Was just looking over a hospital bill for my son....

[FelixDeCat]

Originally posted by: TheVrolok

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Doesnt it feel wonderful to pay those huge ass medical personel salaries, especially for boobery and incompetance? One of the true pleasures in life. :disgust:

I suppose it feels as wonderful as being completely ignorant of the topic. :roll:

Let me guess, you are one of pigs at the trough? Shame on you sir!

Nurses dont need to collect 6 figures. I dont care what you say. Dont care. Neither do staff. They are bloated pigs that need to be slaughtered.

Nationalize heathcare and regulate salaries. Quality be damned. I used to argue for the "the other side", but I can see now I was wrong. The system we have now of runaway costs including exorbitant salaries unsustainable.

 

[Damn Dirty Ape]

Originally posted by: Homerboy
$284 for an Urgent Care visit (fine)
$194 to apply a finger splint. The same finger splint that A) didnt fit at all B) fell off before he even got home.

Stellar deal there.

how about $18,943 for an urgent (not true emergency) appedendectomy on a Sunday morning?

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: Xanis
My mom went to the ER once for severe food poisoning. One of the items on the bill was "bedpan usage" for $75. RIDICULOUS.

Meh, as much as I hate doctors and their extortion tactics, $75 for bedpan usage is not any more ridiculous than $300/night for a hotel room.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Originally posted by: TheVrolok

Originally posted by: Juddog
When I was in the hospital about 15 years ago after I got hit by a car, I was looking through the itemized expenses and couldn't believe the cost on some things. For example each day I was there they charged a meal expense of about $75 per meal. The actual meal was a hotdog that was microwaved for two minutes, shriveled up and rubbery with a side of frozen corn, also microwaved, with one of those little jello dessert items. Total cost at the local grocery store would be about $3. Another example is they charged me $50 for bringing me 2 ibuprofin pills (which were over the counter strength).

The $50 was for paid for the nurse (who spent time getting a license) to take you those two pills. No one forced them into you, I'm assuming? You could have said hey, what are those? Nah, I really don't need 2 otc ibuprofen.

I'm in the wrong fucking field if I can go into nursing and make $50 for 2 minutes of work.
You're obviously a doctor or you play one on the internet and defend your side of it, but you have already admitted that it is COMMON PRACTICE for the hospitals and doctors to commit insurance fraud as a game to get paid. How about if ALL hospitals and Doctors were honest and billed accordingly, insurance companies wouldn't fight every bill, thus they wouldn't have to have higher premiums to pay all the claims adjustors to go over all the bogus bills the hospital and dr's sent them?
You can play mr. nice guy and claim it isn't your fault, but as a whole it is your professions fault.
Me and all the rest of us non doctors/hospital workers are the ones gettign fucked.

 

[sao123]

mebe you should realize that you dont go to the ER for a broken bone???

Text
you insurance will tell you, you ER should tell you, your PCP will tell you...

MAKE AN APPOINTMENT AT AN OTHOPEDIC SPECIALIST


Bad Reasons to Go to an Emergency Room:

[*]Earache.
[*]Minor cuts where bleeding is controlled.
[*]A minor dog or animal bite where bleeding is controlled (but see your doctor?a rabies shot may be necessary).
[*]A broken bone (call your doctor to see if he/she can treat you the same day, if not? or if bone is showing, limb is deformed?go to the ER).
[*]A sprain.
[*]A sunburn or minor burn from cooking.
[*]An insect sting or delayed swelling from a sting (if there is breathing difficulty, go to the ER).
[*]A skin rash.
[*]Fever (if there is a convulsion, go to the ER).
[*]Sexually-transmitted diseases.
[*]Colds and cough, sore throat, flu.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: sao123
mebe you should realize that you dont go to the ER for a broken bone???

Text
you insurance will tell you, you ER should tell you, your PCP will tell you...

MAKE AN APPOINTMENT AT AN OTHOPEDIC SPECIALIST


Bad Reasons to Go to an Emergency Room:

[*]Earache.
[*]Minor cuts where bleeding is controlled.
[*]A minor dog or animal bite where bleeding is controlled (but see your doctor?a rabies shot may be necessary).
[*]A broken bone (call your doctor to see if he/she can treat you the same day, if not? or if bone is showing, limb is deformed?go to the ER).
[*]A sprain.
[*]A sunburn or minor burn from cooking.
[*]An insect sting or delayed swelling from a sting (if there is breathing difficulty, go to the ER).
[*]A skin rash.
[*]Fever (if there is a convulsion, go to the ER).
[*]Sexually-transmitted diseases.
[*]Colds and cough, sore throat, flu.

Urgent Care != ER

Urgent Care's are designed to be more cost effective and alleviate traffic in emergency rooms.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: sao123
mebe you should realize that you dont go to the ER for a broken bone???

Text
you insurance will tell you, you ER should tell you, your PCP will tell you...

MAKE AN APPOINTMENT AT AN OTHOPEDIC SPECIALIST


Bad Reasons to Go to an Emergency Room:

[*]Earache.
[*]Minor cuts where bleeding is controlled.
[*]A minor dog or animal bite where bleeding is controlled (but see your doctor?a rabies shot may be necessary).
[*]A broken bone (call your doctor to see if he/she can treat you the same day, if not? or if bone is showing, limb is deformed?go to the ER).
[*]A sprain.
[*]A sunburn or minor burn from cooking.
[*]An insect sting or delayed swelling from a sting (if there is breathing difficulty, go to the ER).
[*]A skin rash.
[*]Fever (if there is a convulsion, go to the ER).
[*]Sexually-transmitted diseases.
[*]Colds and cough, sore throat, flu.

trouble is IF you do not have insurance and poor. you can't go into the clinic without full payment.

so people go to the ER for all of these. last time i was in the ER i couldnt breath and bad side pain (i have a history of having collapsed lungs). i sat there for 5 hours before i got in. it was full of people there for bullshit reasons.

one girl (maybe 17) was there to get her baby his SHOTS and some formula! WTF~! i was pissed off

 

[TheVrolok]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: TheVrolok

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Bummer. Healthcare is expensive. 🙁

I have no problem with paying for something that works... The charge for the Urgent care is well spent (examination, Xray etc) but a splint that isn't what's needed AND that falls off within 15mins? Give me a break. With the help of one of his teachers (a friend of ours) who also is a trained physical therapist, we wrapped it up properly and securely when we got home. The $194 for the splint is a freaking joke beyond measure.

Why was the splint not needed? I'm sure if it wasn't, you could dispute the charge. I have no idea what type of splint it was, so I can't make any claims about how it was put on or its cost. There is more to that charge, though, than simply the cost of the splint.

Such as?
Paying for the illegal Mexican to come in for a herpes check up?

My point is; don't blame the health care workers, blame the system. The workers are just as pissed at the uninsured (willfully) leeching free healthcare. Guess what, the workers pay taxes, too.

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: TheVrolok

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Doesnt it feel wonderful to pay those huge ass medical personel salaries, especially for boobery and incompetance? One of the true pleasures in life. :disgust:

I suppose it feels as wonderful as being completely ignorant of the topic. :roll:

Let me guess, you are one of pigs at the trough? Shame on you sir!

Nurses dont need to collect 6 figures. I dont care what you say. Dont care. Neither do staff. They are bloated pigs that need to be slaughtered.

Nationalize heathcare and regulate salaries. Quality be damned. Damn pigs.

I'm hoping that this is sarcasm, there aren't that many nurses that make 6 figures. Well, they can do it working enough OT if it's available. That said, some nurses do get some sweet gigs. Some psych nurses are pulling down 95/year, and I know some weekend program (Fri/Sat/Sun) night shift nurses making 70-80 a year, of course they don't get the same benefits as normal full timers and they have to work weekends.. but eh. And just in case you're not being sarcastic, what do you mean "staff" ? No one beneath nurses is pulling down 6, and I really hope you don't mean physicians. Physicians should be making at least the bottom of 6 figures .. you think 400-500k in education pays for itself with magic beans?

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: TheVrolok

Originally posted by: Juddog
When I was in the hospital about 15 years ago after I got hit by a car, I was looking through the itemized expenses and couldn't believe the cost on some things. For example each day I was there they charged a meal expense of about $75 per meal. The actual meal was a hotdog that was microwaved for two minutes, shriveled up and rubbery with a side of frozen corn, also microwaved, with one of those little jello dessert items. Total cost at the local grocery store would be about $3. Another example is they charged me $50 for bringing me 2 ibuprofin pills (which were over the counter strength).

The $50 was for paid for the nurse (who spent time getting a license) to take you those two pills. No one forced them into you, I'm assuming? You could have said hey, what are those? Nah, I really don't need 2 otc ibuprofen.

I'm in the wrong fucking field if I can go into nursing and make $50 for 2 minutes of work.
You're obviously a doctor or you play one on the internet and defend your side of it, but you have already admitted that it is COMMON PRACTICE for the hospitals and doctors to commit insurance fraud as a game to get paid. How about if ALL hospitals and Doctors were honest and billed accordingly, insurance companies wouldn't fight every bill, thus they wouldn't have to have higher premiums to pay all the claims adjustors to go over all the bogus bills the hospital and dr's sent them?
You can play mr. nice guy and claim it isn't your fault, but as a whole it is your professions fault.
Me and all the rest of us non doctors/hospital workers are the ones gettign fucked.

I really feel bad for you, if you honestly believe what you wrote. I never said it was common practice for anyone to commit insurance fraud. Negotiating reimbursements are part of the process, and fees for services are based on cast and reimbursement scales. There's nothing wrong with setting prices based on expected expenditures/revenues. All businesses do that. I'm just saying you need to realize that negotiation between hospital/payer is part of the business.

Also, you seem to think that health care workers get care for free? We pay the same medical bills as anyone else and are consumers in the same system. It's got a myriad of problems .. ignorant rants from consumers are a big part.

 

[txrandom]

You have to pay for the illegal immigrants somehow...

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: iFX

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
our healthcare system is effed up and needs a full reform.

You want to see a messed up health care system go to Canada where it's illegal to see a doctor out of turn, even if you're dying. Our system might not be perfect but it's pretty damn good.

...so much FUD it's retarded.

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

Originally posted by: sao123
[*]A broken bone (call your doctor to see if he/she can treat you the same day, if not? or if bone is showing, limb is deformed?go to the ER).

That depends a lot on the circumstances. For a broken bone that would NOT require surgery I would say yeah, don't go. But how is a normal person supposed to know that?

 

[TheVrolok]

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

Originally posted by: sao123
[*]A broken bone (call your doctor to see if he/she can treat you the same day, if not? or if bone is showing, limb is deformed?go to the ER).

That depends a lot on the circumstances. For a broken bone that would NOT require surgery I would say yeah, don't go. But how is a normal person supposed to know that?

I'd say that one also depends on time of day. If the injury occurs say.. late afternoon on a Friday and for whatever reason you won't be able to see your PCP till Monday, then hell with it. Go to the ER. A splint could be a good thing even if it isn't broken.

 

[Squisher]

One of my favorite chain mails:


Doctors Vs. Guns


Doctors

(A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is 700,000.

(B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year are 120,000.

(C) Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171.

(Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of Health and Human Services.)


Now think about this: Guns


(A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. 80,000,000. (Yes, that's 80 million)

(B) The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1,500.

(C) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is .000188.

(Statistics courtesy of FBI)

 

[txrandom]

Originally posted by: Squisher
One of my favorite chain mails:


Doctors Vs. Guns


Doctors

(A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is 700,000.

(B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year are 120,000.

(C) Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171.

(Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of Health and Human Services.)


Now think about this: Guns


(A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. 80,000,000. (Yes, that's 80 million)

(B) The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1,500.

(C) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is .000188.

(Statistics courtesy of FBI)

We need to ban doctors!

 

[TheVrolok]

Originally posted by: txrandom
We need to ban doctors!

From my cold dead hands! .. erm.. 🙁

 

[agibby5]

Originally posted by: iFX

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: iFX

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
our healthcare system is effed up and needs a full reform.

You want to see a messed up health care system go to Canada where it's illegal to see a doctor out of turn, even if you're dying. Our system might not be perfect but it's pretty damn good.

Dying people don't get priority?

Click.

I just watched this video. If you need something you can't get quickly, you'll have to pay more. Supply and demand. However, why would it be mandated 'NO PRIVATE PAYMENTS'? That sounds totally ridiculous! If you choose to go outside the regular means to get something, I'm sure you'll always pay more, and that's fine because that's your choice. Also, don't go asking for a reimbursement when you were told no, or did so without permission.

Think about the same situation in the USA. Suppose you couldn't afford health care. Sure, you'd get a MRI tomorrow or even today if it's urgent. But you'd also be faced with a $4500 bill just for the test. How would you come up with the money to have the cancer removed? Would you just go in and have it done knowing you would never be able to pay for it? Short answer, someone else will pay for it through their insurance premiums, or hospital goodwill, etc. At least with this single payer system (government payments), you'd have a scheduled date for the test, removal, follow up, etc. However, I'm by no means satisfied that they were given such a long wait time just to have the test, let alone an even longer wait time for the surgery to remove the cancer.

Now, let me pose a question. If this couple weren't satisfied with the time-frame their doctor gave them, couldn't they go to another doctor near them? Couldn't they travel somewhere else in Canada and get more prompt service for such an urgent situation?

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: TheVrolok

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Doesnt it feel wonderful to pay those huge ass medical personel salaries, especially for boobery and incompetance? One of the true pleasures in life. :disgust:

I suppose it feels as wonderful as being completely ignorant of the topic. :roll:

Let me guess, you are one of pigs at the trough? Shame on you sir!

Nurses dont need to collect 6 figures. I dont care what you say. Dont care. Neither do staff. They are bloated pigs that need to be slaughtered.

Nationalize heathcare and regulate salaries. Quality be damned. I used to argue for the "the other side", but I can see now I was wrong. The system we have now of runaway costs including exorbitant salaries unsustainable.

Not that many nurses collect six figure salaries. RN's avg around $70k, and this includes the pricey, private care facilities. LPN's avg around $40k.

For you to advocate the "slaughter" of healthcare workers is sickening.

My g/f is a former nurse. She took lots of shit from patients. She had patients beat her, and yet couldn't fight back - there would have been a lawsuit had she done so.

She's permanently disabled in one knee due to an accident resulting from patient care.

I sincerely hope you don't actually wish for the death of a particular group that includes some wonderful people.

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: TheVrolok

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

Originally posted by: sao123
[*]A broken bone (call your doctor to see if he/she can treat you the same day, if not? or if bone is showing, limb is deformed?go to the ER).

That depends a lot on the circumstances. For a broken bone that would NOT require surgery I would say yeah, don't go. But how is a normal person supposed to know that?

I'd say that one also depends on time of day. If the injury occurs say.. late afternoon on a Friday and for whatever reason you won't be able to see your PCP till Monday, then hell with it. Go to the ER. A splint could be a good thing even if it isn't broken.

Which is exactly when it happened (3pm-ish on a Friday). And, as previously stated, I didn't go to the ER so sao123 can take his list and leave 🙂

 

[FelixDeCat]

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: TheVrolok

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Doesnt it feel wonderful to pay those huge ass medical personel salaries, especially for boobery and incompetance? One of the true pleasures in life. :disgust:

I suppose it feels as wonderful as being completely ignorant of the topic. :roll:

Let me guess, you are one of pigs at the trough? Shame on you sir!

Nurses dont need to collect 6 figures. I dont care what you say. Dont care. Neither do staff. They are bloated pigs that need to be slaughtered.

Nationalize heathcare and regulate salaries. Quality be damned. I used to argue for the "the other side", but I can see now I was wrong. The system we have now of runaway costs including exorbitant salaries unsustainable.

Not that many nurses collect six figure salaries. RN's avg around $70k, and this includes the pricey, private care facilities. LPN's avg around $40k.

For you to advocate the "slaughter" of healthcare workers is sickening.

My g/f is a former nurse. She took lots of shit from patients. She had patients beat her, and yet couldn't fight back - there would have been a lawsuit had she done so.

She's permanently disabled in one knee due to an accident resulting from patient care.

I sincerely hope you don't actually wish for the death of a particular group that includes some wonderful people.

I did lack surgical precision. I dont think throwing people in a wood chipper would help much in the way of reducing healthcare costs, but lowering salaries to an amount that we can afford to pay would be a start. So I guess I should have been more clear, it was the bloat I see in the salaries of not only nurses but all staff. Everytime I look at a healthcare job online or in the paper locally I see some pretty big figures with hefty sign on bonuses. Sure we can argue all day long about comparable work and the salaries of baseball players, cops, teachers and astronauts. Anesthesiologists dont need to make $400,000 per year. Sorry. 🙁

I wish you and your gf well, and affordable universal healthcare for all. I used to oppose it, but now I see no other option.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: TheVrolok

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Doesnt it feel wonderful to pay those huge ass medical personel salaries, especially for boobery and incompetance? One of the true pleasures in life. :disgust:

I suppose it feels as wonderful as being completely ignorant of the topic. :roll:

Let me guess, you are one of pigs at the trough? Shame on you sir!

Nurses dont need to collect 6 figures. I dont care what you say. Dont care. Neither do staff. They are bloated pigs that need to be slaughtered.

Nationalize heathcare and regulate salaries. Quality be damned. I used to argue for the "the other side", but I can see now I was wrong. The system we have now of runaway costs including exorbitant salaries unsustainable.

Not that many nurses collect six figure salaries. RN's avg around $70k, and this includes the pricey, private care facilities. LPN's avg around $40k.

For you to advocate the "slaughter" of healthcare workers is sickening.

My g/f is a former nurse. She took lots of shit from patients. She had patients beat her, and yet couldn't fight back - there would have been a lawsuit had she done so.

She's permanently disabled in one knee due to an accident resulting from patient care.

I sincerely hope you don't actually wish for the death of a particular group that includes some wonderful people.

Er, you think he was actually advocating violence? I think it was a hyperbolic way of saying to trim the fat.

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: TheVrolok

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Doesnt it feel wonderful to pay those huge ass medical personel salaries, especially for boobery and incompetance? One of the true pleasures in life. :disgust:

I suppose it feels as wonderful as being completely ignorant of the topic. :roll:

Let me guess, you are one of pigs at the trough? Shame on you sir!

Nurses dont need to collect 6 figures. I dont care what you say. Dont care. Neither do staff. They are bloated pigs that need to be slaughtered.

Nationalize heathcare and regulate salaries. Quality be damned. I used to argue for the "the other side", but I can see now I was wrong. The system we have now of runaway costs including exorbitant salaries unsustainable.

Not that many nurses collect six figure salaries. RN's avg around $70k, and this includes the pricey, private care facilities. LPN's avg around $40k.

For you to advocate the "slaughter" of healthcare workers is sickening.

My g/f is a former nurse. She took lots of shit from patients. She had patients beat her, and yet couldn't fight back - there would have been a lawsuit had she done so.

She's permanently disabled in one knee due to an accident resulting from patient care.

I sincerely hope you don't actually wish for the death of a particular group that includes some wonderful people.

Er, you think he was actually advocating violence? I think it was a hyperbolic way of saying to trim the fat.

FDK could have suggested a mandatory weight-reduction curriculum... 😉

 

[Whisper]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: TheVrolok

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Doesnt it feel wonderful to pay those huge ass medical personel salaries, especially for boobery and incompetance? One of the true pleasures in life. :disgust:

I suppose it feels as wonderful as being completely ignorant of the topic. :roll:

Let me guess, you are one of pigs at the trough? Shame on you sir!

Nurses dont need to collect 6 figures. I dont care what you say. Dont care. Neither do staff. They are bloated pigs that need to be slaughtered.

Nationalize heathcare and regulate salaries. Quality be damned. I used to argue for the "the other side", but I can see now I was wrong. The system we have now of runaway costs including exorbitant salaries unsustainable.

Not that many nurses collect six figure salaries. RN's avg around $70k, and this includes the pricey, private care facilities. LPN's avg around $40k.

For you to advocate the "slaughter" of healthcare workers is sickening.

My g/f is a former nurse. She took lots of shit from patients. She had patients beat her, and yet couldn't fight back - there would have been a lawsuit had she done so.

She's permanently disabled in one knee due to an accident resulting from patient care.

I sincerely hope you don't actually wish for the death of a particular group that includes some wonderful people.

I did lack surgical precision. I dont think throwing people in a wood chipper would help much in the way of reducing healthcare costs, but lowering salaries to an amount that we can afford to pay would be a start. So I guess I should have been more clear, it was the bloat I see in the salaries of not only nurses but all staff. Everytime I look at a healthcare job online or in the paper locally I see some pretty big figures with hefty sign on bonuses. Sure we can argue all day long about comparable work and the salaries of baseball players, cops, teachers and astronauts. Anesthesiologists dont need to make $400,000 per year. Sorry. 🙁

I wish you and your gf well, and affordable universal healthcare for all. I used to oppose it, but now I see no other option.

IMHO, most RNs make about what they're worth (~$70k or thereabouts, I believe), as a competent nurse is a wonderful thing.

As for sign-on bonuses, I could be wrong with regard to your experiences, but those usually seem to pop up when a particular area is underserved and NEEDS help fast.

Are some healthcare workers overpaid? Certainly, just as in any other field. Are the majority of them overpaid? No (at least not in my opinion). And no, I'm not a healthcare worker.

 

[TheVrolok]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Anesthesiologists dont need to make $400,000 per year. Sorry. 🙁

I'd like to know your rationale for that statement. Are you willing to go to school for 4 years of undergrad, 4 years of medical school, then multiple additional years for specialization? All so you can pick up a fairly stressful and extremely important specialty. These are highly trained and certified individuals who need to be very exact with what they do. I'm curious, since you do seem to have all the necessary understanding, what would you suggest they make? Don't forget to keep in mind that they're also paying somewhere around 20k annually just in malpractice insurance.

What's absurd is the amount of people out there - yourself included - that think what you pay goes right into doctor/nurse pockets. Are you guys serious? You can't possibly be that obtuse. You do realize they may only see a fraction of that bill.

 

[Whisper]

Originally posted by: TheVrolok

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Anesthesiologists dont need to make $400,000 per year. Sorry. 🙁

I'd like to know your rationale for that statement. Are you willing to go to school for 4 years of undergrad, 4 years of medical school, then multiple additional years for specialization? All so you can pick up a fairly stressful and extremely important specialty. These are highly trained and certified individuals who need to be very exact with what they do. I'm curious, since you do seem to have all the necessary understanding, what would you suggest they make? Don't forget to keep in mind that they're also paying somewhere around 20k annually just in malpractice insurance.

What's absurd is the amount of people out there - yourself included - that think what you pay goes right into doctor/nurse pockets. Are you guys serious? You can't possibly be that obtuse. You do realize they may only see a fraction of that bill.

On a tangentially-related note: $20k for malpractice insurance? Wow, that's actually a bargain compared to the numbers I've heard thrown around ($80k+/year). Then again, that was with respect to surgeons, who likely have somewhat higher premiums.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: sao123
mebe you should realize that you dont go to the ER for a broken bone???

Text
you insurance will tell you, you ER should tell you, your PCP will tell you...

MAKE AN APPOINTMENT AT AN OTHOPEDIC SPECIALIST


Bad Reasons to Go to an Emergency Room:

[*]Earache.
[*]Minor cuts where bleeding is controlled.
[*]A minor dog or animal bite where bleeding is controlled (but see your doctor?a rabies shot may be necessary).
[*]A broken bone (call your doctor to see if he/she can treat you the same day, if not? or if bone is showing, limb is deformed?go to the ER).
[*]A sprain.
[*]A sunburn or minor burn from cooking.
[*]An insect sting or delayed swelling from a sting (if there is breathing difficulty, go to the ER).
[*]A skin rash.
[*]Fever (if there is a convulsion, go to the ER).
[*]Sexually-transmitted diseases.
[*]Colds and cough, sore throat, flu.

i ran my hand through with a knife one time, had the bleeding controlled. still needed stitches tho, the entry was almost 1.5" and the exit was about 3/4". this was on a saturday nite in a small town with no "urgent care" facilities. since the bleeding was controlled, was i supposed to just wing it till monday and go see my regular doc? hell no. emergency room it was. probably would have been better off waiting tho, the doc that sewed me up was an idiot, put 7 stitches total in my hand. but i got a couple bitching scars from it lol