Was I a Jerk? Car related

[Lvis]

So my truck needs an oil change and I go to the auto parts with a garage place. I've been going there for years, and they've normally done pretty well by me.

Well except for the oil on the steering wheel, but I'm used to it. But I use mobil one, and they only charge six bucks over the cost of the oil and filter to change it.

I go in today, and the guy says come back in a hour, we can do it for you. I wander home depot for a bit.

The kid changes my oil, and they give me the bill and I go to pay for it.

It's larger than normal.

I notice they charged me for an extra quart (6) of oil. Mobil one, about five bucks.

I ask the manager, can you explain this to me? The truck takes 4 and a half. (Ranger 2.5 ltr.)


He says, "thats what it took, to fill it up" I said, " how can that be, it takes four and a half?

He says, " thats what it took to fill it up"

I asked if we could look at the dipstick together. So we do.

He checks it, and says its fine.

I said let me, please. It wasn't, it was wayyyyy over.

He says its no big deal. And insists that it takes six quarts to fill the thing.

I get out the owners manual. 4 and a half, same as it's always been.

He says thats what it took to fill it.

At this point I start to get mad.... But I didn't lose my temper.

I told him I wanted them to take some of it out. So it goes into the garage again. He has to put it on the lift, to drain some out. they don't have one of those pumps you can put down the dipstick tube.

He does this twice, and still it had too much in it.

I asked him to drain it all and put four fresh quarts in. He does. I drive home.

So was I reasonable about this?

Isn't it bad to have too much oil in the crankcase?

 

[DrPizza]

I believe it's bad - too much oil pressure? I'm not positive though. And, you weren't a jerk for insisting your car is done correctly.

 

[Mill]

Not a jerk at all.

 

[BDawg]

I don't think you were unreasonable at all. They screwed up, you called them on it, and they denied it.

 

[m2kewl]

next time, you'll get some sugar in your gas

 

[zimu]

nah, you're in the green. chill out and take a drive.

 

[Amused]

You were 100% in the right.

 

[Borracho]

I wouldn't leave your car at that place again. You would end up with pee/sugar/both in the gas tank or something.

 

[Amused]

BTW, find a new oil change place.

 

[mpitts]

Originally posted by: BDawg
I don't think you were unreasonable at all. They screwed up, you called them on it, and they denied it.

 

[Bulk Beef]

They fvcked up. You probably are a jerk, but it wasn't manifested in this exchange.

 

Originally posted by: sward666
They fvcked up. You probably are a jerk, but it wasn't manifested in this exchange.

lol



I sure as hell wouldnt go back there.

 

[Lvis]

Originally posted by: sward666
They fvcked up. You probably are a jerk, but it wasn't manifested in this exchange.

LOL

And yeah I will have to find a new place to get it changed. The greasy steering wheel thing is getting old anyway.

 

[AIWGuru]

Thumbs up.
You should vandalize their garage tonight.

 

[MrDudeMan]

you probably werent a jerk, but why be so pushy and ask for four new quarts? thats kinda ridiculous. granted, 1.5 quarts too much wont help a whole lot, but putting in exactly what it calls for isnt the best idea either. the more you put in, the higher it stays in the lines, and the faster it gets to the block on a cold start. in a 4.5, 5 quarts would be what you really should pour in. when you exceed normal pressure, it breaks down the gaskets and o-rings in the block and will eventually cause a small leak. that takes a long time though...unless you put in a lot more than 1 extra quart.

edit: chill if you have a problem with this...not gonna edit it, but read the rest of it before you flame

 

[AntaresVI]

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
you probably werent a jerk, but why be so pushy and ask for four new quarts? thats kinda ridiculous. granted, 1.5 quarts too much wont help a whole lot, but putting in exactly what it calls for isnt the best idea either. the more you put in, the higher it stays in the lines, and the faster it gets to the block on a cold start. in a 4.5, 5 quarts would be what you really should pour in. when you exceed normal pressure, it breaks down the gaskets and o-rings in the block and will eventually cause a small leak. that takes a long time though...unless you put in a lot more than 1 extra quart.

I think that a car company would know how much oil its product needs better than you. Also, why accept work done wrong? The OP did the right thing, and you sound like a tool.

 

[GtPrOjEcTX]

Originally posted by: BDawg
I don't think you were unreasonable at all. They screwed up, you called them on it, and they denied it.

correct.

 

[Shelly21]

Do it youself next time..... easy to do and you know you'll do it right.

 

[slycat]

I think that a car company would know how much oil its product needs better than you. Also, why accept work done wrong? The OP did the right thing, and you sound like a tool.

he sounds like one but you just confirmed to us all, u are a tool.

 

[AIWGuru]

Firebomb their garage!

 

[JulesMaximus]

Yes, it is bad to have too much oil in your vehicle. I had a shop overfill a Mustang I owned years ago and it forced the excess out the rear main seal. I had to have it replaced which costs about $500. Of course those asshats said they didn't overfill it and I should have checked it before I signed the paperwork and left the shop. Bastages...That still pisses me off.

The Mustang had an oil pan that curved up over the front cross member so it had a drain plug at the front and the rear of the pan. They probably only drained the front leaving about 2 qts of oil in the back of the pan. :disgust:

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: AntaresVI

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
you probably werent a jerk, but why be so pushy and ask for four new quarts? thats kinda ridiculous. granted, 1.5 quarts too much wont help a whole lot, but putting in exactly what it calls for isnt the best idea either. the more you put in, the higher it stays in the lines, and the faster it gets to the block on a cold start. in a 4.5, 5 quarts would be what you really should pour in. when you exceed normal pressure, it breaks down the gaskets and o-rings in the block and will eventually cause a small leak. that takes a long time though...unless you put in a lot more than 1 extra quart.

I think that a car company would know how much oil its product needs better than you. Also, why accept work done wrong? The OP did the right thing, and you sound like a tool.

actually, tool, you can put extra gas in your gas tank, extra windshield wiper fluid in the container, and extra antifreeze in your radiator. why? well, i guess i am a tool, thats why. really, its because the fluids stay at the bottom of their reservoirs (sp) until you turn over the engine, and the further it is away from the pump, the more damage in the long run. the pumps run dry on a cold start...but what do i know? i only worked in an auto shop. yep, i sure am a tool

cars are not designed to last forever. they wear away and grind over time, and putting more in delays the grind. it is only good until it raises the pressure, but thats why it has a guage. if the pressure is anything other than what it normally is, then you put in too much obviously. overfilling by 1/4 or 1/2 quart will not even fill up the lines that take the oil to and from the block. get a clue dude.

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Yes, it is bad to have too much oil in your vehicle. I had a shop overfill a Mustang I owned years ago and it forced the excess out the rear main seal. I had to have it replaced which costs about $500. Of course those asshats said they didn't overfill it and I should have checked it before I signed the paperwork and left the shop. Bastages...That still pisses me off.

The Mustang had an oil pan that curved up over the front cross member so it had a drain plug at the front and the rear of the pan. They probably only drained the front leaving about 2 qts of oil in the back of the pan. :disgust:

ouch a girl i knew drove away from the oil place with no oil in the engine. no oil, as in 0, nada, nilch. but, she didnt get reimbersed for it since she added half a quart when she got home. she thought it was low, so she added a little, but it obviously wasnt enough still...

poor girl...and that sucks for you as well.

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
overfilling by 1/4 or 1/2 quart will not even fill up the lines that take the oil to and from the block. get a clue dude.

What about 1.5 Quarts extra? Did you even read the thread?

The manual calls for X oil. He was overcharged and the reservoir was overfilled. They could not accurately remove the extra 1.5qt so he asked them to do the only thing possible to ensure that he got the correct amount of oil - start over - drain it and put in the 4.5 qt.

It doesn't really matter if it won't do any damage. He expected a specific service and demanded that he receive that service.

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
overfilling by 1/4 or 1/2 quart will not even fill up the lines that take the oil to and from the block. get a clue dude.

What about 1.5 Quarts extra? Did you even read the thread?

The manual calls for X oil. He was overcharged and the reservoir was overfilled. They could not accurately remove the extra 1.5qt so he asked them to do the only thing possible to ensure that he got the correct amount of oil - start over - drain it and put in the 4.5 qt.

It doesn't really matter if it won't do any damage. He expected a specific service and demanded that he receive that service.

did you even read my first response? i said 1.5 is way too much. thanks though. edit: oh, and i understand about the whole service thing, so chill.