Was this excessive force used by the officer?

[QueBert]

arcenite, if I'm understanding you right, you're basically saying the Cop breaking a law was no big deal? The only reason the the Police chased this guy was because he had broke a law. So why isn't the Cop held to those same standards? Why should the criminal be convicted of breaking a law, when the Cop who fucked him up can't be? Last time I checked Police aren't Gods and cannot decided when and where to abuse their powers as they see fit. I hope this Cop gets his ass stomped, he's NO better than the dude he stomped. They're both huge douches, and both belong in jail.

 

[keird]

Originally posted by: QueBert
arcenite, if I'm understanding you right, you're basically saying the Cop breaking a law was no big deal? The only reason the the Police chased this guy was because he had broke a law. So why isn't the Cop held to those same standards? Why should the criminal be convicted of breaking a law, when the Cop who fucked him up can't be? Last time I checked Police aren't Gods and cannot decided when and where to abuse their powers as they see fit. I hope this Cop gets his ass stomped, he's NO better than the dude he stomped. They're both huge douches, and both belong in jail.

I think that what's being pointed out is that this is an internet debate with people injecting their opinions.

Allow me to inject mine. Humans aren't Vulcans. This isn't about logic. Please avoid the 'wouldn't it be better' trap that we (we critics) get into when discussing events, because critics don't actually have any input in the event. None

I will willfully look away as this cop rears up to drop kick this criminal in the face. There used to be a time when there weren't police and it was up to a community to police itself. Then that community hired someone to police it. Until that time, people used their best judgment. While others tout the 'No one should be the Judge, Jury and Executioner' mantra like it's a well memorized physics equation, and others (like myself) will state that U.S. Citizens generally enjoy the rule of law, I think a swift kick to the face of a criminal will utilize that persons nervous system to reinforce the conclusion that the willfully criminally negligent behavior was a bad idea in the first fucking place and that sprawling on the ground in surrender isn't exactly like the reset button on their X-Box; they are submitting to the will of another human being who's pretty pissed off at them.

I've forcefullly applied my will upon another person that mugged two people. Who the fvck am I? Just a citizen. But someone I didn't know got their stolen cash back becase a couple of citizens stood up and injected themselves into the situation. No investigation, no judges, no sworn statements, no cops, it was just an on-the-spot correction. With Mace and some shouting.

 

[ZXT]

That was not neccessary. Police are trained but when they're out there they forgot all about it. Police should be different from those they're trying to catch. Having a badge doesn't mean they can do that legally.

It's way over the top. The guy doesn't even resisteing arrest, he surrendered already with both hand visible and away from his pockets.

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: ZXT
That was not neccessary. Police are trained but when they're out there they forgot all about it. Police should be different from those they're trying to catch. Having a badge doesn't mean they can do that legally.

It's way over the top. The guy doesn't even resisteing arrest, he surrendered already with both hand visible and away from his pockets.

the high 5 between officers after wards tells me that it wasn't a caught up in the heat of the moment thing that happened. He stomped dudes face in the ground, took a second to ponder what he did and said "fuck it man HIGH FIVE!" *slap* sickening. Sad when cops can act like this and have so many people still defend them. Criminals are assholes, they should be in jail I understand and agree. But nobody can act like this, and there's no excuse.

 

[SampSon]

Maybe the cop was pretending to be Pele or Beckham.

I'm fairly positive that wasn't the right time to kick that guy in the head.

Standard operating procedure for law enforcement wouldn't call for a kick to the face in that situation.
That officer knows it, the helicopter camera man knows it, the newsman knows it, the perp. knows it, the perps future lawyer definitely knows it, the officer's superior that has to suspend him knows it, the internal affairs investigator that brings assault charges against the officer knows it and finally the joe-six-pack watching that video knows it too.

 

[marrr]

uncalled for

 

[DayLaPaul]

I'm not sure what to make of this, but it turns out the cop who did the kicking owns a clothing company that sells "gang related" clothing.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/n...ing-Clothing-Line.html

 

[RadiclDreamer]

Where is jlee now?

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
Where is jlee now?

Probably working, he works mids. Anyways, what you witnessed wasn't excessive force. It was assault.

 

[guyver01]

Originally posted by: I Saw OJ
I hope that guys lawyer files assault charges against that first officer. Adrenaline or no adrenaline, gang signs or no gang signs, there was no excuse for that.

Your honor, my client, who was only trying to run away from the officer, so he could return the stolen loot to his gang...er...peers.... insists that the fact that he has previously murdered people and stolen and resisted arrest should have NO bearing on this trial.

In fact... my client would like to be freed on bail so he can recover some more stolen loot for his gang, as there is also an outstanding "hit" on another gang that he would like to participate in.

 

[n yusef]

Originally posted by: guyver01

Originally posted by: I Saw OJ
I hope that guys lawyer files assault charges against that first officer. Adrenaline or no adrenaline, gang signs or no gang signs, there was no excuse for that.

Your honor, my client, who was only trying to run away from the officer, so he could return the stolen loot to his gang...er...peers.... insists that the fact that he has previously murdered people and stolen and resisted arrest should have NO bearing on this trial.

In fact... my client would like to be freed on bail so he can recover some more stolen loot for his gang, as there is also an outstanding "hit" on another gang that he would like to participate in.

:roll:

Just because one has committed crimes doesn't mean one can't be a victim of a separate rime.

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: DayLaPaul
I'm not sure what to make of this, but it turns out the cop who did the kicking owns a clothing company that sells "gang related" clothing.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/n...ing-Clothing-Line.html

This is hilariously awesome, so basically the Cop was biting the hand that feed him by kicking one of his customers in the head?

Both the cop and the gang member should be tossed in jail, no trial needed for either. Both are scum.

The news conference was bullshit, they're going to launch an investigation by their own police force into the stomping and the ensuing high five? To be fair and even, the gang members trial should have a jury of nothing but gang members.