Watchdogs2 benchmarks

Head1985

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GTX1070 is 2% faster than 980TI(Both aftermarket).This is first time i see aftermarket 1070 faster than 980TI.Big surprise for me.
Rest is without surprise.Its gameworks so AMD is slow.
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http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Watch-Dogs-2-Spiel-55550/Specials/Test-Review-Benchmark-1214553/
 

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Performance looks lackluster based on the chart. Going to return my 1080 and keep the 980 ti Im getting from amazon on Wednesday. 1080ti is looking much more appealing as times go by.
 
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In that 1440p result, the aftermarket 1080 is only 21% faster than the aftermarket 980 Ti. At 4K, that lead shrinks to a measly 16% (the 1070 falling ever so slightly behind the 980 Ti).

Pascal so far has been okay for people looking for 980 Ti and 980 performance at a couple hundred dollars cheaper and stuff, but it's really time for Nvidia to stop milking that 1080 and release a REAL 980 Ti successor already imo. The gains just aren't there for those who own it yet... unless you pay $1200, which is insane.

Bring on the real next-gen gains already Nvidia. :(
 

Head1985

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In that 1440p result, the aftermarket 1080 is only 21% faster than the aftermarket 980 Ti. At 4K, that lead shrinks to a measly 16% (the 1070 falling ever so slightly behind the 980 Ti).

Pascal so far has been okay for people looking for 980 Ti and 980 performance at a couple hundred dollars cheaper and stuff, but it's really time for Nvidia to stop milking that 1080 and release a REAL 980 Ti successor already imo. The gains just aren't there for those who own it yet... unless you pay $1200, which is insane.

Bring on the real next-gen gains already Nvidia. :(
Nv is like intel with p4.Frequency dont work.I tested GTX1070 from 1500-2150mhz and that card stopped scaling at 1700-1800mhz.
At 1500mhz its still faster than GTX980 at 1500mhz.At 1900mhz its only like 15% faster(but 1900mhz vs 1500 is 26%)

Same with GTX1080 at 1900mhz it should be 35% faster than GTX980TI at 1350mhz.But its only 16%.
 
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Scored a 980ti classified for 350 after taxes. I don't like the 1070 and the price I paid for the 1080 is becoming much more harder to justify as new game benchmarks comes out. I'll just hold onto the 980ti for another year or less and see what nvidia has to offer next gen.
 
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the GTX 1060 3GB is getting hit badly due to its VRAM capacity. GTX 1060 6 GB is slightly faster than Rx 480.

quote from review
"Tested settings, which includes the HD texture pack, watch dogs 2 requires plentiful graphics memory." "For the Optional Ultra HD texture pack that buyers of the game as free DLC can obtain, the developers recommend a graphics card with at least 6 GiByte RAM.

Mabe that's why 3gb vram is falling short?
Ultra settings and HD TEXTURE PACK and @ 1440p?
I would not expect the game to run fast with my 3gb 1060 with these settings.

The 3gb 1060 does seem a little slow @ 1080p also, but not much slower than a Fury X, and the 480 is faster than a fury x @ 1080p?

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Watch-Dogs-2-Spiel-55550/Specials/Test-Review-Benchmark-1214553/
 
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I love how they included 3440x1440 results. That resolution is becoming more and more popular so its cool to see those included. And yeah, the mid range refresh characteristics of the 1070/1080 are very clear at this point. Sound like more people are starting to see that the gaming experience is basically the same or similar between 980ti/1070/1080. The only card that will offer a different or better experience is the Titan X, and to be pretty honest, even that card is only barely fast enough to make a substantial difference. The entire Pascal line is simply a Maxwell refresh from top to bottom. I may consider a 1080ti if the price isn't stupid, but we all know what to expect there. It will be quite stupid.
 

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I love how they included 3440x1440 results. That resolution is becoming more and more popular so its cool to see those included. And yeah, the mid range refresh characteristics of the 1070/1080 are very clear at this point. Sound like more people are starting to see that the gaming experience is basically the same or similar between 980ti/1070/1080. The only card that will offer a different or better experience is the Titan X, and to be pretty honest, even that card is only barely fast enough to make a substantial difference. The entire Pascal line is simply a Maxwell refresh from top to bottom. I may consider a 1080ti if the price isn't stupid, but we all know what to expect there. It will be quite stupid.
We knew pascal was a refined Maxwell though.

If amd and Nvidia released this whole generation day 1 I think we'd have a different take on it. Because it was staggered out like this and it's taken do long, it feels like we got 0 increase in performance for 2016. That's miserable.
 
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We knew pascal was a refined Maxwell though.

If amd and Nvidia released this whole generation day 1 I think we'd have a different take on it. Because it was staggered out like this and it's taken do long, it feels like we got 0 increase in performance for 2016. That's miserable.

That's the nature of the milking process. This whole generation smells like sour, overpriced milk.
 

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So happy I don't have fury x. I couldn't handle seeing charts like this.

Eh if you got it on clearance sale recently maybe it isn't so bad. I hope no one paid full price for one when we all knew the 980 ti was better.

I am shocked how much the 970 is beating the 3GB 1060.
 
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Eh if you got it on clearance sale recently maybe it isn't so bad. I hope no one paid full price for one when we all knew the 980 ti was better.

I am shocked how much the 970 is beating the 3GB 1060.

Mabe the additional 1gb of vram makes a difference
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Eh if you got it on clearance sale recently maybe it isn't so bad. I hope no one paid full price for one when we all knew the 980 ti was better.

I am shocked how much the 970 is beating the 3GB 1060.
No, if I had paid $280 I still couldn't handle that. That's why I couldn't do it. Because Fiji has days like this and it's so embarrassing I just can't do it. At least when I picked up a used 290 it was a good gpu with a bad release.
Fiji is just bad, it's bad, I've stated it so many times, if I then owned fury x after all of that to see charts like this?

I couldn't do it.

I'm happy I held out. Either way if you're with amd your life sucks at the high end. At least you shouldn't put yourself through the insane Fiji performance to only get gimp ed by 4gb vram. Was that even addressed in this article? How is Fiji managing when it should need more vram for textures?

Edit: fury x would have been $275 for me. $330 + rebate + Amex deal.
 
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Fury family once again showing lackluster performance - VRAM limitation? Wouldn't surprise me if RX 480 is faster in the next titles. Nice showing for GTX 1060 6GB and GTX 1070.
 
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I need Volta to get here ASAP. Titan X isn't enough for 144hz 1440p games of the future it seems and I'm not going to deal with crap multi GPU scaling in major titles just to get the performance I want in titles like Watch Dogs 2.
 
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Overall takeaway: The Fury X is erratically-performing garbage (as objective people and Nvidia-lovers alike have known for a year and a half now) likely due to either its weak front-end and/or VRAM (and at other times due to CPU overhead). Contrary to the former rallying call of a few particular defenders, it is not aging better than the real 980 Ti (ie. aftermarket). It's even experiencing a bit of a Kepler effect relative to the 480 where its geometry throughput is stressed.

Meanwhile, 3 GBs of VRAM is really meh these days (4 GBs is next) and I really can't find any justification for the 3 GB 1060. It's just not right. $200+ cards should never be VRAM-limited so soon after release, imo.

Meanwhile actual AMD competitors to GM200/GP104 are still no-shows, let alone GP102. And GP104 masquerading as the flagship GPU, in combination with its high prices, is really getting boring. After all the 16/14nm hype, the 980 Ti provided a bigger performance jump from the 980 while still on 28nm than the 1080 did over the 980 Ti. And Nvidia gets rewarded for it with record profits while AMD are clearly outclassed and no longer a threat, so why would they even bother giving us impressive gains for reasonable prices again?

2016 sucked for high-performance microprocessors (including CPUs).
 

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