Was a 486 a P1?

[freegeeks]

Originally posted by: crumpet19
I had a 486 Dx4-100 with 64 megs of ram, and a 1meg video card that completely kicked the hell out of my friends pentium 100. In fact, I still have that machine... maybe I should fire it up and put it on the lan.... but what for?

linux router

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: freegeeks

well I'm probably a bit older because my very first PC was a screaming fast Commodore 386-SX 16mhz, 1MB RAM, 256kb POS ISA Trident card and a 20gb harddisk, preloaded with DOS 4.
I paid $2000 for it

Heh, I have an old magazine somewhere that was talking about the up-coming 286. The featured system had 1MB of memory and like a 20MB hard drive. It was $11,000. My first computer (in 1986) was a Commodore 64 with the damned 1351 drive. I think it was 900KHz or 1MHz, 64KB of memory and dual 64KB floppies.

I think my dad paid $1000.

 

[moonshinemadness]

My dad says thanks v much guys

 

[mss242]

Originally posted by: freegeeks

Originally posted by: boyRacer

Originally posted by: freegeeks

Originally posted by: all168

Originally posted by: bradruth I don't think so. If I recall, the first Pentium was 90mhz.

The first pentium was running at 75mhz

no I'm sure the first one was a 60 mhz model because I had one

me too... my first computAr

well I'm probably a bit older because my very first PC was a screaming fast Commodore 386-SX 16mhz, 1MB RAM, 256kb POS ISA Trident card and a 20gb harddisk, preloaded with DOS 4. I paid $2000 for it I was playing all the time on a friends 4mhz 8088 and I wanted something faster then him for bragging rights

LOL - i think you mean 20mb hard disk.

 

[freegeeks]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: freegeeks

well I'm probably a bit older because my very first PC was a screaming fast Commodore 386-SX 16mhz, 1MB RAM, 256kb POS ISA Trident card and a 20gb harddisk, preloaded with DOS 4.
I paid $2000 for it

Heh, I have an old magazine somewhere that was talking about the up-coming 286. The featured system had 1MB of memory and like a 20MB hard drive. It was $11,000. My first computer (in 1986) was a Commodore 64 with the damned 1351 drive. I think it was 900KHz or 1MHz, 64KB of memory and dual 64KB floppies.

I think my dad paid $1000.

ahhh the memories -- is that the commodore with the cassette player (not the floppy disk) - because I had one of those -If you wanted to play a game you had to fastforward and then you could play the stupid game. if you count a commodore 64 as a computer then this was also my first computer.

 

[freegeeks]

Originally posted by: mss242

Originally posted by: freegeeks

Originally posted by: boyRacer

Originally posted by: freegeeks

Originally posted by: all168

Originally posted by: bradruth I don't think so. If I recall, the first Pentium was 90mhz.

The first pentium was running at 75mhz

no I'm sure the first one was a 60 mhz model because I had one

me too... my first computAr

well I'm probably a bit older because my very first PC was a screaming fast Commodore 386-SX 16mhz, 1MB RAM, 256kb POS ISA Trident card and a <STRONG>20gb</STRONG> harddisk, preloaded with DOS 4. I paid $2000 for it I was playing all the time on a friends 4mhz 8088 and I wanted something faster then him for bragging rights

LOL - i think you mean 20mb hard disk.

LOL

yeah you are right -- it's mb

 

[ElFenix]

the first 486 any of us had would hang playing rebel assualt (the only game that really stressed it at the time). we said it was because it was so fast the game couldn't keep up

 

[desy]

The P1 was also the fist chip to do 2 operations per clock cycle the 486 only did one instruction per clock cycle.
Whic is why a 486133 AMD chip performed about the same as a 66 P1 chip

 

[KidTao]

Originally posted by: moonshinemadness
My dads is writing a presentation for a peice of work and he needs to know whether a 486 was classed as a Pentium 1, i was somewhat embasrrassed when i realised i didnt know the answer i suspect it was but i dont know for sure. Anyone know?

Cute!

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: freegeeks

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: all168

You are right, start at 60. If I remember it correctly, is 60 & 66 has different size than 75?

60 and 66 were socket 4s. I had one in my POS Packard Bell Legend 301CD.

the funny part was that a friend of mine had one of those 486 - 100mhz and it was faster then my 60mhz pentium

its, true, the first p1's sucked. just like how the first p4's sucked. the dx4 100 and higher 486's owned them mostly for a while. course, my 486 couldn't play mp3s at more then 1/4 quality when mp3 first appeared. ack tthat was one great incentive to upgrade.

 

[Shawn]

Nope, the Pentium was the 586.

 

[Jugernot]

Originally posted by: all168

Originally posted by: bradruth
I don't think so. If I recall, the first Pentium was 90mhz.

The first pentium was running at 75mhz

You just pull that number out of your ass? WRONG, they started at 60MHz.

Bunch of n00bs in here!

 

[PlatinumGold]

Pentium was used instead of 586 so that intel could trademark the name.

pentium 1 = the first 586 processor therefore 486 not equal to pentium 1.

 

[FrustratedUser]

No not at all. The first Pentium was 60MHz btw. Remember the floating point bug?

 

[Xionide]

no. If memory recalls a 486 didnt have the processing power / technology to even play an mp3. But I could be wrong.

-Xionide

 

[Jugernot]

Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
No not at all. The first Pentium was 60MHz btw. Remember the floating point bug?

Yep!

I remember hearing about it on the news, it only effected the very first chips of 60MHz and 66MHz, if I remember correctly. Maybe it was just 60MHz.... I was only 12.

 

[Luagsch]

pentium 1 was kind of 586. pentium pro was kind of 686.
pentium 1 started at 60 and 90 mhz. had the bugs which started a tremendous recall. next ones where pentium 66/100 (with 60 and 90 still there, but now without bug) and pentium then 120 and 133 (had 60 mhz fsb and 66 mhz fsb) then 150/166 then 180/200. then came the mmx versions at 166/200 and 233.

EDIT forgot pentium 75. don't remember when it exactly was thron into market

 

[Jugernot]

Originally posted by: Xionide
no. If memory recalls a 486 didnt have the processing power / technology to even play an mp3. But I could be wrong.

-Xionide

Yes, they can play MP3s. I had a friend who had a 386 at 20MHz and it played MP3s through linux. You couldn't do anything else on the computer, but they played.

 

[Scarpozzi]

Originally posted by: charlie21

Originally posted by: bradruth
I don't think so. If I recall, the first Pentium was 90mhz.

Started at 60, then 66, 75, 90, 100...

Actually, the 90 came out before the 75... The 133, 166, and 200s were all the same chip if I remember correctly, but badged differently.

The 60s were terrible for heat problems as were the 66mhz processors.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Luagsch
pentium 1 was kind of 586. pentium pro was kind of 686.
pentium 1 started at 60 and 90 mhz. had the bugs which started a tremendous recall. next ones where pentium 66/100 (with 60 and 90 still there, but now without bug) and pentium then 120 and 133 (had 60 mhz fsb and 66 mhz fsb) then 150/166 then 180/200. then came the mmx versions at 166/200 and 233.

EDIT forgot pentium 75. don't remember when it exactly was thron into market

after the P133.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Scarpozzi

Originally posted by: charlie21

Originally posted by: bradruth
I don't think so. If I recall, the first Pentium was 90mhz.

Started at 60, then 66, 75, 90, 100...

Actually, the 90 came out before the 75... The 133, 166, and 200s were all the same chip if I remember correctly, but badged differently.

The 60s were terrible for heat problems as were the 66mhz processors.

it's simple, look at fsb.

60, 90, 100, 150 were all 60 mhz chips.

66, 133, 200 were all 66 mhz chips.

the only one that was unique was the 75, it was 50 mhz based.

 

[Luagsch]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Scarpozzi

Originally posted by: charlie21

Originally posted by: bradruth
I don't think so. If I recall, the first Pentium was 90mhz.

Started at 60, then 66, 75, 90, 100...

Actually, the 90 came out before the 75... The 133, 166, and 200s were all the same chip if I remember correctly, but badged differently.

The 60s were terrible for heat problems as were the 66mhz processors.

it's simple, look at fsb.

60, 90, 100, 150 were all 60 mhz chips.

66, 133, 200 were all 66 mhz chips.

the only one that was unique was the 75, it was 50 mhz based.

100 was 66 fsb
EDIT also 166 and 233 were 66fsb

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Luagsch

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Scarpozzi

Originally posted by: charlie21

Originally posted by: bradruth
I don't think so. If I recall, the first Pentium was 90mhz.

Started at 60, then 66, 75, 90, 100...

Actually, the 90 came out before the 75... The 133, 166, and 200s were all the same chip if I remember correctly, but badged differently.

The 60s were terrible for heat problems as were the 66mhz processors.

it's simple, look at fsb.

60, 90, 100, 150 were all 60 mhz chips.

66, 133, 200 were all 66 mhz chips.

the only one that was unique was the 75, it was 50 mhz based.

100 was 66 fsb

you are right.

but you got my point.

it was just the 75 that was unique.

 

[kt]

Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
No not at all. The first Pentium was 60MHz btw. Remember the floating point bug?

I remember it well. I had to send mine in for a replacement because I was actually having problem.

 

[Luagsch]

hehe, i remember the good old times. i was so frustraded when i realised i couldn't overclock my 133 to 150 cause the mobo didn't support 75 mhz. everybody was oc to 75 and 83 fsb so my first oc was on my t6000 and my voodoo1