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randomlinh

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Originally posted by: xgsound
It's a lot of people from out of town that ; 1. don't know where they are going 2. are under emotional distress 3. The services are only held this one time 4. don't worry , everybody gets this "privilege" once.
Jim

That doesn't give them any right to disobey the law. Hell, there could be a small gap in the procession, and an oncoming vehical may not have seen the herse.. and voom, a nice little accident for another funeral.

my point is, if this happens, there should be some kind of police escort. not just blindly following a herse.

 

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No Lifer
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if they don't have cops to handle traffic they should fvck off and not be running red lights; you were in the right.
 

Baked

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Originally posted by: Rhin0
A: You're going to hell.

Big time. What's w/ today's people having lack of respect for anybody, including the dead.
 

Mustangrrl

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If you knew it was a funeral procession and still cut through, that would have been tasteless, but you didn't know until after the fact, so what can you do? It's not like you're sitting there giggling about it!

When my sister died, I was in the car right behind the hearse, some girl tried to cut me off, even though we had a police escort and it should have been obvious it was a funeral. She cut my dad off in the vehicle behind me. She was tailgaiting, honking, flipping me off, screaming "Pull over, bitch," which was actually funny because I would have knocked her out if I had. She finally realized she cut into a funeral procession and made a quit right back into her neighborhood.
 

Black88GTA

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Originally posted by: Baked
Originally posted by: Rhin0
A: You're going to hell.

Big time. What's w/ today's people having lack of respect for anybody, including the dead.

Can you read? I had NO IDEA it was a funeral procession, until I looked in the mirror and saw all the cars blowing the light. :roll:

I obviously wouldn't have cut through if there was SOME INDICATOR that it was a funeral procession.
 

chrisms

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Reminds me of the time I delivered a pizza to a hospital. I was having trouble finding the doctor and walked up to this reference desk. It looked like the lady who worked there was just chatting with a co-worker or something in the next room, so I asked for directions. After asking her again she looked at me funny and I realize the next room was a waiting room, and that she was telling some very bad news to some lady who was crying.

Oh well. We aren't even supposed to deliver that far away anyways.
 

xgsound

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Originally posted by: lnguyen
Originally posted by: xgsound
It's a lot of people from out of town that ; 1. don't know where they are going 2. are under emotional distress 3. The services are only held this one time 4. don't worry , everybody gets this "privilege" once.
Jim

That doesn't give them any right to disobey the law. Hell, there could be a small gap in the procession, and an oncoming vehical may not have seen the herse.. and voom, a nice little accident for another funeral.

my point is, if this happens, there should be some kind of police escort. not just blindly following a herse.



In Pennsylvania, when I got my license in the 60's, this exception was in the drivers manual and an escort was not required. So it is the law here. Of course the procession was to have Funeral flags and headlights on at the time. I presume the laws have been updated to require 4-ways now. (That's the practice here now)

Understand that at no time is it reasonable to cause an accident because "you think you're right", and that goes for both sides.

Jim
 

Hammer

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usually they have a police escort and they stay together so its easy to tell. in your case, i don't know...
 

So

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Originally posted by: Yossarian
Originally posted by: n7
Originally posted by: malak
Originally posted by: Yossarian
wtf, why can funeral processions ignore red lights? what's the emergency, the guy's already dead.

Yeah no joke.


Have a little respect.

I would be interested in knowing how many accidents are caused by funeral processions going through red lights. when I have a green, I expect that no one is coming the other way (even though I check).

It's a way for the funeral homes to created more business! :evil:
 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: Black88GTA
Yesterday on my way back from lunch, I was stopped at a red light. I was in front. I see a hearse go by in front of me, didn't think anything of it. A minute or two later, the light changes, I wait a second and then start moving...and see someone hit his brakes hard (where they should have been stopping for the light). I figure it's just some douche trying to run the light (happens often in NY) and go in front of him.

I then look in my rearview mirror, and see the rest of the traffic stopped where they were and cars continuing across, blowing through the red :confused:. I remembered seeing the hearse a couple minutes back, and figured that it must be a funeral procession (there's a lot of cemeteries in the area).

Now here's the thing. None of the cars were using their flashers, none had flags on them, etc. They all just looked like normal traffic! Had I known it was a procession, I would certainly not have gone through it. Every other FP I have seen has had some sort of designation to signify to other traffic what was going on.

Was I wrong in going through? Or were they negligent in not using some sort of signal to other traffic that they were part of a funeral procession? Who would have been at fault if there was an accident?

Your thoughts?

If they did not have their blinkers on or anything else to signal tha ti's a funeral procession, then I say you're right. But it's still pretty embarassing :)
 

FoBoT

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depends on local/state laws

http://www.sos.state.il.us/publications/rr/rr_chap03.html
when a funeral procession enters an intersection with its lights on. The lead vehicle of the procession must obey stop signs and traffic signals. But when the lead vehicle has crossed an intersection, the following vehicles in the procession may cross cautiously without stopping. A driver who is not in the procession may overtake and pass the procession if he or she can without causing an accident or interfering with the procession. Drivers who are not part of a funeral procession-except for emergency vehicles - are not allowed to break into the line unless they are authorized to do so by a traffic officer.
http://www.waynesvillepd.com/City_Ordinances/Traffic/traffic.html
Section 71.02 Driving Through Funeral Processions

No vehicle shall be driven through a funeral procession except Fire Department vehicles, police patrols, and ambulances. (?66 Code, S 20-14) Penalty, see S 70.99

so you were probably wrong, pay more attention next time
 

ggavinmoss

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At least you weren't blasting "Another One Bites the Dust" with the windows rolled down.

-geoff
 

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Originally posted by: Black88GTA
Yesterday on my way back from lunch, I was stopped at a red light. I was in front. I see a hearse go by in front of me, didn't think anything of it. A minute or two later, the light changes, I wait a second and then start moving...and see someone hit his brakes hard (where they should have been stopping for the light). I figure it's just some douche trying to run the light (happens often in NY) and go in front of him.

I then look in my rearview mirror, and see the rest of the traffic stopped where they were and cars continuing across, blowing through the red :confused:. I remembered seeing the hearse a couple minutes back, and figured that it must be a funeral procession (there's a lot of cemeteries in the area).

Now here's the thing. None of the cars were using their flashers, none had flags on them, etc. They all just looked like normal traffic! Had I known it was a procession, I would certainly not have gone through it. Every other FP I have seen has had some sort of designation to signify to other traffic what was going on.

Was I wrong in going through? Or were they negligent in not using some sort of signal to other traffic that they were part of a funeral procession? Who would have been at fault if there was an accident?

Your thoughts?


well in Texas you woulda had a Trooper on a Motorcycle with his lights on sitting on each lane they wanted blocked for the funeral..
they do this for all funerals...
btw did the cars have their lights on.... that means they part of it...

thats why In Texas there are always at least 4 motor cops leading the funerals... they leapfrog intersection to intersection to make sure eveyrone stays together and that lights/stopsigns can be blown by the procession
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Funeral processions are not above the law. They are required to follow the rules of the road just like everyone else, unless there's some precident set for otherwise (e.g. New York City officially closing off streets and controlling traffic or something).
 

Jzero

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In some states, funeral processions ARE permitted to run red lights and stop signs.

Have a look at:
PA Driver's Manual page 47.
Funeral Procession
If your see a funeral procession on the road, yield to vehicles in the procession. Once the lead vehicle
has cleared an intersection, the rest of the procession has the right-of-way. Allow the procession to
pass and do not cut in and out of the procession, unless you are directed otherwise by a police officer
or an agent or employee of the funeral director during a funeral.
All vehicles in a funeral procession must have their headlights and emergency flashers turned on and
bear a flag or other insignia designating them as part of the procession.
Drivers in funeral processions may proceed through a red light or stop sign IF the lead vehicle starts
through the intersection while the light was green or, in the case of a stop sign, the lead vehicle first
came to a complete stop before proceeding through the intersection.

Note that there is no specification that the "lead vehicle" be a law enforcement vehicle.

That said, if it was unintentional and no one was hurt, just let it slide.
 

Ausm

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Originally posted by: Yossarian
wtf, why can funeral processions ignore red lights? what's the emergency, the guy's already dead.



I love your logic!

:thumbsup:

;)

Ausm
 

Ausm

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: Yossarian
Originally posted by: n7
Originally posted by: malak
Originally posted by: Yossarian
wtf, why can funeral processions ignore red lights? what's the emergency, the guy's already dead.

Yeah no joke.


Have a little respect.

I would be interested in knowing how many accidents are caused by funeral processions going through red lights. when I have a green, I expect that no one is coming the other way (even though I check).

It's a way for the funeral homes to created more business! :evil:



They make out like bandits...they charge between 5000-7000 to plant someone and they will always have a job ;)

Ausm