Water engine

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Bootprint
So it's just a safe version of a Hydrogen car?

You still need electricity to break down the water.

Hydrogen vehicles are completely safe if you're talking about the whole blowing up thing. The "scare" of hydrogen igniting is a crock of sh|t.

Well, if you store it as a compressed gas, there are dangers present that are the same associated with any other compressed gas (cylinder rocket ftw).

Yeah, and gasoline DOES NOT ignite. Worrying about hydrogen igniting is a crock of shjt indeed.

When people hear "hydrogen" they think "hydrogen bomb" and "radiation." Trust me, it's surprising but true in many cases

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: rgwalt

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Bootprint
So it's just a safe version of a Hydrogen car?

You still need electricity to break down the water.

Hydrogen vehicles are completely safe if you're talking about the whole blowing up thing. The "scare" of hydrogen igniting is a crock of sh|t.

If you have to store hydrogen on board the vehicle, then you have to use some sort of gas cylinder. Under the right conditions, if you knock the valve off that cylinder, or it cracks, or is punctured, the hydrogen can self ignite (it has a negative Joule Thompson coefficient room temperature, meaning it heats on expansion).

I would hardly call hydrogen vehicles completely safe *if* you have to store the hydrogen on-board.

R

Anyone else hope ITER is a smashing success?? (pun not intended)

 

[gsellis]

The welder, Ok and flames tend to ignite past the tip so it could stay cool. But I call SHENS on the car. 4 oz to go 100 miles. And it is dual fuel? No. You cannot just convert a car to run on Hydrogen. It is too hot for normal car parts and will burn the pistons up in a heartbeat. And the fuel/air ratio to go that far seems improbable. 3200 mpg. But the electrical cost must be huge. And if it runs on the car battery, double SHENS.

Footnote: Clark Howard specifically mentioned that "alternate fuel" schemes come out of the woodwork when gas prices get high. The quickest way to lose your money.

Oh, and not in TX. That is Clearwater FL.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: gsellis
The welder, Ok and flames tend to ignite past the tip so it could stay cool. But I call SHENS on the car. 4 oz to go 100 miles. And it is dual fuel? No. You cannot just convert a car to run on Hydrogen. It is too hot for normal car parts and will burn the pistons up in a heartbeat. And the fuel/air ratio to go that far seems improbable. 3200 mpg. But the electrical cost must be huge. And if it runs on the car battery, double SHENS.

Footnote: Clark Howard specifically mentioned that "alternate fuel" schemes come out of the woodwork when gas prices get high. The quickest way to lose your money.

Oh, and not in TX. That is Clearwater FL.

they said 4oz of water to go 100 miles, they never mentioned the amount of consumed gasoline, which may have been even more than normal.

 

[BriGy86]

marked for later

 

[WildHorse]

The guy in the water fule video (OP) is suppoedly burning "HHO"

Well that's 2 hydrogen + 1 oxygen, right?

Isn't that just another way of writing H2O, which is also 2 hydrogen + 1 oxygen?

Or does it make a difference if you write out the 2 "H" instead of writing only 1 "H" and subscript "2"?

 

[wfbberzerker]

Originally posted by: scott
The guy in the water fule video (OP) is suppoedly burning "HHO"

Well that's 2 hydrogen + 1 oxygen, right?

Isn't that just another way of writing H2O, which is also 2 hydrogen + 1 oxygen?

Or does it make a difference if you write out the 2 "H" instead of writing only 1 "H" and subscript "2"?

well, HOH implies that there is two hydrogen bonded to one oxygen. HHO implies that a hydrogen is bonded to both one oxygen as well as another hydrogen. this isn't really possible because hydrogen has only one bond point, whereas oxygen has two.

 

[TXHokie]

I knew I should've paid more attention in chemistry class so now I can have an intelligent conversation on ATOT. I only have one question - Deal or No Deal? Sounds like No Deal to me or we wouldn't be paying $3+/gallon.

 

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by: wfbberzerker

Originally posted by: scott
The guy in the water fule video (OP) is suppoedly burning "HHO"

Well that's 2 hydrogen + 1 oxygen, right?

Isn't that just another way of writing H2O, which is also 2 hydrogen + 1 oxygen?

Or does it make a difference if you write out the 2 "H" instead of writing only 1 "H" and subscript "2"?

well, HOH implies that there is two hydrogen bonded to one oxygen. HHO implies that a hydrogen is bonded to both one oxygen as well as another hydrogen. this isn't really possible because hydrogen has only one bond point, whereas oxygen has two.

there you go

 

[SagaLore]

Note that he does say it takes electricity and electrolysis. This water engine is not self powering.

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Bootprint
So it's just a safe version of a Hydrogen car?

You still need electricity to break down the water.

Hydrogen vehicles are completely safe if you're talking about the whole blowing up thing. The "scare" of hydrogen igniting is a crock of sh|t.

Well, if you store it as a compressed gas, there are dangers present that are the same associated with any other compressed gas (cylinder rocket ftw).

Yeah, and gasoline DOES NOT ignite. Worrying about hydrogen igniting is a crock of shjt indeed.

When people hear "hydrogen" they think "hydrogen bomb" and "radiation." Trust me, it's surprising but true in many cases

Nope, they think of hindenburg. Hydrogen gas is extremely flammable, that's why it's used as rocket fuel. I don't know where you get your information from.

 

[Connoisseur]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Bootprint
So it's just a safe version of a Hydrogen car?

You still need electricity to break down the water.

Hydrogen vehicles are completely safe if you're talking about the whole blowing up thing. The "scare" of hydrogen igniting is a crock of sh|t.

Well, if you store it as a compressed gas, there are dangers present that are the same associated with any other compressed gas (cylinder rocket ftw).

Yeah, and gasoline DOES NOT ignite. Worrying about hydrogen igniting is a crock of shjt indeed.

When people hear "hydrogen" they think "hydrogen bomb" and "radiation." Trust me, it's surprising but true in many cases

Nope, they think of hindenburg. Hydrogen gas is extremely flammable, that's why it's used as rocket fuel. I don't know where you get your information from.

So's gasoline buddy. Next time you go to the gas station, whip out the premium, spray it in the air and take a lighter to it. Remember True Lies? The main point is that hydrogen is no more dangerous than gasoline. The biggest problem with hydrogen storage is that its a gas at room temp; thus the necessity for a thicker container to maintain compression.

 

[SampSon]

I love how so many of your fancy yourself to be individuals who have any clue of what you're talking about...

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0


Nope, they think of hindenburg. Hydrogen gas is extremely flammable, that's why it's used as rocket fuel. I don't know where you get your information from.

I like blimps.

:heart:

 

[mb]

There was once a time when humans were most certain that earth was the center of the universe and that earth is flat.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: supafly
There was once a time when humans were most certain that earth was the center of the universe and that earth is flat.

That's before we understood the laws of physics. Now that we know the basics, the only people who choose to completely disregard them are idiots.

 

[FoBoT]

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