 so space is no issue.

actually space is a very big issue.

How do you want to incorporate your migration? you want a 100% internal solution? or do you mind having the radiator hang out.

That swiftech Res/RAD combo only works if your rad is vertical, mount it horizonal without a tline and your going to have bleeding issues.


Also why are you watercooling if your not overclocked? is your system just too loud? Im kinda lost on your migration need? Are you just looking to have fun?

And do you intend to upgrade blocks? The best block for the S939 is an old block, but it sucks on quadcores, wonderful on Athlons without IHS.

Im talking about storm rev.2

 

[mode1ne]

i would want my rad to hang out.

i am watercooling because i was planning to OC. My system is also pretty loud, you can say all 3 of those things.
i dont intend on upgrading blocks anytime soon. what do you mean by IHS?

as for the rad, what type would be better then since the other has bleeding issues.

 

[Rike]

IHS=Integrated Heat Spreader

It's the metal cover on top of the CPU; usually nickel plated copper. Some people have pried the IHS off to get better contact with the CPU core. I understand that it's somewhat difficult to do and, if it goes badly, your CPU may very well be dead. I would consider it a moderately radical mod and it's not something you need to do by any means. Hard core OCers would consider it if they thought it would help.

As aigomorla mentioned, the swiftech Res/RAD combo only works if your rad is vertical. If that's no problem for you, then it's very handy. You could go with a triple rad. It wouldn't hurt anything and it would give you some extra cooling headroom if you want to add a GPU cooler later. Same brands I mentioned before.

For tubing, go with Masterkleer 7/16" ID-5/8"OD. It's just slightly smaller than 1/2" tubing which gives you a nice tight seal on the barbs and but still gives you almost the same flow. It's a little bit of a pain to get on, but if you have it on all the way, leaks at the barb are highly unlikely.

 

[mode1ne]

I wanted to go with a MCR320 but wanted to see what other people thought.
so on the rad i should have 1/2" metal barbs and some of that Masterkleer tubing for best fit?

in that case what type of res. is good? or are they all about the same.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: mode1ne
I wanted to go with a MCR320 but wanted to see what other people thought.
so on the rad i should have 1/2" metal barbs and some of that Masterkleer tubing for best fit?

in that case what type of res. is good? or are they all about the same.

The MCR320 is the best rad for its price and performance.

BlackICE cant compete against it because unless you go up to the GTX line, all of blackice's rad's are single pass. The MCR series is DUAL PASS.

Now for the block, id get the best universal block. That would be the D-tek Fusion. The GTX is a great block, however the D-tek serves more of a universal role because its less restrictive, and can be upgraded with there accelerator kit.

The Swiftech STorm will beat all these blocks tho on a S939. But thats the only platform it will win in, thats why i asked how soon you look at upgrading your loop.

For now, my recomendation would be something simular to this:

Radiator: MCR320
Res: Swiftech Micro Res
CPU Block: D-tek Fusion
Pump: MCP 655 aka D5 or MCP355 Aka DDC-3.2 /w TOP


I recomend the DDC-3.2 /w top:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/laddcwpeddto.html

This is a more expensive pump combo, however its a lot smaller, and also will help you fit things easier.


Also ive helped people go internal on that case. You just need to be willing to do some cutting on the bottom. If you invert your board, meaning flip it, and the CM830 can do it, you can bottom mount your rad and have everything look sharp internally.

If you need help planning the layout let me know. I'll shoot you some ideas i helped other people with.

 

[mode1ne]

Ok. thnx alot man, sounds like a solid build.
For those 2 pumps which one would be quieter?

I am open to any ideas, both external/internal. I was thinking of mounting on the back but im not too sure. Or maybe inside on the top.

for my coolant i will use pc ice.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: mode1ne
Ok. thnx alot man, sounds like a solid build.
For those 2 pumps which one would be quieter?

I am open to any ideas, both external/internal. I was thinking of mounting on the back but im not too sure. Or maybe inside on the top.

for my coolant i will use pc ice.

inside bottom.

Need to cut the bottom out tho.


Out of the two, the D5 is a tad bit quieter because of its large mass and better housing.

The DDC-3.2 is a lot smaller tho. Heres an estimate:
http://i125.photobucket.com/al...aigomorla/IMG_0856.jpg

Mine has a blue oclabs top. The Petra's top is better tho in durability and performance.

 

[mode1ne]

is it annoyingly loud? also are you comparing the 18w one?

for the bottom cut is there a guide anywhere or pictures?

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: mode1ne
is it annoyingly loud? also are you comparing the 18w one?

for the bottom cut is there a guide anywhere or pictures?

have you ever worked a dremel?

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2140845&enterthread=y

Its a different case tho. Same concept. If you never worked a dremel, that may be a problem.

 

[mode1ne]

yeah iv never used one. I know i have one somewhere around the house.

And i have some crappy old cases i can practice on. So basically i need to do all that but on the bottom?

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: mode1ne
yeah iv never used one. I know i have one somewhere around the house.

And i have some crappy old cases i can practice on. So basically i need to do all that but on the bottom?

correct

And then just lay the radiator down.


Your not running SLI are you?

 

[mode1ne]

no im not.

just figured i would wait a bit more for the 9 series and see how it goes.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: mode1ne
no im not.

just figured i would wait a bit more for the 9 series and see how it goes.

then yeah, a 120x3 will handle a cpu + GPU + board without much problems as long as you stick to core only blocks on the GPU.

 

[DerwenArtos12]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: mode1ne
no im not.

just figured i would wait a bit more for the 9 series and see how it goes.

then yeah, a 120x3 will handle a cpu + GPU + board without much problems as long as you stick to core only blocks on the GPU.

Until the 9X00's come out. The first 9800 will be dual G92's that would require a pair of gpu blocks and will over run your radiator. The follow up 9900's will be a new core and I don't think there are any thermal estimates rolled out yet but, I bet their pretty high.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: mode1ne
no im not.

just figured i would wait a bit more for the 9 series and see how it goes.

then yeah, a 120x3 will handle a cpu + GPU + board without much problems as long as you stick to core only blocks on the GPU.

Until the 9X00's come out. The first 9800 will be dual G92's that would require a pair of gpu blocks and will over run your radiator. The follow up 9900's will be a new core and I don't think there are any thermal estimates rolled out yet but, I bet their pretty high.

yeah... but no numbers mean i cant talk about it because i dont know how they will perform. :T