Was Paul Wellstone Murdered? Investigation by Michael C. Ruppert

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alchemize

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Originally posted by: Nietzscheusw
Great. Now prove that Carmody tampered with either the crash evidence or report.
burnedout, must we connect the dots for you?

Very well. Clinton put tenent in office. Tenent is the head of the CIA. Clinton has had the CIA murder the two gentlemen. Bush comes, Tenent stays, murders continue? Of course, he's really running the government. Clinton never left! He still runs things through Tenent! He orchestrated 9/11! The Iraq invasion! Even the gay stuff, it is all a clever red herring!

CONNECT THE DOTS!!! CLINTON ->TENENT->CIA
BUSH -> TENENT - >CIA

Indisputable proof! ;)

I want to thank Schitzo Nitzcho for opening my eyes.

 

burnedout

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: burnedout
Originally posted by: Nietzscheusw
Great. Now prove that Carmody tampered with either the crash evidence or report.
burnedout, must we connect the dots for you?

Very well. Clinton put tenent in office. Tenent is the head of the CIA. Clinton has had the CIA murder the two gentlemen. Bush comes, Tenent stays, murders continue? Of course, he's really running the government. Clinton never left! He still runs things through Tenent! He orchestrated 9/11! The Iraq invasion! Even the gay stuff, it is all a clever red herring!

CONNECT THE DOTS!!! CLINTON ->TENENT->CIA
BUSH -> TENENT - >CIA

Indisputable proof! ;)

I want to thank Schitzo Nitzcho for opening my eyes.
Ah, gotcha. That danged Clinton again! From staff members dying in public to airplanes with Senators crashing. I knew there was a plausible explanation!
 

Nietzscheusw

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The republican clowns in this thread continue to refuse to examine and discuss the investigation of Michael Ruppert.
One more proof that the electors of Bush are irrational.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Nietzscheusw
The republican clowns in this thread continue to refuse to examine and discuss the investigation of Michael Ruppert.
One more proof that the electors of Bush are irrational.
Ummm Hello...Bush wash SELECTED not ELECTED. Little did we know it was Clinton that selected him, not the supreme coup!

I read it on tha innerweb!

 

burnedout

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Originally posted by: Nietzscheusw
The republican clowns in this thread continue to refuse to examine and discuss the investigation of Michael Ruppert.
One more proof that the electors of Bush are irrational.
OK, I'll discuss it. His report sucks - period. The garbage is filled with speculation and unsubstantiated conjecture.

There, is that enough for you?
 

Nietzscheusw

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Originally posted by: burnedout
Originally posted by: Nietzscheusw
Great. Now prove that Carmody tampered with either the crash evidence or report.

Join the CIA if you want to learn how to do that.
Remember the Warren Commision?
Some people know how to do these things.

Now maybe you will start discussing the content of the article?
 

Nietzscheusw

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Originally posted by: alchemize
It is all out there on their website! just open your eyes!

Here's the clinton CIA link! Same author!

Here is the clinton/cia involvment in drug money and elections!
Here's the goods the CIA and Clinton have on Bush!

OPEN YOUR EYES SCHITZO!! YOU ARE SO CLOSE TO THE TRUTH!

You act like a child who believes the CIA, Clinton and the Bushies are as pure as the virgin Mary, and the USA as pure as Disneyland.
The CIA and your presidents are responsible for the deaths of millions of innocent human beings all over the World during the 20th century.
Which means you can put an end to your pitiful try to ridicule me by linking articles about the involvement of the CIA, Clinton and the Bushies in drug money.
Drug money is a strategic resource for the USA as it is for France and other countries.
Go back to watching the Disney Channel, kid!
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Nietzscheusw
Originally posted by: alchemize
It is all out there on their website! just open your eyes!

Here's the clinton CIA link! Same author!

Here is the clinton/cia involvment in drug money and elections!
Here's the goods the CIA and Clinton have on Bush!

OPEN YOUR EYES SCHITZO!! YOU ARE SO CLOSE TO THE TRUTH!

You act like a child who believes the CIA, Clinton and the Bushies are as pure as the virgin Mary, and the USA as pure as Disneyland.
The CIA and your presidents are responsible for the deaths of millions of innocent human beings all over the World during the 20th century.
Which means you can put an end to your pitiful try to ridicule me by linking articles about the involvement of the CIA, Clinton and the Bushies in drug money.
Drug money is a strategic resource for the USA as it is for France and other countries.
Go back to watching the Disney Channel, kid!

Are you saying that website is lying? :confused: If not, prove to me that the link between Tenent is not controlling the US! The CIA controls the US, Clinton put Tenent in place, Tenent controls the CIA. Please explain how Clinton isn't controlling the US through Tenent?
 

Nietzscheusw

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Originally posted by: burnedout
Originally posted by: Nietzscheusw
The republican clowns in this thread continue to refuse to examine and discuss the investigation of Michael Ruppert.
One more proof that the electors of Bush are irrational.
OK, I'll discuss it. His report sucks - period. The garbage is filled with speculation and unsubstantiated conjecture.

There, is that enough for you?

Wow! Very convincing rebuttal of an independant investigation by...someone who stayed in front of his computer and believes the CIA version.
And JFK was killed by a lone nut. And RFK too. The same for MLK.
Do you have a poster of Warren above your bed?
 

heartsurgeon

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i hate to say this, but you know if Wellstone had just kept his pledge not run again for the Senate...he wouldn't have been on that airplane....
 

CaptnKirk

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I do believe that George W. Bush, with his pilot experience - seized the controls and dove the airplane into the ground.
He had done the same thing with Mel Carnahan's plane in Missouri, and had gained even more experience.
He's probably personaly responsible for every airplane crash that has ever happened.
 

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My advice to all Democrats in tight re-election races: Be careful, avoid small planes at night.

I have often thought of the coincendences of the death of Wellstone 2 years after Carnahans demise. Both democrats in close races.

Seems to me that dem in tight races should carry extra life insurance.

B.
 

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Frankly, I like Ruppert's report more than the NTSB's. Sometimes coincindences are just that, but this one seems to be a little too "convenient." Blaming the weather, when local experts deny that the weather was a significant concern? Blaming the pilots, when there were 2 fully-qualified and experienced pilots on board? I don't buy it.

I suppose all the threadcrappers here think the US is some innocent blessed angel that those extreme Islamic fundamentalists were just envious of, right? And that the US was perfectly justified in leveling Afghanistan and invading Iraq? Do you support the Patriot Act and Patriot II, too?

Sometimes, just sometimes, it's helpful to have a clue what's really going on in the world. Here's a hint - that involves a little more than flipping through the news channels eating whatever sh!t Big Brother decides to feed you. Not all conspiracy theories or other news sources will be accurate either, but its better to have more information to make up your own mind.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Nietzscheusw
Originally posted by: burnedout
Originally posted by: Nietzscheusw
The republican clowns in this thread continue to refuse to examine and discuss the investigation of Michael Ruppert.
One more proof that the electors of Bush are irrational.
OK, I'll discuss it. His report sucks - period. The garbage is filled with speculation and unsubstantiated conjecture.

There, is that enough for you?

Wow! Very convincing rebuttal of an independant investigation by...someone who stayed in front of his computer and believes the CIA version.
And JFK was killed by a lone nut. And RFK too. The same for MLK.
Do you have a poster of Warren above your bed?

Moon? No, he's washed up.

CkG
 

Nietzscheusw

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Nietzscheusw
Originally posted by: burnedout
Originally posted by: Nietzscheusw
The republican clowns in this thread continue to refuse to examine and discuss the investigation of Michael Ruppert.
One more proof that the electors of Bush are irrational.
OK, I'll discuss it. His report sucks - period. The garbage is filled with speculation and unsubstantiated conjecture.

There, is that enough for you?

Wow! Very convincing rebuttal of an independant investigation by...someone who stayed in front of his computer and believes the CIA version.
And JFK was killed by a lone nut. And RFK too. The same for MLK.
Do you have a poster of Warren above your bed?

Moon? No, he's washed up.

CkG

Earl Warren, friend of J. Edgar Hoover.
 

chess9

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Gotta' side with the Republicans on this one. Ruppert is full of rubbish....

-Robert
 

Nietzscheusw

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Originally posted by: chess9
Gotta' side with the Republicans on this one. Ruppert is full of rubbish....

-Robert

What do you think of the links between these two words: police corruption ?
There aren't any links between these two words?
Or Ruppert was right to leave the LAPD when he discovered the involvement of the LAPD and the CIA, together, in the drug traffic?
When there is a huge scandal every so many years about how widespread corruption is among the police in NY or LA, followed by a big and long investigation, then some measures are taken, and then it starts all over again years later, how do you react?
Ruppert did the right thing: he became an independant investigator, investigating the involvement of the CIA in the drug traffic. He survived three assassination attempts. Who are you to judge him? What do you do to fight the widespread corruption fueled by the hundreds of billions of dollars of drug money?



<< Drug Trafficking
from the book
The CIAs Greatest Hits
by Mark Zapezauer


Even before the CIA was officially founded, it was intertwined with major drug-trafficking organizations-its parent organization, the OSS, cooperated with the Mafia during World War II. After the war, one of the first covert operations of the new CIA was to break the strength of left-wing labor unions in southern France. To do this, the CIA cemented an ongoing tie to the Corsican Mafia, then the biggest heroin traffickers in the world.
By the early 1960s, much of the world's heroin production had shifted to Southeast Asia, due to another major CIA operation. The agency had trained Nationalist Chinese forces to invade Communist China; when that operation failed, they settled in northeastern Burma and became the world's largest opium producers (mainly by terrorizing the local villagers into growing it for them). This area, known as the Golden Triangle, continues to lead the world in opium production.
Meanwhile, as the US moved into Indochina, the existing opium trade there gradually became integrated into other US operations. While President Nixon, full of law-and-order rhetoric, made a great show of busting the famous "French connection," his allies in the Florida Mafia moved into Vietnam. By 1970, the US was flooded with pure Asian heroin, some of it smuggled home inside the corpses of US soldiers.
In Laos, the CIA was running a 40,000-man mercenary army. It included many Hmong tribespeople, who were longtime opium farmers. The CIA airline, Air America, ran weapons to the army and brought the Hmong's crop back out to market. Some of the massive profits from the operations were laundered by CIA agent Michael Hand through an Australian bank he founded and were used to finance other CIA operations behind Congress' back
Many veterans of CIA drug operations in Asia went on to star in the agency's secret wars in Central America in the 1980s, where the above pattern was repeated. The Nicaraguan contras were partially funded by cocaine operations, smuggled to and from the US on customs-free supply flights. CIA assets in Honduras, Costa Rica, El Salvador and Panama helped facilitate the trade.
In the CIA's secret war in Afghanistan, the Afghan rebels and their Pakistani hosts also partly financed themselves with heroin profits. Much of their product ended up, once again, in the veins of US addicts.>>

The CIAs Greatest Hits

 

chess9

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None of which proves Wellstone was murdered. :)

By the way, I liked Wellstone a lot. He was a very bright light in an otherwise dim room.

-Robert
 

Nietzscheusw

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Originally posted by: chess9
None of which proves Wellstone was murdered. :)

By the way, I liked Wellstone a lot. He was a very bright light in an otherwise dim room.

-Robert

You did not prove that << Ruppert is full of rubbish >>.

CNN did not like Wellstone and did not investigate...rather prefering to censor its journalist on the field.
Rupppert liked Wellstone like you did, and he did investigate. He proved that the official version everyone heard on TV was full of rubbish.
 

burnedout

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Rep. Larry McDonald, D-Ga. KAL 007....

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Secretary of Commerce Ron Brown, a Democrat,

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Carol Carmody; [Note: According to the NTSB web site Carmody formerly worked for the Central Intelligence Agency.]
Nietzscheusw, you are a certified crackpot - period.

First of all, suggesting that the downing of KAL 007 was part of a CIA-Soviet conspiracy during the height of the Cold War borders on insanity. Furthermore, to imply that the crash involving Ron Brown is all part of some huge coverup speaks volumes for gullibility.

Next, indeed Carmody worked for the CIA. However, what was her position at the CIA? Just because one works for the CIA doesn't necessarily imply servitude to reckless governmental aspirations. If she indeed investigated the Wellstone crash, then can't we deduce that other investigators were also on-site with her? Can you believe that all of the investigators involved would remain silent.

The report covering the Wellstone crash was adopted in November of 2003 after Ellen Connors assumed duties as chairman (chairwoman or chairperson for the PC zealots).
 

burnedout

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Originally posted by: Nietzscheusw
Originally posted by: chess9
None of which proves Wellstone was murdered. :)

By the way, I liked Wellstone a lot. He was a very bright light in an otherwise dim room.

-Robert

You did not prove that << Ruppert is full of rubbish >>.

CNN did not like Wellstone and did not investigate...rather prefering to censor its journalist on the field.
Rupppert liked Wellstone like you did, and he did investigate. He proved that the official version everyone heard on TV was full of rubbish.
Why didn't other media organizations investigate? AP, ABC, CBS, NBC, NYT......

 

Mill

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Originally posted by: Draknor
Frankly, I like Ruppert's report more than the NTSB's. Sometimes coincindences are just that, but this one seems to be a little too "convenient." Blaming the weather, when local experts deny that the weather was a significant concern? Blaming the pilots, when there were 2 fully-qualified and experienced pilots on board? I don't buy it.

I suppose all the threadcrappers here think the US is some innocent blessed angel that those extreme Islamic fundamentalists were just envious of, right? And that the US was perfectly justified in leveling Afghanistan and invading Iraq? Do you support the Patriot Act and Patriot II, too?

Sometimes, just sometimes, it's helpful to have a clue what's really going on in the world. Here's a hint - that involves a little more than flipping through the news channels eating whatever sh!t Big Brother decides to feed you. Not all conspiracy theories or other news sources will be accurate either, but its better to have more information to make up your own mind.

And then sometimes there is a dumbass like you that doesn't believe the NTSB report. Not to jerk you off or anything, but my father died at the hands of two experienced pilots, and the weather was also "not" that bad according to the locals. Threadcrappers? Nah, we just have logical sense and don't look for shadows in every corner. There is no proof of anything you say or what our Gallic fvckwit says.
 

Nietzscheusw

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Draknor
Frankly, I like Ruppert's report more than the NTSB's. Sometimes coincindences are just that, but this one seems to be a little too "convenient." Blaming the weather, when local experts deny that the weather was a significant concern? Blaming the pilots, when there were 2 fully-qualified and experienced pilots on board? I don't buy it.

I suppose all the threadcrappers here think the US is some innocent blessed angel that those extreme Islamic fundamentalists were just envious of, right? And that the US was perfectly justified in leveling Afghanistan and invading Iraq? Do you support the Patriot Act and Patriot II, too?

Sometimes, just sometimes, it's helpful to have a clue what's really going on in the world. Here's a hint - that involves a little more than flipping through the news channels eating whatever sh!t Big Brother decides to feed you. Not all conspiracy theories or other news sources will be accurate either, but its better to have more information to make up your own mind.

And then sometimes there is a dumbass like you that doesn't believe the NTSB report. Not to jerk you off or anything, but my father died at the hands of two experienced pilots, and the weather was also "not" that bad according to the locals. Threadcrappers? Nah, we just have logical sense and don't look for shadows in every corner. There is no proof of anything you say or what our Gallic fvckwit says.

Was your father the worst enemy of Bush and Cheney in the Senate?
The powers that be killed JFK, RFK, MLK.
And they would hesitate before killing Wellstone at a time when his reelection had to be fought by all means by the White House, a few months before the war and crucial votes in the Senate?
With current technologies, killing someone and making it look like an accident is easier than ever.
Believing the official version regarding the death of Wellstone is no more serious than believing the official version regarding the death of President Kennedy, the official version regarding the death of future President Robert Kennedy, the official version regarding the death of Martin Luther King. You live in a country where very powerful people do get rid of even the President if he bothers them. Wellstone bothered them.
 

burnedout

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Originally posted by: Nietzscheusw

With current technologies, killing someone and making it look like an accident is easier than ever.
With current bigmouths running around, trying to get away with something so subversive is very difficult.

Believing the official version regarding the death of Wellstone is no more serious than believing the official version regarding the death of President Kennedy, the official version regarding the death of future President Robert Kennedy, the official version regarding the death of Martin Luther King. You live in a country where very powerful people do get rid of even the President if he bothers them. Wellstone bothered them.
We also live in a country with comparatively lax firearms laws, comparatively more air traffic than other countries and conspiracy-minded net kooks galore.