Water cooled RAM

[Nirach]

I know it's out there, but I can't find it, despite googling it and sifting through close on ten pages of crap.

The only stuff I have ever seen is http://www.ocmodshop.com/default.aspx?a=249 and to be honest, that looks like ccomplete crap, because it knocks you down to being able to use two sticks at most.

My question is, does anyone know of anything better than this, or where I could have my own designs made in copper?

Reason being, I'm sat here with a pencil and paper and thinking I could do a better job than the above linked stuff, with my limited knowledge and drawing skills.

 

[JEDIYoda]

why do you need to water cool ram??

 

[Jimmah]

Make your own using an aluminum block, drill some holes through it and press in some copper tube, or just thread it and away you go. You could also use copper capillary tube, about 5 across, have a main inlet/exit tube about 1/8" ID and thats all. Really it doesn't take much to keep them very cool, I've seen a homemade setup with some very nice aluminum blocks and compression tubing, really cool looking.

 

[HardWarrior]

The only RAM water-cooling I've seen has been DIY and clunky as hell. Since just a bit of air over your stick(s) is enough, even under the most extreme of circumstances, you probably won't be seeing any OEM jumping in unless something changes with RAM.

 

[Messudieh]

Yeah. There is really no reason to water cool your RAM (or even really actively cool it in most cases) because RAM isn't generally limited by heat. If you want to do it for the 'I've done it' feeling of pride, then by all means go for it! You will most likely not see any sort of improvement though.

 

[mcbarnet007]

just find the biggest ramsink you can find and stick a 120mm fan infront of it. I use 1 90mm and 1 80mm and they are cool to the touch with 3.4v on UTT.

I got the big mofos from frozencpu.com but their site is down now so no linky.

 

[Cheezeit]

your ram will never get that hot. Even if you watercool it for ocing the benifits are not woth it. you guys are such fanboys of alien takeover cases 😛

 

[Nirach]

Oh, I know there will be no actual benefit, but I just want to do it for the sake of it, for the 'Ha, I did it' thing. There is no other real reason, because I don't intend to overclock it much, if at all.

 

[Ken90630]

Anyone know how I can water cool my floppy disk drive? I'm lying awake every night in a cold sweat 'cuz I just can't bear the thought that maybe ... just maybe ... somehow ... it could be running too hot or something. I've just GOT to take preventive measures, and there's nothing more worthwhile in this life for me to spend my time and money on.

:evil:



Sorry ... I just couldn't resist. 😀

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: Nirach
Oh, I know there will be no actual benefit, but I just want to do it for the sake of it, for the 'Ha, I did it' thing. There is no other real reason, because I don't intend to overclock it much, if at all.

I can appreciate that. Hit OCforums for some design ideas. The are more than a few malignant know-it-alls there. Don't let them discourage you. Post the link to the thread here and I'll try to help. My logon name is "Perseus."

 

[tbooth]

Running RAM at higher voltages most definitely requires active cooling. In fact the Mushkin Redline XP4000 that I have states that "Active Coolling is Required" to run at the rated speed/voltage.

Aqua Computer makes a RAM waterblock called the Ramplex.

 

[Unkno]

Edit: Nvm, deleted

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: tbooth
Running RAM at higher voltages most definitely requires active cooling. In fact the Mushkin Redline XP4000 that I have states that "Active Coolling is Required" to run at the rated speed/voltage.

Aqua Computer makes a RAM waterblock called the Ramplex.

BS. Even high voltage RAM doesn't absolutely need HS's on it. THere are merely there for aesthetic appeal.

OP while i know it would be cool to do, but designing your own RAM WCing isn't the smartest cool thing to do. It is very risky. Perhaps if you are hell bent on doing this pick up some old SDRAM DIMM and test on that rather than wasting the somewhat more expensive DDR and DDR2 DIMMS.

-Kevin

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: tbooth
Running RAM at higher voltages most definitely requires active cooling. In fact the Mushkin Redline XP4000 that I have states that "Active Coolling is Required" to run at the rated speed/voltage.

Aqua Computer makes a RAM waterblock called the Ramplex.

active cooling means some sort of fan blowing air onto the ram.

also active coling could even be a minute amount of air from the CPU fan.....

It is not talking about water cooling.

I would like to water cool my harddrives though...

 

[Mrvile]

Haha...although it's pretty pointless, that thing is pretty pimp. I could see that in my case 😀

 

[tbooth]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: tbooth
Running RAM at higher voltages most definitely requires active cooling. In fact the Mushkin Redline XP4000 that I have states that "Active Coolling is Required" to run at the rated speed/voltage.

Aqua Computer makes a RAM waterblock called the Ramplex.

active cooling means some sort of fan blowing air onto the ram.

also active coling could even be a minute amount of air from the CPU fan.....

It is not talking about water cooling.

I would like to water cool my harddrives though...

Yes, I understand that it doesn't mean water cooling, I was just trying to illustrate that in fact there is RAM that requires additional cooling. While the CFMs suggested to cool my Mushkin RAM sufficiently are very low (15-25cfm), there are people who put water blocks on everything with a fan to get rid of fan noise. I completely agree with you that water cooling RAM is not required for RAM of any kind, however, I don't think that in certain situations it is unnecessary. 🙂 Plus water cooling is fun and it looks cool 😉.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: tbooth

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: tbooth
Running RAM at higher voltages most definitely requires active cooling. In fact the Mushkin Redline XP4000 that I have states that "Active Coolling is Required" to run at the rated speed/voltage.

Aqua Computer makes a RAM waterblock called the Ramplex.

active cooling means some sort of fan blowing air onto the ram.

also active coling could even be a minute amount of air from the CPU fan.....

It is not talking about water cooling.

I would like to water cool my harddrives though...

Yes, I understand that it doesn't mean water cooling, I was just trying to illustrate that in fact there is RAM that requires additional cooling. While the CFMs suggested to cool my Mushkin RAM sufficiently are very low (15-25cfm), there are people who put water blocks on everything with a fan to get rid of fan noise. I completely agree with you that water cooling RAM is not required for RAM of any kind, however, I don't think that in certain situations it is unnecessary. 🙂 Plus water cooling is fun and it looks cool 😉.

No cooling is required for RAM. When was the last time you saw someone post that "My RAM overheated"!?!?

-Kevin

 

[tbooth]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: tbooth

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: tbooth
Running RAM at higher voltages most definitely requires active cooling. In fact the Mushkin Redline XP4000 that I have states that "Active Coolling is Required" to run at the rated speed/voltage.

Aqua Computer makes a RAM waterblock called the Ramplex.

active cooling means some sort of fan blowing air onto the ram.

also active coling could even be a minute amount of air from the CPU fan.....

It is not talking about water cooling.

I would like to water cool my harddrives though...

Yes, I understand that it doesn't mean water cooling, I was just trying to illustrate that in fact there is RAM that requires additional cooling. While the CFMs suggested to cool my Mushkin RAM sufficiently are very low (15-25cfm), there are people who put water blocks on everything with a fan to get rid of fan noise. I completely agree with you that water cooling RAM is not required for RAM of any kind, however, I don't think that in certain situations it is unnecessary. 🙂 Plus water cooling is fun and it looks cool 😉.

No cooling is required for RAM. When was the last time you saw someone post that "My RAM overheated"!?!?

-Kevin

On normal nonoverclocked memory, yes no cooling is required. However, when overclocking you limit your top speed by having RAM at higher temps.

From Mushkin:

Active Cooling Required *----Due to the extreme speed of these modules along with the added voltages used, Mushkin requires end users to Actively cool their memory modules. Modules that are not properly cooled will/may not meet rated timings and speeds, and may become susceptible to premature failure.

 

[Gamingphreek]

I will guarantee you that you do not need RAM cooling. It is purely aesthetic. I can run my RAM at 4.0V (i cant but hypothetically) and it would simply get warm. There is no need for active RAM cooling. Hell there is no need even for RAM sinks.

-Kevin

 

[tbooth]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
I will guarantee you that you do not need RAM cooling. It is purely aesthetic. I can run my RAM at 4.0V (i cant but hypothetically) and it would simply get warm. There is no need for active RAM cooling. Hell there is no need even for RAM sinks.

-Kevin

From the Anandtech review of the Mushkin XP4000:

However, Mushkin states that Active Memory cooling must be used with Redline modules for overclocking, and we agree.

In our own test bed, we mount a 90mm fan over the DIMMs for extra cooling. With the extra voltage required for best performance with Mushkin Redline or OCZ VX, you will find the memory erroring after about 5 minutes unless you provide additional cooling.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: tbooth

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
I will guarantee you that you do not need RAM cooling. It is purely aesthetic. I can run my RAM at 4.0V (i cant but hypothetically) and it would simply get warm. There is no need for active RAM cooling. Hell there is no need even for RAM sinks.

-Kevin

From the Anandtech review of the Mushkin XP4000:

However, Mushkin states that Active Memory cooling must be used with Redline modules for overclocking, and we agree.

In our own test bed, we mount a 90mm fan over the DIMMs for extra cooling. With the extra voltage required for best performance with Mushkin Redline or OCZ VX, you will find the memory erroring after about 5 minutes unless you provide additional cooling.

Ok i meant no active cooling or passive on the memory itself. You do need some airflow in your case. There is no need for active cooling on memory.

As i said before, when was the last time you heard someone say "RAM OVERHEATING..NEED HELP" or something similar. Exactly, the dont because it doesn't happen.

-Kevin

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
I will guarantee you that you do not need RAM cooling. It is purely aesthetic. I can run my RAM at 4.0V (i cant but hypothetically) and it would simply get warm. There is no need for active RAM cooling. Hell there is no need even for RAM sinks.

-Kevin

I see this is rapidly turning into the Video forum.

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Ok i meant no active cooling or passive on the memory itself. You do need some airflow in your case. There is no need for active cooling on memory.

If you have to point a fan at something for best results, whatever it is is being actively cooled. You were wrong.

As i said before, when was the last time you heard someone say "RAM OVERHEATING..NEED HELP" or something similar. Exactly, the dont because it doesn't happen.

If your RAM was overheating how would you know for sure unless you were running memtest or something similar? More than likely overheated memory would cause intermittant problems, just like any other FRU or board component.

 

[TheoPetro]

about that "warm to the touch" thing. im putting (i think cant remember off hand) ~2.7 through mine and its vary warm when i touch the heatsinks. im thinken 4 would most likely kill my ram. im not talken about kinda warmer than room temp. im talking almost hot. i dont see how active cooling your ram could do anything but help it. be it helping it in longevity (sp? ive been up for 32 hrs) or in OC potential.

 

[Gamingphreek]

about that "warm to the touch" thing. im putting (i think cant remember off hand) ~2.7 through mine and its vary warm when i touch the heatsinks.

Well there is something wrong. They should feel "pleastantly warm".

If you have to point a fan at something for best results, whatever it is is being actively cooled. You were wrong.

YOU DONT HAVE TO.

I see this is rapidly turning into the Video forum.

Why simply because i posted here.

As i said before, HS's are understandable for >~3.3V operation. However, there is absolutely no need for actuve ram cooling. Perhaps at 4V it may become hot, but still not hot enough to warrant a seperate fan to cool memory.

-Kevin