Was I a Jerk? Car related

[Lvis]

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
you probably werent a jerk, but why be so pushy and ask for four new quarts? thats kinda ridiculous. granted, 1.5 quarts too much wont help a whole lot, but putting in exactly what it calls for isnt the best idea either. the more you put in, the higher it stays in the lines, and the faster it gets to the block on a cold start. in a 4.5, 5 quarts would be what you really should pour in. when you exceed normal pressure, it breaks down the gaskets and o-rings in the block and will eventually cause a small leak. that takes a long time though...unless you put in a lot more than 1 extra quart.

I asked him to do that because he had already had it up on the lift twice, and it still wasn't right, I was tired of waiting.


I was a bit anal about it all because I've heard that having too much oil in the crankcase can cause it to turn into a whipped cream type substance.

I'm not a mechanic, but I wasn't about to take this guys word that it wouldn't hurt anything, "even if we did over fill it"

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
overfilling by 1/4 or 1/2 quart will not even fill up the lines that take the oil to and from the block. get a clue dude.

What about 1.5 Quarts extra? Did you even read the thread?

The manual calls for X oil. He was overcharged and the reservoir was overfilled. They could not accurately remove the extra 1.5qt so he asked them to do the only thing possible to ensure that he got the correct amount of oil - start over - drain it and put in the 4.5 qt.

It doesn't really matter if it won't do any damage. He expected a specific service and demanded that he receive that service.

did you even read my first response? i said 1.5 is way too much. thanks though.

Yes and I was wondering why you feel it was unreasonable for him to ask that they make good on their mistake.
When did you become so obnoxious? I've noticed that you're awfully quick to lash out at people recently. Like Millennium quick. You really should relax some.'

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: L vis

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
you probably werent a jerk, but why be so pushy and ask for four new quarts? thats kinda ridiculous. granted, 1.5 quarts too much wont help a whole lot, but putting in exactly what it calls for isnt the best idea either. the more you put in, the higher it stays in the lines, and the faster it gets to the block on a cold start. in a 4.5, 5 quarts would be what you really should pour in. when you exceed normal pressure, it breaks down the gaskets and o-rings in the block and will eventually cause a small leak. that takes a long time though...unless you put in a lot more than 1 extra quart.

I asked him to do that because he had already had it up on the lift twice, and it still wasn't right, I was tired of waiting.


I was a bit anal about it all because I've heard that having too much oil in the crankcase can cause it to turn into a whipped cream type substance.

I'm not a mechanic, but I wasn't about to take this guys word that it wouldn't hurt anything, "even if we did over fill it"

ok i understand that perfectly fine. thats reasonable...i guess i just didnt understand what you were saying at first. i was on the phone when i read the initial post, so pardon my ignorance. anyway, having too much...it doesnt turn into whipped cream or anything close to it, but it does cause leaks and if it stays in there too long it gets a little gooey. the problem is that it doesnt allow the right circulation in the filter and pump, which is why its dangerous to overfill by a lot.

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: Jzero

Yes and I was wondering why you feel it was unreasonable for him to ask that they make good on their mistake.
When did you become so obnoxious? I've noticed that you're awfully quick to lash out at people recently. Like Millennium quick. You really should relax some.'

sorry. dunno what to say besides ill try not to do it anymore. i dont mean it to be so obnoxious, but maybe it comes off that way.

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: Jzero

Yes and I was wondering why you feel it was unreasonable for him to ask that they make good on their mistake.
When did you become so obnoxious? I've noticed that you're awfully quick to lash out at people recently. Like Millennium quick. You really should relax some.'

sorry. dunno what to say besides ill try not to do it anymore. i dont mean it to be so obnoxious, but maybe it comes off that way.

I still love you
:beer:

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: Jzero

Yes and I was wondering why you feel it was unreasonable for him to ask that they make good on their mistake.
When did you become so obnoxious? I've noticed that you're awfully quick to lash out at people recently. Like Millennium quick. You really should relax some.'

sorry. dunno what to say besides ill try not to do it anymore. i dont mean it to be so obnoxious, but maybe it comes off that way.

I still love you
:beer:

:heart:

seriously though, now that you point it out, i did kinda jump the gun.

 

[BDawg]

What's up with this becoming sausage love fest?

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: BDawg
What's up with this becoming sausage love fest?

Yah this is a car thread!
Back to the manly stuff.

OIL!

 

[HamSupLo]

A man should be changing his own oil

 

[HamSupLo]

A man should be changing his own oil

 

[Lvis]

Originally posted by: jooksing
A man should be changing his own oil

But they only charge six bucks over the cost of the oil and filter.

And the steering wheel thing I was learning to deal with. :Q

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
overfilling by 1/4 or 1/2 quart will not even fill up the lines that take the oil to and from the block. get a clue dude.

What about 1.5 Quarts extra? Did you even read the thread?

The manual calls for X oil. He was overcharged and the reservoir was overfilled. They could not accurately remove the extra 1.5qt so he asked them to do the only thing possible to ensure that he got the correct amount of oil - start over - drain it and put in the 4.5 qt.

It doesn't really matter if it won't do any damage. He expected a specific service and demanded that he receive that service.

did you even read my first response? i said 1.5 is way too much. thanks though.

Yes and I was wondering why you feel it was unreasonable for him to ask that they make good on their mistake.
When did you become so obnoxious? I've noticed that you're awfully quick to lash out at people recently. Like Millennium quick. You really should relax some.'

LOL! Millennium quick? Fvck you too pal! :beer:

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
overfilling by 1/4 or 1/2 quart will not even fill up the lines that take the oil to and from the block. get a clue dude.

What about 1.5 Quarts extra? Did you even read the thread?

The manual calls for X oil. He was overcharged and the reservoir was overfilled. They could not accurately remove the extra 1.5qt so he asked them to do the only thing possible to ensure that he got the correct amount of oil - start over - drain it and put in the 4.5 qt.

It doesn't really matter if it won't do any damage. He expected a specific service and demanded that he receive that service.

did you even read my first response? i said 1.5 is way too much. thanks though.

Yes and I was wondering why you feel it was unreasonable for him to ask that they make good on their mistake.
When did you become so obnoxious? I've noticed that you're awfully quick to lash out at people recently. Like Millennium quick. You really should relax some.'

LOL! Millennium quick? Fvck you too pal! :beer:

Bwahaha! I was hoping you would catch that! :beer:

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: Mill

LOL! Millennium quick? Fvck you too pal! :beer:

you should be proud! the kiddies are following in your footsteps

 

[StageLeft]

Of course you were reasonable. You illustrated the reason I don't have anybody else do my oil changes. Of course it is bad to have too much in the crank case and overfilling by 1.5 quarts is pretty significant. That guy is a moron and/or doesn't give a sh*t about your vehicle or you. If you don't care either, then by all means continue to go back, but if I were you I'd go elsewhere.

 

[Ausm]

I would have been pissed.


Sysadmin

 

[DurocShark]

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
you probably werent a jerk, but why be so pushy and ask for four new quarts? thats kinda ridiculous. granted, 1.5 quarts too much wont help a whole lot, but putting in exactly what it calls for isnt the best idea either. the more you put in, the higher it stays in the lines, and the faster it gets to the block on a cold start. in a 4.5, 5 quarts would be what you really should pour in. when you exceed normal pressure, it breaks down the gaskets and o-rings in the block and will eventually cause a small leak. that takes a long time though...unless you put in a lot more than 1 extra quart.

edit: chill if you have a problem with this...not gonna edit it, but read the rest of it before you flame

The risk of blowing a gasket is too high. If the level in the dipstick after setting for 30 min is over the "FULL" mark it's dangerous.

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: DurocShark

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
you probably werent a jerk, but why be so pushy and ask for four new quarts? thats kinda ridiculous. granted, 1.5 quarts too much wont help a whole lot, but putting in exactly what it calls for isnt the best idea either. the more you put in, the higher it stays in the lines, and the faster it gets to the block on a cold start. in a 4.5, 5 quarts would be what you really should pour in. when you exceed normal pressure, it breaks down the gaskets and o-rings in the block and will eventually cause a small leak. that takes a long time though...unless you put in a lot more than 1 extra quart.

edit: chill if you have a problem with this...not gonna edit it, but read the rest of it before you flame

The risk of blowing a gasket is too high. If the level in the dipstick after setting for 30 min is over the "FULL" mark it's dangerous.

"truer words have never been spoken."

AT Mod

very true again, i will say this...i never said 1.5 extra quarts is good. i usually overfill by 1/2 - 3/4 of a quart, but i also have a 5.2L engine. my dipstick reads normal either way. if i had a 1.8L mazda protege, i wouldnt put more than 1/4 in. depends on the car...

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: DurocShark

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
you probably werent a jerk, but why be so pushy and ask for four new quarts? thats kinda ridiculous. granted, 1.5 quarts too much wont help a whole lot, but putting in exactly what it calls for isnt the best idea either. the more you put in, the higher it stays in the lines, and the faster it gets to the block on a cold start. in a 4.5, 5 quarts would be what you really should pour in. when you exceed normal pressure, it breaks down the gaskets and o-rings in the block and will eventually cause a small leak. that takes a long time though...unless you put in a lot more than 1 extra quart.

edit: chill if you have a problem with this...not gonna edit it, but read the rest of it before you flame

The risk of blowing a gasket is too high. If the level in the dipstick after setting for 30 min is over the "FULL" mark it's dangerous.

"truer words have never been spoken."

AT Mod

very true again, i will say this...i never said 1.5 extra quarts is good. i usually overfill by 1/2 - 3/4 of a quart, but i also have a 5.2L engine. my dipstick reads normal either way. if i had a 1.8L mazda protege, i wouldnt put more than 1/4 in. depends on the car...

Actually, almost all words ever spoken have been truer. The danger of overfilling has nothing to do with blowing a gasket. The oil pan lies directly underneath the crankshaft and the crank barely misses the top of the oil level. By overfilling you raise the fluid level to the point where the crank partially sits in the oil. As the crank spins it whips the oil into a froth. The froth drops oil pressure and creates air bubbles in the oil system so that instead of getting oil the parts that need lubrication are getting air instead. That'll cause extra wear, overheating and even engine seizing in extreme cases.

L vis, you were completely right and they were the ones being jerks. They were outright swindling you or are too incompetent to know the dangers of overfilling oil. Either way, I'd never trust them again. Find a new place to take your car.

 

[cyclistca]

Originally posted by: Amused
You were 100% in the right.

 

[Vic]

Better to be half a quart low than half a quart over IMO.

 

[Mallow]

Did the manager get mad? Maybe he thought you were reasonable too?

 

[Lvis]

Originally posted by: Mallow
Did the manager get mad? Maybe he thought you were reasonable too?

Nope. It was quiting time. He was the guy trying to take the correct amount of oil out. He was more or less polite, but he was pretty pissed off.

 

[Kipper]

This is precisely why I change my own oil...