Was this a "transformative" election?

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finglobes

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Yeah I guess all those food stamp commercials that were all over TV and radio 6 months before election were just a late blooming Bush program. President Barabbas and his "vote for me" political crack stamp program were at work. Obama is so third world


"The swooning frenzy over the choice of Barack Obama as President of the United States must be one of the most absurd waves of self-deception and swirling fantasy ever to sweep through an advanced civilisation. At least Mandela-worship - its nearest equivalent - is focused on a man who actually did something.

I really don't see how the Obama devotees can ever in future mock the Moonies, the Scientologists or people who claim to have been abducted in flying saucers. This is a cult like the one which grew up around Princess Diana, bereft of reason and hostile to facts.

It already has all the signs of such a thing. The newspapers which recorded Obama's victory have become valuable relics. You may buy Obama picture books and Obama calendars and if there isn't yet a children's picture version of his story, there soon will be.

Proper books, recording his sordid associates, his cowardly voting record, his astonishingly militant commitment to unrestricted abortion and his blundering trip to Africa, are little-read and hard to find.

If you can believe that this undistinguished and conventionally Left-wing machine politician is a sort of secular saviour, then you can believe anything. He plainly doesn't believe it himself. His cliche-stuffed, PC clunker of an acceptance speech suffered badly from nerves. It was what you would expect from someone who knew he'd promised too much and that from now on the easy bit was over.

He needn't worry too much. From now on, the rough boys and girls of America's Democratic Party apparatus, many recycled from Bill Clinton's stained and crumpled entourage, will crowd round him, to collect the rich spoils of his victory and also tell him what to do, which is what he is used to."

Peter Hitchens

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...t-waved-goodbye-America--best-hope-Earth.html
 
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It may be that the historical importance of this election was that it wasn't transformative. Dark money didn't win. The foundation of lies didn't win. Obstructionism didn't win. Voter suppression didn't win. Imagine elections from here on out if it had gone the other way. That would have been terribly transformative.
 

Socio

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But Democratic House candidates received MORE votes than Republican House candidates and only have more seats due to gerrymandering.

Going forward it will be harder and harder for Republicans to continue this since as they become a smaller percentage of the population it gets harder and harder to gerrymander enough seats.

In fact, I read that if the Dems had gotten one to one and half percent more votes for the House nationwide they would have had an equal number of seats. And demographics are about to make this a reality.

Add that to the fact that the baby boomer population, some 80 million of them which make up a large portion of the Republican party are reaching the end of their life expectancy.
 

werepossum

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I'm tempted to say yes, but in reality the transformation has been happening all along. W gave us Medicare part D - a HUGE government entitlement based only on age. The age of big government is upon us, and Finglobes is absolutely correct that "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country" has been reversed. But it's not Obama, it's us. We've become Greece, it's just that some of us have been in denial.

What the hell, America had a pretty good run. Congrats to Red China on inheriting the world. At least it won't be Americans fighting and dying overseas much longer.
 

monovillage

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But Democratic House candidates received MORE votes than Republican House candidates and only have more seats due to gerrymandering.

Going forward it will be harder and harder for Republicans to continue this since as they become a smaller percentage of the population it gets harder and harder to gerrymander enough seats.

In fact, I read that if the Dems had gotten one to one and half percent more votes for the House nationwide they would have had an equal number of seats. And demographics are about to make this a reality.

If Romney had gotten 1 1/2 % more votes in key areas he would be the President-elect. The reality is that Republicans control the House, and rarely do mid-term elections go to the party in power. We'll have some measure of gridlock for the next 4 years most likely.