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[iRONic]

Originally posted by: Ulfwald

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Question:

Shouldn't the mods be be held to some kind of guideline to what they can post under their personal account? I'm all for speaking one's mind but I do also believe that a mod should be setting an example for all to follow.

Maybe being a supervisor has got me into that realm of thinking..

We already hold ourselves to a higher standard. That is why we were selected as moderators to begin with. And yes, we are being held to one now, and even more so since we are no longer hidden.

Ahahaha!

There's empirical evidence in this thread your first statement is false and a written admission that there are two hidden mods. But, whatever...

 

[Regs]

Mean mod? Where are you?



Either just a persona or a symbol, I love that guy to death.

 

[pennylane]

My world has just turned upside down.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Ulfwald

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Question:

Shouldn't the mods be be held to some kind of guideline to what they can post under their personal account? I'm all for speaking one's mind but I do also believe that a mod should be setting an example for all to follow.

Maybe being a supervisor has got me into that realm of thinking..

We already hold ourselves to a higher standard. That is why we were selected as moderators to begin with. And yes, we are being held to one now, and even more so since we are no longer hidden.

Your joking right? The only standard that has existed for mods here is that they can and have done anything they wanted to. No offense to the mods that have done a good job, but there have been significant problems with moderation here in the past.

These new rules hold promise and there were many people wanting such moderation reforms years ago and were basically scolded or threatened with bans for bring it up. However the fact that a mod can have alter ego leaves the mods able to pull the same shenanigans they did the past, so I dont expect much to change here.


If you want to rebuild trust and good will, release those mods that have conflicts and unban those who were unfairly permabanned. IT is time to admit there were major mistakes made in moderation of these forum.

 

[Evadman]

Originally posted by: iRONic
a written admission that there are two hidden mods. But, whatever...

There are zero hidden mods. All mods have an account that ties to them, and them only. All mods are held accountable by HQ, and always have been. Logs keep track of all bannings, vacations, and thread/post modifications. The major difference now is you, and all other members, know which mod performed an action.

 

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: Evadman

Originally posted by: iRONic
a written admission that there are two hidden mods. But, whatever...

There are zero hidden mods. All mods have an account that ties to them, and them only. All mods are held accountable by HQ, and always have been. Logs keep track of all bannings, vacations, and thread/post modifications. The major difference now is you, and all other members, know which mod performed an action.

And, it is even better than the Mod 1, Mod 2, Mod 3... idea that a lot of people liked.


EDIT: For those saying that having two of the mods hidden is BS, well I have a question? Why would you care what their actual account is other than to harass them. Now they have an account and you will know what moderation they have done, if you were banned by them etc...

 

[Regs]

I don't mean to be a kiss ass or anything...

I'd say the mods did a damn good job. There might of been a clash of personalities or ideas from time to time. Though I was wise enough, and patient enough to just stay out of the way of the turning wheels that make this place work.

Stick your finger at the cogwheels, you will definitely feel a pinch. I never had a problem with authority before. I work for a major corporation where humility and respect are very valuable traits.


People get too personal here. Which is why Anand thought it would be a good idea to hide moderators identities for their own sake. As the site grew, the populous of the members became more mixed, forums became more divergent, and while a moderators job was never a walk in a park, I think it became evident that the current system of moderation was becoming a burden.

So I'm happy to see you guys in your own persona for once. I all ready feel like I should...grow a little older on here.

 

[Oceandevi]

Make Moonbeam a mod.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Evadman

Originally posted by: iRONic
a written admission that there are two hidden mods. But, whatever...

There are zero hidden mods. All mods have an account that ties to them, and them only. All mods are held accountable by HQ, and always have been. Logs keep track of all bannings, vacations, and thread/post modifications. The major difference now is you, and all other members, know which mod performed an action.

thats being nick picky. there are still hidden mods. just now they have a name but still a hidden persona.

 

[Lola]

Wow... i miss this all today...

I am rather excited to see the list as there has always been (rather humorous) speculation about this issue.

Not gonna say much but thanks all Mods for posting.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra

Originally posted by: Evadman

Originally posted by: iRONic
a written admission that there are two hidden mods. But, whatever...

There are zero hidden mods. All mods have an account that ties to them, and them only. All mods are held accountable by HQ, and always have been. Logs keep track of all bannings, vacations, and thread/post modifications. The major difference now is you, and all other members, know which mod performed an action.

And, it is even better than the Mod 1, Mod 2, Mod 3... idea that a lot of people liked.


EDIT: For those saying that having two of the mods hidden is BS, well I have a question? Why would you care what their actual account is other than to harass them. Now they have an account and you will know what moderation they have done, if you were banned by them etc...

Because it allows a mod an alter ego. One to post with and one to ban with. I have experienced this behavior before from a mod that accidentally(i would assume) sent the moderation email from his personal account.

 

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra

Originally posted by: Evadman

Originally posted by: iRONic
a written admission that there are two hidden mods. But, whatever...

There are zero hidden mods. All mods have an account that ties to them, and them only. All mods are held accountable by HQ, and always have been. Logs keep track of all bannings, vacations, and thread/post modifications. The major difference now is you, and all other members, know which mod performed an action.

And, it is even better than the Mod 1, Mod 2, Mod 3... idea that a lot of people liked.


EDIT: For those saying that having two of the mods hidden is BS, well I have a question? Why would you care what their actual account is other than to harass them. Now they have an account and you will know what moderation they have done, if you were banned by them etc...

Because it allows a mod an alter ego. One to post with and one to ban with. I have experienced this behavior before from a mod that accidentally(i would assume) sent the moderation email from his personal account.

If you read this thread you can see the situation has changed considerably and I doubt things like that will be happening in the future.

 

[iRONic]

Originally posted by: Evadman

Originally posted by: iRONic
a written admission that there are two hidden mods. But, whatever...

There are zero hidden mods. All mods have an account that ties to them, and them only. All mods are held accountable by HQ, and always have been. Logs keep track of all bannings, vacations, and thread/post modifications. The major difference now is you, and all other members, know which mod performed an action.

You know exactly what I meant.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
This explains how Compuwiz1 got away with the 'Seven things you cannot say on AT' thread. (Like I didn't know, but anyhow!)

This actually explains how many posts by certain "members" have been allowed to remain.

 

[Evadman]

Originally posted by: iRONic
You know exactly what I meant.

Of course I did. And my answer addressed it. You may not like the answer, but it is the answer nonetheless. We appreciate all the feedback but we feel this is the best way to move forward.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats

Originally posted by: Safeway
I thought the point of revealing the identities of the moderators was to force some accountability. If that is true, why are certain mods still cloaking their identity?

RossMAN? Mosh?

I agree...either the mods should go public or should have resigned. Creating an alternate account IMO is hypocrtical.

Does it really matter? I know it doesn't, to me. At the end of the day mods are mods. They are there, watching us. Does it really matter if you know who they are or not?

it only matters because of the big deal made about revealing their identities To reveal all but a select few is hypocritical IMHO.

Welcome to ATOT, you must be new here.

 

[Michael]

Most of the mod list was zero surprise for me.

If I never got banned for going after them in threads (like Harvey, Perknose and Red Dawn occassionally), then I don't think them being public will make much difference. I actually think that this will make the forums much better and result in freer posting and expressions of opinions. I can guarantee that, people being people, there have been many instances where mods didn't use the best judgement in how they moderated someone. Now they have to think twice as their name will be their in public for all to see.

Michael

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: Evadman

Originally posted by: iRONic
You know exactly what I meant.

Of course I did. And my answer addressed it. You may not like the answer, but it is the answer nonetheless. We appreciate all the feedback but we feel this is the best way to move forward.

You mean like

Only one account is allowed per person.
From our pool of regular members, we will invite a number to participate on the forums as moderators.
In addition to these changes, all moderator identities will be public.

But hell, I was just reading what some Derek Wilson guy posted. You must have the more current info.

 

[Safeway]

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: Evadman

Originally posted by: iRONic
You know exactly what I meant.

Of course I did. And my answer addressed it. You may not like the answer, but it is the answer nonetheless. We appreciate all the feedback but we feel this is the best way to move forward.

You mean like

Only one account is allowed per person.
From our pool of regular members, we will invite a number to participate on the forums as moderators.
In addition to these changes, all moderator identities will be public.

But hell, I was just reading what some Derek Wilson guy posted. You must have the more current info.

We have already established that the mods say they follow the rules 100% but don't. It's old news, get over it!

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: Safeway

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: Evadman

Originally posted by: iRONic
You know exactly what I meant.

Of course I did. And my answer addressed it. You may not like the answer, but it is the answer nonetheless. We appreciate all the feedback but we feel this is the best way to move forward.

You mean like

Only one account is allowed per person.
From our pool of regular members, we will invite a number to participate on the forums as moderators.
In addition to these changes, all moderator identities will be public.

But hell, I was just reading what some Derek Wilson guy posted. You must have the more current info.

We have already established that the mods say they follow the rules 100% but don't. It's old news, get over it!

But pointing out the hypocrisy is so much fun

 

[JEDI]

Originally posted by: Juno

Originally posted by: Ulfwald
the kinky mod is only let out on friday nights, and if the moon is full, and there is a fresh wet trout, handcuffs, and a weed eater.

but...it came on me last saturday night...

oh man.. did you just open yourself up....... :Q

Originally posted by: Ulfwald

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Ulfwald
the kinky mod is only let out on friday nights, and if the moon is full, and there is a fresh wet trout, handcuffs, and a weed eater.

I need to meet the kinky mod, personally. :lips:

what you don't know is its ulfwald in a dress with garters! (i got pics if you want!)

oui don't want ot know what he does with the trout, handcuffs and weed eater..isgust;

Oh, but I do....

I can introduce you to the real kinky mod. Mr. Ben Dover

I like his movies, especially the one where she's in a ball gag, and he reams her w/o lube. She's biting down HARD on that little ball...

Or was that a Max movie?

 

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Safeway

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: Evadman

Originally posted by: iRONic
You know exactly what I meant.

Of course I did. And my answer addressed it. You may not like the answer, but it is the answer nonetheless. We appreciate all the feedback but we feel this is the best way to move forward.

You mean like

Only one account is allowed per person.
From our pool of regular members, we will invite a number to participate on the forums as moderators.
In addition to these changes, all moderator identities will be public.

But hell, I was just reading what some Derek Wilson guy posted. You must have the more current info.

We have already established that the mods say they follow the rules 100% but don't. It's old news, get over it!

But pointing out the hypocrisy is so much fun

And you guys wonder why you get such harsh treatment moderation wise. Stay out of the way of the moderator, he stays out of your way also. Stir up crap like you are now and you are on their radar. Can you really be that dense? You guys sound like 5 year olds whining about the 2 hidden mods when you should be greatfull they have come this far and are even accepting feedback. I know how it is on other forums where mods really are biased and really will ban you for arguing with them over the slightest thing. God forbid you neg a mod (rating system) at bb.com, except an IP ban the next minute, even if he insulted you.

 

[Sinsear]

Originally posted by: Oceandevi
Make Moonbeam a mod.

I can't understand 1/2 of what he posts now

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra

Originally posted by: Evadman

Originally posted by: iRONic
a written admission that there are two hidden mods. But, whatever...

There are zero hidden mods. All mods have an account that ties to them, and them only. All mods are held accountable by HQ, and always have been. Logs keep track of all bannings, vacations, and thread/post modifications. The major difference now is you, and all other members, know which mod performed an action.

And, it is even better than the Mod 1, Mod 2, Mod 3... idea that a lot of people liked.


EDIT: For those saying that having two of the mods hidden is BS, well I have a question? Why would you care what their actual account is other than to harass them. Now they have an account and you will know what moderation they have done, if you were banned by them etc...

Because it allows a mod an alter ego. One to post with and one to ban with. I have experienced this behavior before from a mod that accidentally(i would assume) sent the moderation email from his personal account.

If you read this thread you can see the situation has changed considerably and I doubt things like that will be happening in the future.

Maybe it has, maybe it has not. Given past behavior from the mods, please forgive me for being a skeptic.

 

[JEDI]

Originally posted by: Michael
Most of the mod list was zero surprise for me.

If I never got banned for going after them in threads (like Harvey, Perknose and Red Dawn occassionally), then I don't think them being public will make much difference. I actually think that this will make the forums much better and result in freer posting and expressions of opinions. I can guarantee that, people being people, there have been many instances where mods didn't use the best judgement in how they moderated someone. Now they have to think twice as their name will be their in public for all to see.

Michael

Michael
Senior Member
Posts: 4012
Joined: 11/19/1999

4k posts and still "Senior Member"?

WTF?