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Washington player throws basketball right into UCLA guy's face

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Originally posted by: Andy22
Originally posted by: UncleWai
Originally posted by: Andy22
I saw it and thought it was completely bush league and a BS play. He could have just as easily thrown it off his leg. There is no excuse for that imo.

No they need to do it more often. I never like the idea of not having a rule on the distance between inbound pass and a defender. An inbound pass should be of the advantage of the inbounder, not some fat boy standing right next to the inbounder.

Um, it's called an out-of-bounds line. Defender can not step over it or it is a technical in college. There should be no advantage to either side. One person is throwing the ball in and one is defending it. Defending the ball...it's the way basketball has been played since the peach baskets went up.

Wait til they jump up in the air, throw it off their boys...repeat as necessary until they back up(Longest Yard style)
 
Originally posted by: slayer202
Originally posted by: purbeast0
the OP has apparently never played bball on an organized team. this kind of thing is common, however typically it's thrown at the knees or legs. however usually you can read your opponent when he does it since he has to look down.

when's the last time someone through the ball off the other guys face in the NBA or college? It is a bit different than throwing off a leg...

oh so that makes it illegal?

sure its poor sportsmanship however it's not illegal.
 
Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: slayer202
Originally posted by: purbeast0
the OP has apparently never played bball on an organized team. this kind of thing is common, however typically it's thrown at the knees or legs. however usually you can read your opponent when he does it since he has to look down.

when's the last time someone through the ball off the other guys face in the NBA or college? It is a bit different than throwing off a leg...

oh so that makes it illegal?

sure its poor sportsmanship however it's not illegal.

I don't think anyone is questioning the legality of it...at least as far as I can see. Just that it's a BS play.
 
Originally posted by: Andy22
Originally posted by: UncleWai
Originally posted by: Andy22
I saw it and thought it was completely bush league and a BS play. He could have just as easily thrown it off his leg. There is no excuse for that imo.

No they need to do it more often. I never like the idea of not having a rule on the distance between inbound pass and a defender. An inbound pass should be of the advantage of the inbounder, not some fat boy standing right next to the inbounder.

Um, it's called an out-of-bounds line. Defender can not step over it or it is a technical in college. There should be no advantage to either side. One person is throwing the ball in and one is defending it. Defending the ball...it's the way basketball has been played since the peach baskets went up.

Exactly, an inbounder passing a hard pass at the direction of the defender's face who is facing right next to the inbound line is fair play as well. Morally speaking may not be nice, but it is perfectly legal for the inbounder to do it. If the ball is thrown to the defender like that and the defender is standing a little further away from the inbounder, then it would have been a free gift to the defender to catch it.
 
Intentionally throwing a ball off an opponents body to retain possession dates back to about 10 seconds after the game of basketball was invented. It's done every day at every level and is taught by coaches. Using the face is the only odd part, it's a small target. You normally go for the legs.
 
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Originally posted by: UncleWai
Originally posted by: Andy22
Originally posted by: UncleWai
Originally posted by: Andy22
I saw it and thought it was completely bush league and a BS play. He could have just as easily thrown it off his leg. There is no excuse for that imo.

No they need to do it more often. I never like the idea of not having a rule on the distance between inbound pass and a defender. An inbound pass should be of the advantage of the inbounder, not some fat boy standing right next to the inbounder.

Um, it's called an out-of-bounds line. Defender can not step over it or it is a technical in college. There should be no advantage to either side. One person is throwing the ball in and one is defending it. Defending the ball...it's the way basketball has been played since the peach baskets went up.

Exactly, an inbounder passing a hard pass at the direction of the defender's face who is facing right next to the inbound line is fair play as well. Morally speaking may not be nice, but it is perfectly legal for the inbounder to do it. If the ball is thrown to the defender like that and the defender is standing a little further away from the inbounder, then it would have been a free gift to the defender to catch it.

by stepping back you give the inbounder better vision and the ability to make an easier pass. Not really the best idea when you're pressuring the ball
 
Originally posted by: Andy22
Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: slayer202
Originally posted by: purbeast0
the OP has apparently never played bball on an organized team. this kind of thing is common, however typically it's thrown at the knees or legs. however usually you can read your opponent when he does it since he has to look down.

when's the last time someone through the ball off the other guys face in the NBA or college? It is a bit different than throwing off a leg...

oh so that makes it illegal?

sure its poor sportsmanship however it's not illegal.

I don't think anyone is questioning the legality of it...at least as far as I can see. Just that it's a BS play.

Actually yes they are.... read the OP's post:
HTf is this not illegal? Obviously the intent was strategical here, but you should not be allowed to slam a ball right into a guy's face--his nose nonetheless--because you can't find an open teammates. Getting an Nba ball thrown onto your nose with enough force so that he can't react in time is the equivalent of if simply sucker punching a guy right there. Had this taken on any sort of street game, the guy who threw the pass would be in the hospital now.

He's CLEARLY questioning the legality of the play. And thus purbeast defended it.
It's ENTIRELY legal. Horrible sportsmanship? Yes. Legal? Yes. Smart? Pretty much.
 
Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Originally posted by: UncleWai
Originally posted by: Andy22
Originally posted by: UncleWai
Originally posted by: Andy22
I saw it and thought it was completely bush league and a BS play. He could have just as easily thrown it off his leg. There is no excuse for that imo.

No they need to do it more often. I never like the idea of not having a rule on the distance between inbound pass and a defender. An inbound pass should be of the advantage of the inbounder, not some fat boy standing right next to the inbounder.

Um, it's called an out-of-bounds line. Defender can not step over it or it is a technical in college. There should be no advantage to either side. One person is throwing the ball in and one is defending it. Defending the ball...it's the way basketball has been played since the peach baskets went up.

Exactly, an inbounder passing a hard pass at the direction of the defender's face who is facing right next to the inbound line is fair play as well. Morally speaking may not be nice, but it is perfectly legal for the inbounder to do it. If the ball is thrown to the defender like that and the defender is standing a little further away from the inbounder, then it would have been a free gift to the defender to catch it.

by stepping back you give the inbounder better vision and the ability to make an easier pass. Not really the best idea when you're pressuring the ball

Er.... yeah. What UncleWai is saying is that while it is a legal tactic to stand right in front of the guy who is inbounding the ball, it can be countered by the legal tactic of inbounding the ball off his face. And in fact, UncleWai encourages it. If everyone inbounded the ball off the defender's face, then defenders would step back and it'd be easier to inbound the ball.
 
The play is totally legal but if you watch the video, the washington player threw it way too hard. If his intend was to get the ball in or buy more time then it's all good but he did not have to bring his arm back and throw it at the ucla player's face that hard. He wasn't trying to save the ball or anything. They shoulda call something on him. It's like going over and throwing the ball the coach or any other player, oh I was just trying to pass it .... ppsh!
 
Originally posted by: mugs
Er.... yeah. What UncleWai is saying is that while it is a legal tactic to stand right in front of the guy who is inbounding the ball, it can be countered by the legal tactic of inbounding the ball off his face. And in fact, UncleWai encourages it. If everyone inbounded the ball off the defender's face, then defenders would step back and it'd be easier to inbound the ball.

then I guess I misunderstood what he was getting at (not that easy to read)
 
Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: Andy22
Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: slayer202
Originally posted by: purbeast0
the OP has apparently never played bball on an organized team. this kind of thing is common, however typically it's thrown at the knees or legs. however usually you can read your opponent when he does it since he has to look down.

when's the last time someone through the ball off the other guys face in the NBA or college? It is a bit different than throwing off a leg...

oh so that makes it illegal?

sure its poor sportsmanship however it's not illegal.

I don't think anyone is questioning the legality of it...at least as far as I can see. Just that it's a BS play.

Actually yes they are.... read the OP's post:
HTf is this not illegal? Obviously the intent was strategical here, but you should not be allowed to slam a ball right into a guy's face--his nose nonetheless--because you can't find an open teammates. Getting an Nba ball thrown onto your nose with enough force so that he can't react in time is the equivalent of if simply sucker punching a guy right there. Had this taken on any sort of street game, the guy who threw the pass would be in the hospital now.

He's CLEARLY questioning the legality of the play. And thus purbeast defended it.
It's ENTIRELY legal. Horrible sportsmanship? Yes. Legal? Yes. Smart? Pretty much.

Smart? No. UCLA will remember Tim Morris when he comes back to play at Pauley Pavilion. It would have been just as effective to throw it at his legs. A headshot from point blank range in front of the UCLA bench? That's stupidity. It's one thing if it was his only option but he clearly could have thrown it at some other body part.
 
Originally posted by: LordSnailz
The play is totally legal but if you watch the video, the washington player threw it way too hard. If his intend was to get the ball in or buy more time then it's all good but he did not have to bring his arm back and throw it at the ucla player's face that hard. He wasn't trying to save the ball or anything. They shoulda call something on him. It's like going over and throwing the ball the coach or any other player, oh I was just trying to pass it .... ppsh!

I'll bet he was the first guy on the bus after he game. Shower? What?
 
Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: mugs
You know, there's a big difference between a baseball and a basketball...

QFT, at least edit the OP.

nah... the OP is just a brilliant testament to Syringer.

It is a lot harder to kill a spider with a baseball than a basketball. He should make sure he is armed with the right equipment at all times.
 
Originally posted by: purbeast0
the OP has apparently never played bball on an organized team. this kind of thing is common, however typically it's thrown at the knees or legs. however usually you can read your opponent when he does it since he has to look down.

😕 contradictory post ftl.
 
Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: Andy22
Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: slayer202
Originally posted by: purbeast0
the OP has apparently never played bball on an organized team. this kind of thing is common, however typically it's thrown at the knees or legs. however usually you can read your opponent when he does it since he has to look down.

when's the last time someone through the ball off the other guys face in the NBA or college? It is a bit different than throwing off a leg...

oh so that makes it illegal?

sure its poor sportsmanship however it's not illegal.

I don't think anyone is questioning the legality of it...at least as far as I can see. Just that it's a BS play.

Actually yes they are.... read the OP's post:
HTf is this not illegal? Obviously the intent was strategical here, but you should not be allowed to slam a ball right into a guy's face--his nose nonetheless--because you can't find an open teammates. Getting an Nba ball thrown onto your nose with enough force so that he can't react in time is the equivalent of if simply sucker punching a guy right there. Had this taken on any sort of street game, the guy who threw the pass would be in the hospital now.

He's CLEARLY questioning the legality of the play. And thus purbeast defended it.
It's ENTIRELY legal. Horrible sportsmanship? Yes. Legal? Yes. Smart? Pretty much.

Um, obviously it's legal, otherwise something would've been called. What I'm saying is, why is it legal when it's a very unsportsmanlike act to do, when throwing the ball off a guy's leg would've been just as acceptable.
 
Well, at least he didn't aim for the nads.

Honestly, legal or not, I'm surprised a fight didn't break out over this.
 
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