Was George Washinton a "damn poor leader"?

[Anarchist420]

I think he was, both as President and Commander in Chief of the Continental Army.

Why don't more people think that what he did to Charles Lee makes him an ass and in fact makes his "own dumb self" the traitor rather than Charles Lee?

To me, it seems like he wanted control over the people rather than quick victory.

About the poll: By "the Revolutionary cause", I mean liberty, not Marxism.

 

[amish]

Why don't more people think that what he did to Charles Lee

ummm, what are you talking about? Washington made Lee Attorney General. i don't see how that is a bad thing.

edit: so it might be nice to see some documentation as to what you are talking about. such as battle reports and handling of national decisions.

 

[Anarchist420]

ummm, what are you talking about? Washington made Lee Attorney General. i don't see how that is a bad thing.

No, Charles Lee died in 1782.

 

[Farang]

While I think you can fault Washington for his military tactics, his leadership and character are impeccable. I'm really not sure how you can doubt this considering he had every opportunity to be dictator of the United States.

 

[amish]

No, Charles Lee died in 1782.

d'oh, two different Charles Lees from the same period.

 

[amish]

from a crappy, uncited, wiki article:

When he arrived in New York to join General Washington and the main part of the Continental Army, Washington chose to show his appreciation of General Lee (who was a very popular general officer among not only the army, but Congress) by changing the name of Fort Constitution, which was located on the New Jersey side of the Hudson opposite Fort Washington, to Fort Lee.

Toward the end of 1776, Lee's animosity for Washington began to show. During the retreat from Forts Washington and Lee, he dawdled with his army, and intensified a letter campaign to convince various Congress members that he should replace Washington as Commander-in-Chief. Around this time, Washington was accidentally given and opened a letter from Lee to a Colonel Reed, in which Lee condemned Washington's leadership and abilities, and blamed Washington entirely for the dire straits of the Army. Though he was the victim of the letter, Washington was not angry. He was suspicious and disappointed at both Lee and himself, Washington being inclined to take much responsibility and little credit for himself.[citation needed] He sent the letters to Reed and wrote an accompanying letter apologizing for the mistake.

sounds like Lee was the ass.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Oh my god . how many here believe franklin flew a kite in thunderstorm . He didn't his son did .
Franklin owned slaves befor he seen the light of what liberty mean .

Franklin was owner of First tabloid
Franklin payed for many whores .
In the house franklin lived in London . Not long ago 10 bodies were found in that basement .
This is just franklin I won't get into Washington . But I really should.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Based on all this information, the only way to correct history is for Ron Paul to become President.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Based on all this information, the only way to correct history is for Ron Paul to become President.

Your entire lifetime wouldn't be enough to correct history.

 

[First]

Based on all this information, the only way to correct history is for Ron Paul to become President.

bahaha.

 

[Texashiker]

I think he was, both as President and Commander in Chief of the Continental Army.

My opinion the the matter,

 

[amish]

Franklin was owner of First tabloid.

not a crime...

Franklin payed for many whores .

many people did/do. world's oldest profession and all...
just a character flaw.

In the house franklin lived in London . Not long ago 10 bodies were found in that basement . .

link? also were the bodies from when Franklin lived there?

This is just franklin I won't get into Washington . But I really should.

i think you should. i'm bored and curious.

 

[etrigan420]

Based on all this information, the only way to correct history is for Ron Paul to become President.

...and he would if it wasn't for the vast media conspiracy.

HAVEN'T YOU SEEN THE YOUTUBES????!!!1

 

[SirStev0]

The biggest credit I give Washington was already stated in this thread. He had every opportunity afforded to him to become the first great Dictator and he didn't. Honestly people were offering him the position on a golden platter.

For all his downfalls, this alone is incredibly respectable.

 

[feralkid]

 

[Born2bwire]

I like how he uses "quotes." It's almost like he understands citations but at the same time doesn't. But I must congratulate the OP on bringing Nemesis1 back out of the woodwork.