Water Cooling Temperature Challenge.

[kamranziadar]

Ok here is my challange to expensive water cooling kits.


I have Thermaltake Big Water SE a low cost challenger $115 shipped.


CPU = Opteron 165 Dual core 1.8ghz @ 2.8ghz

Idle = 30C

Full Load = 43C

what do you got people?

Keep in mind it is dual core and you know dual core generate more heat then a single core.

 

[Greenman]

Since temp diodes vary by as much as 10C your chalange is meaningless. I run high end water and the only time idle ever went below 50C was when I filled it with ice water. And my water block never gets warm to the touch.

 

[kamranziadar]

These temperatures are after checking for whole week, so there is no way they are wrong. I have a nice air flow in my case, but my radiator is sitting above my case.
I want to see the difference between Thermaltake Big Water SE and expensive kits.

If you all would be kind to put your results in and please don;t lie. It is not a challenge really it is just an observation or i should say comparison.

I put the challange in the heading to just attract every one 🙂

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Greenman
Since temp diodes vary by as much as 10C your chalange is meaningless. I run high end water and the only time idle ever went below 50C was when I filled it with ice water. And my water block never gets warm to the touch.

Depends on what you use...to measure temps......
that statement could be said about anything...
theres always a way to explain away bad temps.....

But if a significant amount of other people using the same product and Processor are getting the same temps or in the ball park....

Its a good indicator...

 

[Elfear]

I also agree that the challenge/comparison is meaningless without a common way to check cpu temps. If all of us had temp guns and we could all get the laser at the same spot than it would be a pretty good comparison. I get what you're looking for OP, but with the widely varying diodes on mobos (like Greenman mentioned) I don't think the results are going to mean much. Heck I have a 3200+ at work cooled with a stock hsf that never goes over 32C even at 1.5V.

Do you have any reference temps from a previous air cooler on your same mobo? If you do than someone with a similiar hsf that switched to H20 might be able to give us some good data. For example, switching from an XP-120 with a 103cfm fan to an inexpensive custom watercooling setup dropped my temps at 1.65V by 15C and that's with an X850XT PE in the same loop.

 

[Shimmishim]

agreed.

also, some chips run hotter than others naturally.

unless we get your chip and run it in every one's system, then there's no way to measur eit.

it's been known that asus boards report temps lower than abit boards... so...

this challenge is meaningless

 

[Greenman]

Originally posted by: kamranziadar
These temperatures are after checking for whole week, so there is no way they are wrong. I have a nice air flow in my case, but my radiator is sitting above my case.
I want to see the difference between Thermaltake Big Water SE and expensive kits.

You missunderstood what I said. The diodes that measure the temps are not that accurate, so while it always reports 32c idle, the actual temperature might be anywhere from 25 to 35C.
I've heard good things about the TT Big Water, and there is someone around with two or three of them and he was very happy with them.

 

[Greenman]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: Greenman
Since temp diodes vary by as much as 10C your chalange is meaningless. I run high end water and the only time idle ever went below 50C was when I filled it with ice water. And my water block never gets warm to the touch.

Depends on what you use...to measure temps......
that statement could be said about anything...
theres always a way to explain away bad temps.....

But if a significant amount of other people using the same product and Processor are getting the same temps or in the ball park....

Its a good indicator...

It is a good indicator, but in a system where the difference between good and not very good is only 10C you need to have pretty accurate measurements. So while my system never shows temps below 50, it also never goes higher than 55. My socket temps vary by more than twice that amount, so it has to be wrong. That makes any comparison to other systems usless.

 

[racinjimy]

firstly, nice O/C on that 165

my 175 idles @ 28C load 33C with the IHS off, the IHS removal made about a 5C difference

I also have a GPU in the loop

although I realy like my H2O setup, I would take really good air cooling over the Big Water as its not worth the risk of component damage for cooling I can get with a big typhoon or XP120/XP90C

 

[Nirach]

Thermaltake Aquarius three: CPU AMD 64 Venice 3000+; 28 degrees idle, 36/37 degrees load.

Thermaltake Aquarius three: Graphics Sapphire X800 GTO; 28 degrees idle, 40 degrees load on default settings. O/C 600/600; 39 degrees idle 55 degrees load.

CPU is using the stock AIII cooler, graphics card is using Koolance ATI full card cooler.

 

[kamranziadar]

Any more temperature results from Opteron 165.

 

[Elfear]

OP - Maybe you should list the vcore you're running at since that's more indicative of how much heat your chip's producing than frequency.

 

[daniel1113]

Idle - 24 to 29 C
Load - 36 to 39 C

This is with a loop cooling my 7800GTX, AMD X2 4400+, northbridge, and mosfets.

 

[kamranziadar]

Originally posted by: daniel1113
Idle - 24 to 29 C
Load - 36 to 39 C

This is with a loop cooling my 7800GTX, AMD X2 4400+, northbridge, and mosfets.

What water cooling you are using.

Originally posted by: Elfear
OP - Maybe you should list the vcore you're running at since that's more indicative of how much heat your chip's producing than frequency.

Well my Vcore is at 1.5

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: kamranziadar

Originally posted by: daniel1113
Idle - 24 to 29 C
Load - 36 to 39 C

This is with a loop cooling my 7800GTX, AMD X2 4400+, northbridge, and mosfets.

What water cooling you are using.

Koolance INX-720SL radiator/resevior
Danger Den NV-78 on the 7800GTX
Danger Den TDX on the X2
Danger Den Maze 4 on the Northbridge
No name block on the MOSFETs

I should also mention that everything is running at stock speeds, except for the video card which is sleightly overclocked, and I keep my radiator fans at about half speed.

 

[kamranziadar]

Umm then your temperature looks high if every thing is running on stock speeds. If i run mine on stock speed then my temperature never go above 33C under any type of load.

 

[biostud]

It depends on my roomtemperature and fan speed. I prefer low noise so my 120mm fans runs @ 6V, which would be around 600rpm.

I ran 2.65Ghz 1.45V + GPU @ 510 + chipset, temperatures are measured after running some hours as the water need to absorb some heat before actual idle tempereature can be measured.

CPU 35/45
GPU 36/45

when I turn on the system the CPU is around 32C and the GPU 28C.

the radiator is the black ice pro and the CPU cooler is an Antarctica.

When I run my fans on 12V the temperature drops 2-3C.

 

[Ripper294]

Expose 2 premounted on V1000 lian LI case
P4 670@ 4.4GHz Storm water block
Abit AW8 N/B heat pipe
X1800Xl @ 625 core 650 memory Maze 4 water block
CPU idle 24C Load 29-32.
GPU idle 26C Load 33-36, series(loop)
Cost of case and Expos 2 $486.

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: kamranziadar
Umm then your temperature looks high if every thing is running on stock speeds. If i run mine on stock speed then my temperature never go above 33C under any type of load.

Not really, considering my fans are running and an inaudible level and I am in a single room dorm with no AC. My room is generally is the mid to high 80s. Of course, none of this really matters, because my machine has never gone above 40 C and I am not concerned at all about overclocking the CPU or getting any extreme cooling. I went with watercooling to keep my system quiet (I sleep in the same room as my computer) and at reasonable temps.