Was Jesus a Christian?

[ubergeekmeister]

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: ubergeekmeister
I don't know jack sh*t about Jewish religion, just saying, he didn't like it so he created his own. Which seems like a good thing because there is a lot more christians than jewish'ians. LOL

No, that is not the way it happened.

Clearly. You were there. So how did it happen?

 

[CoolTech]

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: AbAbber2k

Originally posted by: ubergeekmeister
He was Jewish until he realised what a dead end religion it was.

Define dead-end. You mean because the Jewish population isn't coerced into running around trying to convert everything that moves?

Jews don't try to convert people because they believe non-Jews are inferior.

Christians believe God loves everyone.

lol, i know jews and they do not believe they are superior by any means, what an asanine statement

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: CoolTech

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: AbAbber2k

Originally posted by: ubergeekmeister
He was Jewish until he realised what a dead end religion it was.

Define dead-end. You mean because the Jewish population isn't coerced into running around trying to convert everything that moves?

Jews don't try to convert people because they believe non-Jews are inferior.

Christians believe God loves everyone.

lol, i know jews and they do not believe they are superior by any means, what an asanine statement

Have you read the Bible? I'm going to guess the answer is 'no'.

The Jews believe they are "God's chosen people" and anyone not Jewish is not.

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: CoolTech

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: AbAbber2k

Originally posted by: ubergeekmeister
He was Jewish until he realised what a dead end religion it was.

Define dead-end. You mean because the Jewish population isn't coerced into running around trying to convert everything that moves?

Jews don't try to convert people because they believe non-Jews are inferior.

Christians believe God loves everyone.

lol, i know jews and they do not believe they are superior by any means, what an asanine statement

What's asinine is your spelling of asinine.

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: ubergeekmeister

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: ubergeekmeister
I don't know jack sh*t about Jewish religion, just saying, he didn't like it so he created his own. Which seems like a good thing because there is a lot more christians than jewish'ians. LOL

No, that is not the way it happened.

Clearly. You were there. So how did it happen?

Let's suppose that all of the documents written about Jesus are wrong and that you are correct.

That would mean that one day Jesus said to himself, "I'm tired of being a carpenter, I think I'll start a new religion!"

He then spent the next three years living the life of a man of poor wealth walking from city to city, being ridiculed and laughed at.

Then, knowing the Jews wanted to kill him, he dediced to walk into their main city fully aware that doing so would lead to him being beaten, spit on, and crucified.

Yeah, sounds like a fun time.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: ubergeekmeister

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: ubergeekmeister
I don't know jack sh*t about Jewish religion, just saying, he didn't like it so he created his own. Which seems like a good thing because there is a lot more christians than jewish'ians. LOL

No, that is not the way it happened.

Clearly. You were there. So how did it happen?

Let's suppose that all of the documents written about Jesus are wrong and that you are correct.

That would mean that one day Jesus said to himself, "I'm tired of being a carpenter, I think I'll start a new religion!"

He then spent the next three years living the life of a man of poor wealth walking from city to city, being ridiculed and laughed at.

Then, knowing the Jews wanted to kill him, he dediced to walk into their main city fully aware that doing so would lead to him being beaten, spit on, and crucified.

Yeah, sounds like a fun time.

Wouldn't be the first or last person to do so.

 

[Locut0s]

He was Jewish

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: ubergeekmeister

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: ubergeekmeister
I don't know jack sh*t about Jewish religion, just saying, he didn't like it so he created his own. Which seems like a good thing because there is a lot more christians than jewish'ians. LOL

No, that is not the way it happened.

Clearly. You were there. So how did it happen?

Let's suppose that all of the documents written about Jesus are wrong and that you are correct.

That would mean that one day Jesus said to himself, "I'm tired of being a carpenter, I think I'll start a new religion!"

He then spent the next three years living the life of a man of poor wealth walking from city to city, being ridiculed and laughed at.

Then, knowing the Jews wanted to kill him, he dediced to walk into their main city fully aware that doing so would lead to him being beaten, spit on, and crucified.

Yeah, sounds like a fun time.

Wouldn't be the first or last person to do so.

Who are some of the others? Names? Links to stories/documents about them?

 

[CoolTech]

Originally posted by: pulse8

Originally posted by: CoolTech

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: AbAbber2k

Originally posted by: ubergeekmeister
He was Jewish until he realised what a dead end religion it was.

Define dead-end. You mean because the Jewish population isn't coerced into running around trying to convert everything that moves?

Jews don't try to convert people because they believe non-Jews are inferior.

Christians believe God loves everyone.

lol, i know jews and they do not believe they are superior by any means, what an asanine statement

What's asinine is your spelling of asinine.

ok spelling nazi

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: hjo3

Originally posted by: bradruth
No, how could he be? He was Jewish.

People say that a lot, but I've never known a Jew who called himself the son of God... I do believe that would be considered blasphemy in Judaism.

Which is exactly what they crucified him for.

I'm pretty sure *THEY* () crucified Jesus because there was a bit of civil unrest. *THEY* didn't care either way about Jesus.

 

[Amused]

Christianity should really be called "Paulism" because Paul is largely responsible for most of it. And most of the crap people follow is the word of Paul and not from the four Gospels.

At any rate, Jesus was a Jew, and never claimed to be anything else.

Many believe his "son of god" claims have been perverted and that he meant we are all the children of god. Many age of enlightenment scholars, including many of our Founding Fathers believed that all of Paul, and the claims of divinity were corruptions of the Gospels.

"Of this band of dupes and impostors, Paul was the great Corypheus, and first corrupter of the doctrines of Jesus"
--Thomas Jefferson

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Amused
Christianity should really be called "Paulism" because Paul is largely responsible for most of it. And most of the crap people follow is the word of Paul and not from the four Gospels.

At any rate, Jesus was a Jew, and never claimed to be anything else.

Many believe his "son of god" claims have been perverted and that he meant we are all the children of god. Many age of enlightenment scholars, including many of our Founding Fathers believed that all of Paul, and the claims of divinity were corruptions of the Gospels.

"Of this band of dupes and impostors, Paul was the great Corypheus, and first corrupter of the doctrines of Jesus"
--Thomas Jefferson

Hmm, interesting.

 

[Whitecloak]

nobody fu[/i]cks with da jesus!

 

[PatboyX]

Originally posted by: Amused
Christianity should really be called "Paulism" because Paul is largely responsible for most of it. And most of the crap people follow is the word of Paul and not from the four Gospels.

At any rate, Jesus was a Jew, and never claimed to be anything else.

Many believe his "son of god" claims have been perverted and that he meant we are all the children of god. Many age of enlightenment scholars, including many of our Founding Fathers believed that all of Paul, and the claims of divinity were corruptions of the Gospels.

"Of this band of dupes and impostors, Paul was the great Corypheus, and first corrupter of the doctrines of Jesus"
--Thomas Jefferson

thank god (no pun intended) there are some intelligent responses in this thread.
i mean, im not religious but peoples perception of jews and christians shown here is astounding. i had no idea people thought this way.

 

[13Gigatons]

Jesus came for the Jews they rejected him so he choose the gentiles but they were loud, drunk and stupid so he said screw it just crucify me already. The End.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: hjo3

Originally posted by: bradruth
No, how could he be? He was Jewish.

People say that a lot, but I've never known a Jew who called himself the son of God... I do believe that would be considered blasphemy in Judaism.

Well, maybe unless it was the almighty itself who told you so.

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Christianity is the following of the teachings of Jesus....

So he WAS a Christian, since one would assume he followed his own teachings.

 

[crisscross]

Originally posted by: Amused
Christianity should really be called "Paulism" because Paul is largely responsible for most of it. And most of the crap people follow is the word of Paul and not from the four Gospels.

At any rate, Jesus was a Jew, and never claimed to be anything else.

Many believe his "son of god" claims have been perverted and that he meant we are all the children of god. Many age of enlightenment scholars, including many of our Founding Fathers believed that all of Paul, and the claims of divinity were corruptions of the Gospels.

"Of this band of dupes and impostors, Paul was the great Corypheus, and first corrupter of the doctrines of Jesus"
--Thomas Jefferson

Very interesting... any good sites where i can read up a bit more on this?

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: crisscross

Originally posted by: Amused
Christianity should really be called "Paulism" because Paul is largely responsible for most of it. And most of the crap people follow is the word of Paul and not from the four Gospels.

At any rate, Jesus was a Jew, and never claimed to be anything else.

Many believe his "son of god" claims have been perverted and that he meant we are all the children of god. Many age of enlightenment scholars, including many of our Founding Fathers believed that all of Paul, and the claims of divinity were corruptions of the Gospels.

"Of this band of dupes and impostors, Paul was the great Corypheus, and first corrupter of the doctrines of Jesus"
--Thomas Jefferson

Very interesting... any good sites where i can read up a bit more on this?

Read up a bit on Jefferson here:

http://www.infidels.org/library/histori.../six_historic_americans/chapter_2.html

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

He was born a Jew (race) but was NOT a Jew (Jewish faith) because he went around rebuking silly Jewish laws.

 

[Chiller2]

I am not a religious scholar but my understanding was Jesus was a Jew but he wanted to reform the Jewish faith take a lot of power away from the leaders and give it to the lay people. He also wanted to expand it to other people besides the Jews and they crucified him for it. After his death Paul expanded on his teaching and went around the world teaching and establishing churches. Among some of the radical Ideas at the time were that you did not have to follow certain cultral beliefs (such as circumsism) to worship God. His letters to the Churches he founded formed the basis for modern Christianity.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Chiller2
I am not a religious scholar but my understanding was Jesus was a Jew but he wanted to reform the Jewish faith take a lot of power away from the leaders and give it to the lay people. He also wanted to expand it to other people besides the Jews and they crucified him for it. After his death Paul expanded on his teaching and went around the world teaching and establishing churches. Among some of the radical Ideas at the time were that you did not have to follow certain cultral beliefs (such as circumsism) to worship God. His letters to the Churches he founded formed the basis for modern Christianity.

I dunno, I'd say Christianity is based on the Sermon on the Mount starting in Matthew 5.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Chiller2
I am not a religious scholar but my understanding was Jesus was a Jew but he wanted to reform the Jewish faith take a lot of power away from the leaders and give it to the lay people. He also wanted to expand it to other people besides the Jews and they crucified him for it. After his death Paul expanded on his teaching and went around the world teaching and establishing churches. Among some of the radical Ideas at the time were that you did not have to follow certain cultral beliefs (such as circumsism) to worship God. His letters to the Churches he founded formed the basis for modern Christianity.

I dunno, I'd say Christianity is based on the Sermon on the Mount starting in Matthew 5.

Um, no. The vast majority of Catholicism and Christianity is based on Paul (basically all the books following the four Gospels). Paul was the creator of the Christian religion.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Chiller2
I am not a religious scholar but my understanding was Jesus was a Jew but he wanted to reform the Jewish faith take a lot of power away from the leaders and give it to the lay people. He also wanted to expand it to other people besides the Jews and they crucified him for it. After his death Paul expanded on his teaching and went around the world teaching and establishing churches. Among some of the radical Ideas at the time were that you did not have to follow certain cultral beliefs (such as circumsism) to worship God. His letters to the Churches he founded formed the basis for modern Christianity.

I dunno, I'd say Christianity is based on the Sermon on the Mount starting in Matthew 5.

Modern Christianity and the church as an institution relies almost entirely upon Paul's writings and recommendations. The Sermon on the mount gets a lot of lip-service and even more genuine embrace from the church, but the basic tenants and the organizational structure are owed to Paul. Just look at Romans, it encompasses every necessary belief/practice for the church (albeit in brief).

ZV

 

[Scarpozzi]

I was sitting back sippin' the jesus juice and eating crackers'!!!