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Was this guy being abusive to his kids?

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: gigapet
abuse or not its not your business.

Bullsh!t. Minor children can't protect themselves.

Bullsh1t nothing. While he may not agree with it, it is none of his business. If the guy was hitting the kid, he might have a right to step in. He's not, so he doesn't.

 
Originally posted by: NuclearNed
Originally posted by: gigapet
abuse or not its not your business.

I totally agree, which is why I will never say anything to the guy unless he becomes physically abusive with the kid.

lol, i just posted effectively that 😉
 
The situation apparently made everyone in the gym uncomfortable, because lots of people were giving the guy funny looks, and everyone got real quiet.

If my lifting partner calls me a pvssy its one thing because I know he doesn't really mean anything by it. But saying stuff like that to a kid, using a loud angry voice, is a completely different story IMO.

One more bit of info - last night the dad also brought in his little girl. In my opinion she was being a pretty good kid. But she asked her dad if she could do something or other, and he started yelling at her about "be quiet and sit still or you're really going to be in trouble"
 
Originally posted by: NuclearNed
The situation apparently made everyone in the gym uncomfortable, because lots of people were giving the guy funny looks, and everyone got real quiet.

If my lifting partner calls me a pvssy its one thing because I know he doesn't really mean anything by it. But saying stuff like that to a kid, using a loud angry voice, is a completely different story IMO.

from what you say i agree with you...
 
Originally posted by: NuclearNed
The situation apparently made everyone in the gym uncomfortable, because lots of people were giving the guy funny looks, and everyone got real quiet.

If my lifting partner calls me a pvssy its one thing because I know he doesn't really mean anything by it. But saying stuff like that to a kid, using a loud angry voice, is a completely different story IMO.


could be the same situation with the kid and father.
 
Originally posted by: NuclearNed
Originally posted by: gigapet
abuse or not its not your business.

I totally agree, which is why I will never say anything to the guy unless he becomes physically abusive with the kid.


That doesnt even make sense!

"abuse or not its not your business"

That comment means its not your business that the father is yelling and its still not your business if the father hits the kid with a 25lb dumbell.
 
look at football coaches in middle school and high school. they yell and scream and pull at facemasks and stuff, and it is considered okay....
 
Originally posted by: shimsham
Originally posted by: NuclearNed
The situation apparently made everyone in the gym uncomfortable, because lots of people were giving the guy funny looks, and everyone got real quiet.

If my lifting partner calls me a pvssy its one thing because I know he doesn't really mean anything by it. But saying stuff like that to a kid, using a loud angry voice, is a completely different story IMO.


could be the same situation with the kid and father.


Did you fail to read the sentence he wrote after the one you bolded? But it could be the same situation as the kid and father, but i doubt it.
 
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: gigapet
abuse or not its not your business.

Bullsh!t. Minor children can't protect themselves.

I'm really on the fence with this. On one hand I think the dad is an idiot; no kid deserves that. On the other hand, I wouldn't want people meddling in my family affairs.

At some point, it needs to be your business. Some children do need saved from their parents. The problem is that the line is subjective from individual to individual.

I like the idea of offering to spot the guy and then treating him like he treats his son... of course, if he's belittled in front of his son, it's possible that he'll feel inferior and he'll go even further to prove his manhood to his boy at home.

Too many uknowns... probably should just leave it alone. When the kid is 17 he'll punch his dad in the face and they'll be square.

 
Originally posted by: MrX8503
Originally posted by: shimsham
Originally posted by: NuclearNed
The situation apparently made everyone in the gym uncomfortable, because lots of people were giving the guy funny looks, and everyone got real quiet.

If my lifting partner calls me a pvssy its one thing because I know he doesn't really mean anything by it. But saying stuff like that to a kid, using a loud angry voice, is a completely different story IMO.


could be the same situation with the kid and father.


Did you fail to read the sentence he wrote after the one you bolded? But it could be the same situation as the kid and father, but i doubt it.



yeah i read it all. point is still the same tho. the dad didnt call the kid a pvssy, he was just on his ass because he didnt lift what they both know he can. same thing, different words.
 
Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: gigapet
abuse or not its not your business.

Bullsh!t. Minor children can't protect themselves.

I'm really on the fence with this. On one hand I think the dad is an idiot; no kid deserves that. On the other hand, I wouldn't want people meddling in my family affairs.

At some point, it needs to be your business. Some children do need saved from their parents. The problem is that the line is subjective from individual to individual.

I like the idea of offering to spot the guy and then treating him like he treats his son... of course, if he's belittled in front of his son, it's possible that he'll feel inferior and he'll go even further to prove his manhood to his boy at home.

Too many uknowns... probably should just leave it alone. When the kid is 17 he'll punch his dad in the face and they'll be square.

lol "why did it take that little bastard to the gym all those years?"

 
it's abusive and counter-productive and therefore stupid.

how to make the father grok that is a different story.
 
Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: Mursilis
Originally posted by: FoBoT
i don't know if you mean legally abusive or what, but that behavior is wrong. telling your child they should be ashamed etc is wrong

the parents job is to build the child tool box of life skills and while weight lifting is good for the body, be publically berated by your father doesn't build a childs confidence and self esteem

he is a bad father

:thumbsup: What he said.


Agreed. Witnessing that kind of stuff makes me cringe.

Agree ... well put.
 
Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: gigapet
abuse or not its not your business.

Bullsh!t. Minor children can't protect themselves.

Bullsh1t nothing. While he may not agree with it, it is none of his business. If the guy was hitting the kid, he might have a right to step in. He's not, so he doesn't.

Since when was abuse only physical? :roll: Get a clue or join us in the current Century. If someone is *publicly* yelling at a child on a repeated basis, then it would make anyone with a brain think something was going on. Only an idiot would saying that yelling in public on a constant basis is "none of your business." At the very least he should be told to STFU so that other people can work out. More than likely he's verbally abusive to the kid in other situations, because it isn't like a 10 year old needs abuse to work out. He's not pushing through to the next level. He's 10.

Can you show me where something where it says that physical abuse is not ok but mental or emotional abuse is ok? Hoser.
 
Originally posted by: Armitage
Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: Mursilis
Originally posted by: FoBoT
i don't know if you mean legally abusive or what, but that behavior is wrong. telling your child they should be ashamed etc is wrong

the parents job is to build the child tool box of life skills and while weight lifting is good for the body, be publically berated by your father doesn't build a childs confidence and self esteem

he is a bad father

:thumbsup: What he said.


Agreed. Witnessing that kind of stuff makes me cringe.

Agree ... well put.

Makes you wonder what the father is thinking...
 
I've seen parents do this sort of thing, and honestly, it's their business, not yours. If the guy starts hitting the kid, then I think you should step in. If you are really bothered, maybe try to talk to the dad when the kid isn't around. It might provoke him into a fight, simply because you are telling him how to raise his kid, some people don't like that. But in the long run the kid will be better off if the dad lays off a little. That's my opinion.


Reminds me of the time there was a youth wrestling tournament at my old high school. I was there after a cross country meet, just going to my locker to grab some stuff. I witnessed a father yelling at his kid for losing a wresting match, and the kid was crying his eyes out.
 
Originally posted by: MrX8503
Originally posted by: shimsham
Originally posted by: NuclearNed
The situation apparently made everyone in the gym uncomfortable, because lots of people were giving the guy funny looks, and everyone got real quiet.

If my lifting partner calls me a pvssy its one thing because I know he doesn't really mean anything by it. But saying stuff like that to a kid, using a loud angry voice, is a completely different story IMO.


could be the same situation with the kid and father.


Did you fail to read the sentence he wrote after the one you bolded? But it could be the same situation as the kid and father, but i doubt it.

That's a tough judgment call, though. He might be just as described and is being abusive, or he could have that rapport with the son. From the way OP described it, and the way the father spoke to the daughter I'd think he's a dipsh!t, however.
 
Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: gigapet
abuse or not its not your business.

Bullsh!t. Minor children can't protect themselves.

I'm really on the fence with this. On one hand I think the dad is an idiot; no kid deserves that. On the other hand, I wouldn't want people meddling in my family affairs.

At some point, it needs to be your business. Some children do need saved from their parents. The problem is that the line is subjective from individual to individual.

I like the idea of offering to spot the guy and then treating him like he treats his son... of course, if he's belittled in front of his son, it's possible that he'll feel inferior and he'll go even further to prove his manhood to his boy at home.

Too many uknowns... probably should just leave it alone. When the kid is 17 he'll punch his dad in the face and they'll be square.

Of course it is subjective, and that's why all of us are giving our opinion here. I'm not busy-body. I rarely, if ever, interfere with anything that goes on in public. However, if I saw a father REPEATEDLY yell at his son in public, then I would certainly be paying attention to it, and I would certainly say it was my business. Not in public? Sucks, but I don't go around planting bugs. In public on a frequent basis? How is that not a problem?
 
I don't know what makes something one's business. There's no law against going up to someone and giving them a piece of your mind, and it's certainly not unethical to try to protect some defenseless woman or child, no matter who they supposedly belong to.
 
Originally posted by: fitzov
I don't know what makes something one's business. There's no law against going up to someone and giving them a piece of your mind, and it's certainly not unethical to try to protect some defenseless woman or child, no matter who they supposedly belong to.


Dont do this, you will get a smack in the mouth. People dont like being told how to raise their children or how to do things. Think what you want, inform others, but dont go up and say "uh mr guy, dont talk like that to your child, its wrong, you shouldnt do it" Not everyone takes advice well, and by the sounds of this guy, he would take it badly.
 
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