Washington Times - U.S. SAYS IRAN HARBORS AL QAEDA 'ASSOCIATE'

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A top al Qaeda associate in Iraq has fled to neighboring Iran, where he and several senior al Qaeda leaders apparently remain under the protection of the Iranian government, U.S. intelligence officials tell Bill Gertz at WASHINGTON TIMES on Tuesday... MORE... Abu Musab al-Zarqawi fled Iraq within the past several weeks and is in Iran, the officials claim... Developing...
 

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Originally posted by: WHSLacrossekid
A top al Qaeda associate in Iraq has fled to neighboring Iran, where he and several senior al Qaeda leaders apparently remain under the protection of the Iranian government, U.S. intelligence officials tell Bill Gertz at WASHINGTON TIMES on Tuesday... MORE... Abu Musab al-Zarqawi fled Iraq within the past several weeks and is in Iran, the officials claim... Developing...

OK, thats a reasonable place for them to live. Iran is no worse than Pakistan. So should we invade Iran to arrest them or start diplomatic negotiations with the Cleric or Secular leadership.
 

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Originally posted by: WHSLacrossekid
A top al Qaeda associate in Iraq has fled to neighboring Iran, where he and several senior al Qaeda leaders apparently remain under the protection of the Iranian government, U.S. intelligence officials tell Bill Gertz at WASHINGTON TIMES on Tuesday... MORE... Abu Musab al-Zarqawi fled Iraq within the past several weeks and is in Iran, the officials claim... Developing...


Us intelligence is a joke. I don't believe them.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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OK, thats a reasonable place for them to live. Iran is no worse than Pakistan. So should we invade Iran to arrest them or start diplomatic negotiations with the Cleric or Secular leadership.

Invade . . . Iran doesn't have nukes, yet. I imagine they will put up more of a fight than Saddam, though.
 

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Originally posted by: WHSLacrossekid
A top al Qaeda associate in Iraq has fled to neighboring Iran, where he and several senior al Qaeda leaders apparently remain under the protection of the Iranian government, U.S. intelligence officials tell Bill Gertz at WASHINGTON TIMES on Tuesday... MORE... Abu Musab al-Zarqawi fled Iraq within the past several weeks and is in Iran, the officials claim... Developing...

That makes no sense. The Iranian fanatics and the Taliban fanatics hated each other. Bin Laden's ideology matches the Talibans. Al-Qaeda will find no support in Iran. This is more flawed logic... my 2 enemies must be friends.
 

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Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
OK, thats a reasonable place for them to live. Iran is no worse than Pakistan. So should we invade Iran to arrest them or start diplomatic negotiations with the Cleric or Secular leadership.

Invade . . . Iran doesn't have nukes, yet. I imagine they will put up more of a fight than Saddam, though.

I sure hope we choose to opt for a more diplomatic approach. I think alot of this propaganda is to get a sense of the nation for further action. Iran would not have the oil to support the venture so I don't see the payoff other than the "New Century" thingi. But, who knows maybe the WMD are there.

 

sandorski

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Yaa, invade Iran, then the "Associate" will flee to Syria. Invade Syria, then he'll flee to North Korea. Invade North Korea, the he'll flee to[insert nation of choice].
 

LunarRay

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Yaa, invade Iran, then the "Associate" will flee to Syria. Invade Syria, then he'll flee to North Korea. Invade North Korea, the he'll flee to[insert nation of choice].

As long as they stay the heck away from me I'll be happy. Terrorists are like roaches.. if you see one there be millions hiding in the walls.

 

BaliBabyDoc

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I sure hope we choose to opt for a more diplomatic approach. I think alot of this propaganda is to get a sense of the nation for further action. Iran would not have the oil to support the venture so I don't see the payoff other than the "New Century" thingi. But, who knows maybe the WMD are there.

Diplomacy with whom? You cannot call people evil and then expect a civil discussion. The US/Iran relations were slowly but surely thawing during the previous administration. I would NOT contend that a Gore administration would produce better outcomes . . . but there would certainly be a dialogue. Other than shooting people . . . diplomacy is all we have. This administration's diplomacy sux.
 

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Invade North Korea, the he'll flee to[insert nation of choice].
Canada?

j/k ;)

What's an al queda "associate" anyway? Is that like a Fashion Associate? "Abdul, your aim is poor but damn you be stylin' in those fatigues!"

I find it more plausible to find al Q in Iran. He probably went home.
 

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Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
I sure hope we choose to opt for a more diplomatic approach. I think alot of this propaganda is to get a sense of the nation for further action. Iran would not have the oil to support the venture so I don't see the payoff other than the "New Century" thingi. But, who knows maybe the WMD are there.

Diplomacy with whom? You cannot call people evil and then expect a civil discussion. The US/Iran relations were slowly but surely thawing during the previous administration. I would NOT contend that a Gore administration would produce better outcomes . . . but there would certainly be a dialogue. Other than shooting people . . . diplomacy is all we have. This administration's diplomacy sux.


We simply deny we called them evil or that it was in response to they're calling us evil. So two devils discuss a mutual situation. We want the terrorist so he won't bomb us and if we get them we won't bomb them... seems fair and ought to engender confidence in our efforts at peace. Just a threat.. we won't really bomb them. We're out of JDAM's and MOAB's.
 

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Originally posted by: Tabb
Originally posted by: halik
ummm i think bush will have hard time creating more wars at this time...

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/06/09/sprj.irq.alqaeda/

Yea, I am sure Al Qaeda Operatives are going to tell us the truth about their operations ;) As for going to Iran, they both see the US as evil. They've got no reason not help a fellow 'fighter'

This is the flawed reasoning I mentioned before.
Example: 2 people hate you. Does that mean that they must be friends? Of course not.
They won't "team up" when their ideologies conflict, even though they have a common enemy. Al-Qaeda is a Sunni Islamic terrorist group when Iran is a Shi'ite Islam state.
 
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I suspect Iran is next on the list regardless. We won't be able to set up a democracy in Iraq with any staying power without doing something about Iran. One good thing about Iraq having a ruthless dictator like Sadam running things, he was able to keep the Islamic fundies from taking over. As precarious as it was, I still think we would have been better off not disturbing that equilibrium.
 

Zrom999

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Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
I suspect Iran is next on the list regardless. We won't be able to set up a democracy in Iraq with any staying power without doing something about Iran. One good thing about Iraq having a ruthless dictator like Sadam running things, he was able to keep the Islamic fundies from taking over. As precarious as it was, I still think we would have been better off not disturbing that equilibrium.

EXACTLY!
 

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Originally posted by: WHSLacrossekid
A top al Qaeda associate in Iraq has fled to neighboring Iran, where he and several senior al Qaeda leaders apparently remain under the protection of the Iranian government, U.S. intelligence officials tell Bill Gertz at WASHINGTON TIMES on Tuesday... MORE... Abu Musab al-Zarqawi fled Iraq within the past several weeks and is in Iran, the officials claim... Developing...

Uh oh...beat the drum slowly, Beavis...we haven't finished with the 2nd war.
 

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Here we go again
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Linflas

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I wouldn't get too excited about that since it shares the above the fold space in that same newspaper with this little tidbit:

Iran agrees Iraq hid arms
An Iranian government official with ties to Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei says Tehran sides with the Americans on one big issue ? Saddam Hussein's weapons.

 

etech

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Originally posted by: Zrom999
Originally posted by: Tabb
Originally posted by: halik
ummm i think bush will have hard time creating more wars at this time...

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/06/09/sprj.irq.alqaeda/

Yea, I am sure Al Qaeda Operatives are going to tell us the truth about their operations ;) As for going to Iran, they both see the US as evil. They've got no reason not help a fellow 'fighter'

This is the flawed reasoning I mentioned before.
Example: 2 people hate you. Does that mean that they must be friends? Of course not.
They won't "team up" when their ideologies conflict, even though they have a common enemy. Al-Qaeda is a Sunni Islamic terrorist group when Iran is a Shi'ite Islam state.

The Soviet Union was our ally in WWII. They were supplied with guns and supplies to defeat our common enemy.
 

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Originally posted by: WHSLacrossekid
A top al Qaeda associate in Iraq has fled to neighboring Iran, where he and several senior al Qaeda leaders apparently remain under the protection of the Iranian government, U.S. intelligence officials tell Bill Gertz at WASHINGTON TIMES on Tuesday... MORE... Abu Musab al-Zarqawi fled Iraq within the past several weeks and is in Iran, the officials claim... Developing...

I'd like to point out this is from a "newspaper" run by the moonies. They're even less believable than Bush and he probably had something to do with planting the story there in the first place. He needs all the help he can get. He's so desparate now that even includes the Washington Times. Pitiful.
 

Zrom999

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Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: Zrom999
Originally posted by: Tabb
Originally posted by: halik
ummm i think bush will have hard time creating more wars at this time...

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/06/09/sprj.irq.alqaeda/

Yea, I am sure Al Qaeda Operatives are going to tell us the truth about their operations ;) As for going to Iran, they both see the US as evil. They've got no reason not help a fellow 'fighter'

This is the flawed reasoning I mentioned before.
Example: 2 people hate you. Does that mean that they must be friends? Of course not.
They won't "team up" when their ideologies conflict, even though they have a common enemy. Al-Qaeda is a Sunni Islamic terrorist group when Iran is a Shi'ite Islam state.

The Soviet Union was our ally in WWII. They were supplied with guns and supplies to defeat our common enemy.

So that means al-Qaeda and Iran MUST be allies right? Even though they despise each other they will ally together right?
Since you want to use history: The Soviet holdouts and Ukrainian rebels both resisted German occupation during WW2 but they were NOT allies. A brutal 3 way war raged between them until the Soviets pushed the Germans out. But this like your example is irrevelant.
If you really know anything about about the Iranians and al-Qaeda you would know that it would be highly unlikely that they will ally especially when Iran knows that they will only cause them unwanted trouble. Iran also supported groups that resisted the Taliban rule in Afganinstan. Iran is a problem to the region, there is no doubt about that. Its links to terrorism are quite clear unlike Iraq. But to claim that Bin Laden and the Ayatolla are working together is nonsense.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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But to claim that Bin Laden and the Ayatolla are working together is nonsense.

We are in bed with Pakistan and our #1 non-Western Hemisphere trading partner is China (a paragon of human rights) . . . so why is it so hard to believe other countries are not equally duplicitous?