Was Jesus a Christian?

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DBL

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Originally posted by: DAGTA
Jews don't try to convert people because they believe non-Jews are inferior.

Christians believe God loves everyone.

With comments like yours, could you blame them?
 

nakedfrog

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Apr 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: crisscross
Originally posted by: Amused
Christianity should really be called "Paulism" because Paul is largely responsible for most of it. And most of the crap people follow is the word of Paul and not from the four Gospels.

At any rate, Jesus was a Jew, and never claimed to be anything else.

Many believe his "son of god" claims have been perverted and that he meant we are all the children of god. Many age of enlightenment scholars, including many of our Founding Fathers believed that all of Paul, and the claims of divinity were corruptions of the Gospels.

"Of this band of dupes and impostors, Paul was the great Corypheus, and first corrupter of the doctrines of Jesus"
--Thomas Jefferson

Very interesting... any good sites where i can read up a bit more on this?

Check out Jefferson's Bible.
 

nakedfrog

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Apr 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: CoolTech
Originally posted by: MX2times
God, I hope not

Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Christianity is the teaching of extreme hypocrisy


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rofll, if thats the case, why can't u get elected in this country without proporting to be Christian?

I don't get it. Are you under the impression that we have politicians who aren't hypocrites?
 

Amused

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Apr 14, 2001
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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: crisscross
Originally posted by: Amused
Christianity should really be called "Paulism" because Paul is largely responsible for most of it. And most of the crap people follow is the word of Paul and not from the four Gospels.

At any rate, Jesus was a Jew, and never claimed to be anything else.

Many believe his "son of god" claims have been perverted and that he meant we are all the children of god. Many age of enlightenment scholars, including many of our Founding Fathers believed that all of Paul, and the claims of divinity were corruptions of the Gospels.

"Of this band of dupes and impostors, Paul was the great Corypheus, and first corrupter of the doctrines of Jesus"
--Thomas Jefferson

Very interesting... any good sites where i can read up a bit more on this?

Check out Jefferson's Bible.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de...807077143/002-8655969-5941600?v=glance
 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: crisscross
Originally posted by: Amused
Christianity should really be called "Paulism" because Paul is largely responsible for most of it. And most of the crap people follow is the word of Paul and not from the four Gospels.

At any rate, Jesus was a Jew, and never claimed to be anything else.

Many believe his "son of god" claims have been perverted and that he meant we are all the children of god. Many age of enlightenment scholars, including many of our Founding Fathers believed that all of Paul, and the claims of divinity were corruptions of the Gospels.

"Of this band of dupes and impostors, Paul was the great Corypheus, and first corrupter of the doctrines of Jesus"
--Thomas Jefferson

Very interesting... any good sites where i can read up a bit more on this?

Read up a bit on Jefferson here:

http://www.infidels.org/library/histori.../six_historic_americans/chapter_2.html

Thanks amused!

after reading about the bible i want to read his bible. im going to hit the local library and see if they have any.
 

DaShen

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Dec 1, 2000
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Originally posted by: hjo3
Originally posted by: bradruth
No, how could he be? He was Jewish.
People say that a lot, but I've never known a Jew who called himself the son of God... I do believe that would be considered blasphemy in Judaism.

QFT
 

BurnItDwn

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Oct 10, 1999
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Jesus who?
and are you sure you are talking about a guy named "jesus" and didn't misinterpret someone saying "Hey Zeus" to a guy named Zeus?
 
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Originally posted by: hjo3
Originally posted by: bradruth
No, how could he be? He was Jewish.
People say that a lot, but I've never known a Jew who called himself the son of God... I do believe that would be considered blasphemy in Judaism.

thats cause in the jewish faith, he isnt god
 

sixone

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Originally posted by: CoolTech
Originally posted by: MX2times
God, I hope not

Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Christianity is the teaching of extreme hypocrisy


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rofll, if thats the case, why can't u get elected in this country without proporting to be Christian?

I don't believe that Joe Lieberman ever claimed to be Christian. I'd bet he's not the only Jewish elected official in all of America.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: hjo3
Originally posted by: bradruth
No, how could he be? He was Jewish.
People say that a lot, but I've never known a Jew who called himself the son of God... I do believe that would be considered blasphemy in Judaism.
Which is exactly what they crucified him for.
I'm pretty sure *THEY* (;)) crucified Jesus because there was a bit of civil unrest. *THEY* didn't care either way about Jesus.
LOL. I think I deserved that. As it is, *THEY* in this usage is clearly defined as the Sanhedrin iin Matthew 26:57-67, and the capital crime they charged Jesus with was blasphemy.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: CoolTech
Originally posted by: MX2times
God, I hope not

Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Christianity is the teaching of extreme hypocrisy


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rofll, if thats the case, why can't u get elected in this country without proporting to be Christian?

I don't believe that Joe Lieberman ever claimed to be Christian. I'd bet he's not the only Jewish elected official in all of America.

Here's just a list of the House of Representatives:

Jewish Reps state by state:
1. Gary Akerman ( N.Y.)
2. Eliot Engle ( N.Y.)
3. Steve Israel ( N.Y.)
4. Nita Lowey (N.Y.)
5. Jerry Nadler ( N.Y.)
6. Anthony Weiner ( N.Y.)
7. Shelley Berkley (Nev.)
8. Howard Berman (Calif.)
9. Susan Davis (Calif.)
10. Bob Filner (Calif.)
11. Jane Harman (Calif.)
12. Tomas Lantos (Calif.)
13. Adam Schiff (Calif.)
14. Brad Sherman (Calif.)
15. Howard Waxman (Calif.)
16. Eric Cantor (Va.)
17. Ben Cardin (Md.)
18. Peter Deutsch (Fla.)
19. Robert Wexler (Fla.)
20. Rahm Emanuel (Ill.)
21. Jan Schakowsky (Ill.)
22. Barney Frank (Mass.)
23. Martin Frost (Texas)
24. Sander Levin (Mich.)
25. Steve Rothman (N.J.)
26. Steve Sanders (Vt.)

Oh yeah... :roll: only Christians get elected. :roll:
 

sandorski

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: ubergeekmeister
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: ubergeekmeister
I don't know jack sh*t about Jewish religion, just saying, he didn't like it so he created his own. Which seems like a good thing because there is a lot more christians than jewish'ians. LOL

No, that is not the way it happened.


Clearly. You were there. So how did it happen?

Let's suppose that all of the documents written about Jesus are wrong and that you are correct.

That would mean that one day Jesus said to himself, "I'm tired of being a carpenter, I think I'll start a new religion!"

He then spent the next three years living the life of a man of poor wealth walking from city to city, being ridiculed and laughed at.

Then, knowing the Jews wanted to kill him, he dediced to walk into their main city fully aware that doing so would lead to him being beaten, spit on, and crucified.

Yeah, sounds like a fun time.

Wouldn't be the first or last person to do so.

Who are some of the others? Names? Links to stories/documents about them?

David Koresh
Suicide Bombers
Heavens Gate
dozens of other Cults

None of them went through the exact same things, but they all gave up their lives for their beliefs, faced ridicule, abandoned careers, etc.
 

Orsorum

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Judging by the behavior of most modern Christians, I'd say Jesus was a better person than that.
 

sixone

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: CoolTech
Originally posted by: MX2times
God, I hope not

Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Christianity is the teaching of extreme hypocrisy


Fixed

rofll, if thats the case, why can't u get elected in this country without proporting to be Christian?

I don't believe that Joe Lieberman ever claimed to be Christian. I'd bet he's not the only Jewish elected official in all of America.

Here's just a list of the House of Representatives:

Jewish Reps state by state:
1. Gary Akerman ( N.Y.)
2. Eliot Engle ( N.Y.)
3. Steve Israel ( N.Y.)
4. Nita Lowey (N.Y.)
5. Jerry Nadler ( N.Y.)
6. Anthony Weiner ( N.Y.)
7. Shelley Berkley (Nev.)
8. Howard Berman (Calif.)
9. Susan Davis (Calif.)
10. Bob Filner (Calif.)
11. Jane Harman (Calif.)
12. Tomas Lantos (Calif.)
13. Adam Schiff (Calif.)
14. Brad Sherman (Calif.)
15. Howard Waxman (Calif.)
16. Eric Cantor (Va.)
17. Ben Cardin (Md.)
18. Peter Deutsch (Fla.)
19. Robert Wexler (Fla.)
20. Rahm Emanuel (Ill.)
21. Jan Schakowsky (Ill.)
22. Barney Frank (Mass.)
23. Martin Frost (Texas)
24. Sander Levin (Mich.)
25. Steve Rothman (N.J.)
26. Steve Sanders (Vt.)

Oh yeah... :roll: only Christians get elected. :roll:
:beer:

That was a lot of work. I figured he would cling deperately to his ignorance, so I didn't bother.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Aug 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: Orsorum
Judging by the behavior of most modern Christians, I'd say Jesus was a better person than that.

If Christians had acted properly in the first place, Paul wouldn't have had to keep writing those fvcking letters telling them to wise the hell up.
 

DAGTA

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: ubergeekmeister
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: ubergeekmeister
I don't know jack sh*t about Jewish religion, just saying, he didn't like it so he created his own. Which seems like a good thing because there is a lot more christians than jewish'ians. LOL

No, that is not the way it happened.


Clearly. You were there. So how did it happen?

Let's suppose that all of the documents written about Jesus are wrong and that you are correct.

That would mean that one day Jesus said to himself, "I'm tired of being a carpenter, I think I'll start a new religion!"

He then spent the next three years living the life of a man of poor wealth walking from city to city, being ridiculed and laughed at.

Then, knowing the Jews wanted to kill him, he dediced to walk into their main city fully aware that doing so would lead to him being beaten, spit on, and crucified.

Yeah, sounds like a fun time.

Wouldn't be the first or last person to do so.

Who are some of the others? Names? Links to stories/documents about them?

David Koresh
Suicide Bombers
Heavens Gate
dozens of other Cults

None of them went through the exact same things, but they all gave up their lives for their beliefs, faced ridicule, abandoned careers, etc.


Perhaps try reading the Bible so you don't sound so ignorant.