Wasn't Hitler actually a democrat-socialist instead of a corporatist?

[Anarchist420]

Just like people say Obama is a socialist, when he's a actually a corporatist, people say that Hitler was a coporatist when he was actually a socialist.

Didn't Hitler actually take over the industry and have everything run by the state? I was always under the impression that he hated fascism.

 

[cubby1223]

What? Hitler was a fascist who hated communism. Nazi = National Socialism

 

[MotF Bane]

ffs

 

[her209]

I guess you could say Hitler was pro-military spending.

:biggrin:

 

[Kirby]

OP, does your mom know you're on the computer this much?

 

[Genx87]

Hitler's party started off as Socialist. Once they gained power by spreading that msg to the common people while working back room deals with private industry. He killed off the socialists in his party and from an economic standpoint looked more fascist. Yes the state did own\run some industry but it looked more like a heavily regulated fascist economy. With private industry recieving govt contracts and being paid with public funds under govt's watch.

btw I agree Obama is not a socialist. But like Bush a corporatist. Both idelogies are collectivist though.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Hitler liked to start unnecessary wars.

 

[werepossum]

Hitler was a national socialist, but also a fascist. His nationalism and his fascism dwarfed his socialism, at least after he assumed ultimate power. He did continue many socialist policies, but mainly in pursuit of his fascist, ultranationalist goals. His fascism did share the Socialists' and Communists' predilection toward the rule of men rather than the rule of law, but that's parallel political evolution; any ruler with ultimate power always substitutes the rule of men rather for the rule of law.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Hitler liked to start unnecessary wars.

Just like Anarchist420 Loves to start unnecessary idiotic threads....

 

[sandorski]

Hitler's party started off as Socialist. Once they gained power by spreading that msg to the common people while working back room deals with private industry. He killed off the socialists in his party and from an economic standpoint looked more fascist. Yes the state did own\run some industry but it looked more like a heavily regulated fascist economy. With private industry recieving govt contracts and being paid with public funds under govt's watch.

btw I agree Obama is not a socialist. But like Bush a corporatist. Both idelogies are collectivist though.

What?

 

[Slick5150]

Hitler believed in a strong centralized government, but was in no way a "socialist".

 

[Anarchist420]

Ah, okay. Thanks for the kind and informative replies

 

[Anarchist420]

I always thought it was kind of funny how Hitler was always farting. He was said to have had terrible IBS.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

when will this walking bag of puke get banned already for starting idiotic threads for trolling purposes only. And you don't deserve any actual answer to any question.

SEE SIG

If we banned every idiot in P&N, this would be a pretty empty forum.

bamacre (Forum Director)

 

[woolfe9999]

Who ever said Hitler is a "corporatist"? Hitler was a fascist.

So far as him being a socialist, I suggest that the OP actually crack a book or two and read up on Hitler's relationship not only with the communists, but with the Social Democrat party (SPD - the liberal party) who ruled the country during the Weimar years. You might also discover what the "socialism" in "national socialism" really meant (not much to Hitler himself, but did have meaning to some other party members, the ones who were ousted and/or killed.)

I honestly think some people have trouble understanding what fascism is these days because they don't understand how it fits in to the modern ideological continuum. Honestly, it isn't worth discussing the matter with people who haven't taken the time to read their history.

- wolf

 

[Anarchist420]

when will this walking bag of puke get banned already for starting idiotic threads for trolling purposes only. And you don't deserve any actual answer to any question.

See sig

stfu and get out of my thread. You are a troll yourself for trying to derail a thread.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

wwybywb?

Way too much troll in this one to be a noob with <400 posts

 

[ElFenix]

What?

right, it was a so-called third way between capitalism and the usual international socialism.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

stfu and get out of my thread. You are a troll yourself for trying to derail a thread.

BWAAAA HAHAHAHAHAHA. Right, ok troll. You post inane questions about hypothetical situations that you can subtly imply Obama's doing. Ok, not so subtly, but still..
I hope computer time at the state facility is up soon.

 

[Blintok]

Hitler liked to start unnecessary wars.

Liberals were too pussy to stop him when it was easy to do

 

[Macabre215]

Hitler believed in a strong centralized government, but was in no way a "socialist".

As long as he was in power he did.

 

[Macabre215]

Liberals were too pussy to stop him when it was easy to do

Neville Chamberlain was conservative, and he was one of the biggest softies on foreign policy that's directly involved; it wasn't a matter of being a "pussy", but was a matter of putting too much trust in Hitler. If Adolf had only taken parts of Europe back that were recently Germany, and were dominated by German speaking people, then I believe WWII either wouldn't have happened or would have been seriously delayed. The mess that ended up becoming WWII, was caused by ignorance from bother "Liberals" and "Conservatives" after WWI. Hell even the mess in Vietnam would have been avoided if Wilson, and the other leaders of the Allies, had taken the time to hear what Ho Chi Minh had to say. Instead the French figuratively put their fingers in their ears, and didn't want to release control of what was then Indochina; so the British and U.S. followed suit.

So don't say "Liberals" were the reason Hitler wasn't stopped, it was collective ignorance, and a lack of perspective.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Hitler = Dictator, overcompensating shorty.

 

[Perknose]

So much fail in this thread, starting with the OP.

No, Genx87, Hilter's party did NOT "start off socialist", then change in power. READ A FUCKING HISTORY BOOK! The Nazi's BIGGEST street battles and fiercest enemies in all the years and years before they came to power were with the real socialists and the communists!

And, NO, OP, Hitler actually didn't "take over the industry and have everything run by the state", you ignorant ahistorical twerp! AGAIN, READ A FUCKING HISTORY BOOK!

All the major German industries remained in private hands throughout the goddamned war. IN FACT, if you read a little you'd KNOW that part of the US's war production advantage over the Germans was the GREATER AND MORE COORDINATED CONTROLAN AND OVERSIGHT BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT over war production than Germany achieved!

Sometimes, the stupidity and basic historical ignorance here amazes me.

 

[Macabre215]

So much fail in this thread, starting with the OP.

No, Genx87, Hilter's party did NOT "start off socialist", then change in power. READ A FUCKING HISTORY BOOK! The Nazi's BIGGEST street battles and fiercest enemies in all the years and years before they came to power were with the real socialists and the communists!

And, NO, OP, Hitler actually didn't "take over the industry and have everything run by the state", you ignorant ahistorical twerp! AGAIN, READ A FUCKING HISTORY BOOK!

All the major German industries remained in private hands throughout the goddamned war. IN FACT, if you read a little you'd KNOW that part of the US's war production advantage over the Germans was the GREATER AND MORE CENTRALIZED CONTROL BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT over war production than Germany achieved!

Sometimes, the stupidity and basic historical ignorance here amazes me.

This is one of the many reasons why Roosevelt was erroneously labeled a "communist and socialist". It's vaguely similar to what's going on right now; not that Obama is FDR by any means, because he's not. Obama is much more of a corporatist than what morons like the tea party realize.