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BigJ

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Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Gurck
Lol, a friend of mine eats more fast food than that guy and weighs 150 pounds at 6'2"... For the rest of us though, there's nothing wrong it in moderation. I think the movie pushes the growing notion in this country that everything is someone else's fault. Can't fault the guy for making a quick buck I guess.
Healthy externally != Healthy internally
Not very healthy to live in fear of enjoying yourself either, like I said, moderation is where it's at.

I was talking about your friend that you say eats more fast food than the guy in Supersize Me.
 

MrChad

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Originally posted by: Gurck
Lol, a friend of mine eats more fast food than that guy and weighs 150 pounds at 6'2"... For the rest of us though, there's nothing wrong it in moderation. I think the movie pushes the growing notion in this country that everything is someone else's fault. Can't fault the guy for making a quick buck I guess.

Did you watch the movie? It deals with both sides of the issue -- both personal and corporate responsibility. I thought it was good and very entertaining. You would be amazed at how many inner city kids have no idea how bad McDonald's is for you and how often they eat it.
 

MrChad

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Aug 22, 2001
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Originally posted by: blazert40
I'm not saying I'm never going to eat fast food again, I just saying that I realize that I make a poor effort at cooking a well balanced meal either due to not knowing how to cook what I'd want or lack of time.

This made me give it more thought.

:thumbsup:

It had the same effect on me. Cooking for yourself really isn't that difficult, and I never enjoy that feeling in your stomach after a McDonald's meal. I still eat fast food, but I'm definitely reminded of that movie every time I pass a fast food joint.
 

aplefka

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Originally posted by: lnguyen
Originally posted by: blazert40
Originally posted by: aplefka
I don't get why people watch this movie and don't realize that he went to such an extreme to achieve that affect.

That's like saying if someone stops eating altogether for 30 days, of course they're going to get really unhealthy, but does it mean that eating less to try to lose weight is unhealthy?

The problem isn't that America is obese, it's that 95% of us aren't intelligent enough.

That sure is being stereotypical.

it's partially true. the other half of it is we're all too damned lazy.

It's not being stereotypical at all, it's damn true. Our schools don't even come close in comparison with even some countries in Central/South America.

And another good point was brought up by lnguyen; many Americans are too lazy.
 

misle

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Originally posted by: Mr Smiley
Originally posted by: ZOXXO
There was a piece on my local TV station on a guy that ate at McDonalds for the past few months and lost 50 pounds.

Simply put, it's up to you.

Thats funny because there was something on my local news about a man who ate McDonald for 2 months and he got extremely sick and he was put in a hospital for a week or so. And Im not making that up.

A year or two ago, Men's Health had an article about fast food. They put one of their editors on an "Only McDonalds" diet to see if you could eat decently at McDonalds. So he ate three meals a day there and kept his normal routine. At the end of the month, he had lost 2 lbs.

They concluded that you can eat relatively decently there, but you have to watch what you eat and how much you eat.

The Supersize Me guy purposefully over ate and didn't exercise.
 

MrChad

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Originally posted by: misle
Originally posted by: Mr Smiley
Originally posted by: ZOXXO
There was a piece on my local TV station on a guy that ate at McDonalds for the past few months and lost 50 pounds.

Simply put, it's up to you.

Thats funny because there was something on my local news about a man who ate McDonald for 2 months and he got extremely sick and he was put in a hospital for a week or so. And Im not making that up.

A year or two ago, Men's Health had an article about fast food. They put one of their editors on an "Only McDonalds" diet to see if you could eat decently at McDonalds. So he ate three meals a day there and kept his normal routine. At the end of the month, he had lost 2 lbs.

They concluded that you can eat relatively decently there, but you have to watch what you eat and how much you eat.

The Supersize Me guy purposefully over ate and didn't exercise.

He admitted that his actions were extreme, but his level of activity was typical of an average American.

I don't think he intended his experiment to be scientific. I think he just wanted to demonstrate how unhealthy McDonald's was.
 

andylawcc

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Originally posted by: MrChad
You would be amazed at how many inner city kids have no idea how bad McDonald's is for you and how often they eat it.

that's just survival of the fittest. even if corporate america is making poisonous food to the public, YOU as a consumer still have all the right Not to eat it. for those who don't know, I would just say "sucks for you."
 

MrChad

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Originally posted by: andylawcc
Originally posted by: MrChad
You would be amazed at how many inner city kids have no idea how bad McDonald's is for you and how often they eat it.

that's just survival of the fittest. even if corporate america is making poisonous food to the public, YOU as a consumer still have all the right Not to eat it. for those who don't know, I would just say "sucks for you."

:roll:

How about we educate them on how to eat a healthy diet so that don't develop health problems like diabetes and suck away tax money for treatment?
 

andylawcc

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Originally posted by: misle
A year or two ago, Men's Health had an article about fast food. They put one of their editors on an "Only McDonalds" diet to see if you could eat decently at McDonalds. So he ate three meals a day there and kept his normal routine. At the end of the month, he had lost 2 lbs.

The Supersize Me guy purposefully over ate and didn't exercise.

and how many Americans would actually "keep a normal routine" of excersing while eating McDonalds. I would a person who has a normal excerising routine would probably not eat at McDonalds, and vice versa. so the Men's Health experiment is quite pointless on a realistic level; on the research level however, it does prove that McD can be not as harmful as SuperSize Me depicts.
 

andylawcc

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Originally posted by: MrChad
How about we educate them on how to eat a healthy diet so that don't develop health problems like diabetes and suck away tax money for treatment?

if I had my way, fat people do not deserve medicial treatment. they should pay for their own treatment to mend their own mistake.
 

Kipper

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Originally posted by: andylawcc
Originally posted by: MrChad
How about we educate them on how to eat a healthy diet so that don't develop health problems like diabetes and suck away tax money for treatment?

if I had my way, fat people do not deserve medicial treatment. they should pay for their own treatment to mend their own mistake.

Some people are fat as a result of genetics, bone structure and physical size. There are many people out there who simply cannot lose weight, no matter how much they try and no matter how well they eat. There's a fine line between fat and obese, however.

Sumo wrestlers are fat, but a majority of their body mass is muscle. They may weigh 350 pounds but a lot of them are in phenomenal physical shape (think football player).
 

eakers

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any person that binge eats like that for a month is gonna get sick. its terrible. fast food is bad for you but so are many of the items people pull off the shelves at grocery stores.
 

schdaddy

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It?s sad that our nation?s education regarding nutrition is so poor.
Before attending med school I had no idea what a calorie really was (just like the movie pointed out) or how to read the Nutritional Facts label.

If I would have watched this movie prior to med school, it would have taught me more in 1 ½ hours than all my years attending health class in public school.


I?ll agree that he did go to the ?extreme? to prove his point and that by simple moderation the effects of fast food can be avoided. BUT what does the average person consider moderation? Many would say 1 meal/day which is still too much. That is the real problem. People eating large quantities of sugar & fat EVERY meal ? plain & simple.

The best point of the movie was showing the disgusting habit of feeding slop to school children. Schools need to be a beacon of both excellent nutrition & excellent education ? especially regarding personal health. They provide 2 out of the 3 meals to our children Mon-Fri ? feeding kids sh!t like pizza, soda, candybars, etc is irresponsible & detrimental.


RANT OVER

sorry but when I see several patients a day & more than half of their problems are related to being undereducated lazy pigs ? it gets to ya
 

andylawcc

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Originally posted by: MadCowDisease
Some people are fat as a result of genetics, bone structure and physical size. There are many people out there who simply cannot lose weight, no matter how much they try and no matter how well they eat. There's a fine line between fat and obese, however.

I know, I was being unrealistic....
 

LethalWolfe

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Originally posted by: MrChad
Originally posted by: misle
Originally posted by: Mr Smiley
Originally posted by: ZOXXO
There was a piece on my local TV station on a guy that ate at McDonalds for the past few months and lost 50 pounds.

Simply put, it's up to you.

Thats funny because there was something on my local news about a man who ate McDonald for 2 months and he got extremely sick and he was put in a hospital for a week or so. And Im not making that up.

A year or two ago, Men's Health had an article about fast food. They put one of their editors on an "Only McDonalds" diet to see if you could eat decently at McDonalds. So he ate three meals a day there and kept his normal routine. At the end of the month, he had lost 2 lbs.

They concluded that you can eat relatively decently there, but you have to watch what you eat and how much you eat.

The Supersize Me guy purposefully over ate and didn't exercise.

He admitted that his actions were extreme, but his level of activity was typical of an average American.

I don't think he intended his experiment to be scientific. I think he just wanted to demonstrate how unhealthy McDonald's was.

It wasn't an experiment it was propaganda. I think it's a pretty safe assumption that eating around 5x the amount of calories a "normal" American male should eat w/o exercising will result in making you fat and unhealthy. It doesn't make a damn bit of difference where those calories come from (McDonald's, a 4 star restaurant, or your own kitchen).

I agree w/the point the guy was trying to make about people not understanding about the quality of food they typically consume and it's possible long term ill-effects. But his way of "showing" that point was so ludicrous it's hard not to call BS on it and discount what he is trying to say.

It's like showing a 90 minute movie of graphic car crashes and saying, "Beware! This is what will happen when you drive a car!." When in reality it's more like, "This is what might happen if you drive a car like a completely idiot."


Lethal
 

Landroval

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Originally posted by: Gurck
Lol, a friend of mine eats more fast food than that guy and weighs 150 pounds at 6'2"... For the rest of us though, there's nothing wrong it in moderation. I think the movie pushes the growing notion in this country that everything is someone else's fault. Can't fault the guy for making a quick buck I guess.


Just because he's not fat does not mean he is in good health. But I do agree that people need to stop blaming others and take responsibility... No one is forcing them to eat crap.
 

Gurck

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Originally posted by: BigJ
I was talking about your friend that you say eats more fast food than the guy in Supersize Me.
Oh :eek:
Originally posted by: MrChad
Did you watch the movie? It deals with both sides of the issue -- both personal and corporate responsibility. I thought it was good and very entertaining. You would be amazed at how many inner city kids have no idea how bad McDonald's is for you and how often they eat it.
I sorta watched it :p I was doing other things, neffing, etc. I have a hard time believing anyone is quite that naive though. Maybe people are surprised at just *how* much fat/calories are in a big mac - I certainly was - however no one but an utter moron could have an "omg, it's not health food?!?" response. Anyone unsure would have simply to watch their waistline and what happens to it when they're eating too much fast food and not exercising enough, it's no mystery what the most common causes of weight gain are... Where does personal responsibility come into play?
 

SludgeFactory

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It was entertaining. I was surprised that he was asked if he wanted supersize less than half the time (IIRC). They used to *always* ask that, heh heh.

I think I'd get to where just the smell of McD's grease would make me sick to my stomach after about 5 days of it. And I especially couldn't handle all the breakfasts, throwing down a grease bomb in the AM just makes me like feel like sh!t all day long.

Originally posted by: Gurck
Where does personal responsibility come into play?
yeah that was the way he wrapped the movie up. Ultimately it's your own choice.
 

villageidiot111

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Food is only one aspect of America's obesity problem. Not only has the fast food business taken off, but exercise has gone way down, and food portions has gone up. Sure, McDonald's doesn't help the situation, but it is not the root of the problem.
 

Mo0o

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I was disguted when i saw it, then abuot 2 weeks later is started eating mcdonalds again. As long as you work out and dont eat it everyday it's really not that big of a deal.