Was a 486 a P1?

moonshinemadness

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My dads is writing a presentation for a peice of work and he needs to know whether a 486 was classed as a Pentium 1, i was somewhat embasrrassed when i realised i didnt know the answer i suspect it was but i dont know for sure. Anyone know?
 

Spoooon

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486 was a whole other processor.

I think those dx4 100's were approximately as fast as a P75.
 

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The pentium was going to be a 586, but Intel couldn't copyright 586 or 80586, so the came up with the name Pentium...


It started it the 8086 and 8088, 80186 was used in a few servers, then 80286, 386, 486 and then they started up using Pentium in the name.
 

ElFenix

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no, 486 was a 486, pentium was the brand name for the 586 (because you can't trademark a number) and the first ones ran at 60 and 66 mhz
 

all168

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Originally posted by: charlie21
Originally posted by: bradruth
I don't think so. If I recall, the first Pentium was 90mhz.
Started at 60, then 66, 75, 90, 100...


You are right, start at 60. If I remember it correctly, is 60 & 66 has different size than 75?
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: all168

You are right, start at 60. If I remember it correctly, is 60 & 66 has different size than 75?

60 and 66 were socket 4s. I had one in my POS Packard Bell Legend 301CD.
 

freegeeks

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: all168

You are right, start at 60. If I remember it correctly, is 60 & 66 has different size than 75?

60 and 66 were socket 4s. I had one in my POS Packard Bell Legend 301CD.

the funny part was that a friend of mine had one of those 486 - 100mhz and it was faster then my 60mhz pentium

 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: freegeeks

the funny part was that a friend of mine had one of those 486 - 100mhz and it was faster then my 60mhz pentium

:D

I got the 60MHz 301 at the Keesler AFB AAFES station (It's like military Walmart) and the next day the 75 MHz came out for $20 less. I was mad... :p

Still, the 301 was quite a jump from my 4.77MHz 8088 with no hard drive.
 

glugglug

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Actually I'm fairly certain the first Pentium was 66MHz, then there was 60MHz released later for those that didn't work so well at 66.

75MHz is actually SLOWER than 60 because of the 50MHz memory/L2 cache and 25MHz PCI/VESA bus.

Pentium is the first x86 with 64-bit bus BTW.

60 and 66 = Socket 5 (supports 1x multiplier only, 5V, also known as the Pentium Oven even though it uses less power than any of today's CPUs).

75, 90, 100, 120, 133, etc. = Socket 7, started at 3.3V I think, jumper selectable multiplier from 1.5x to 3x originally, range later changed with Pentium MMX/K6 to 2x to 3.5x and 2x to 5.5x with K6-2/3.
 

freegeeks

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Originally posted by: boyRacer
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: all168
Originally posted by: bradruth
I don't think so. If I recall, the first Pentium was 90mhz.

The first pentium was running at 75mhz


no I'm sure the first one was a 60 mhz model because I had one

me too... my first computAr :D

well I'm probably a bit older because my very first PC was a screaming fast Commodore 386-SX 16mhz, 1MB RAM, 256kb POS ISA Trident card and a 20gb harddisk, preloaded with DOS 4.
I paid $2000 for it :D

I was playing all the time on a friends 4mhz 8088 and I wanted something faster then him for bragging rights

:cool:
 

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I had a 486 Dx4-100 with 64 megs of ram, and a 1meg video card that completely kicked the hell out of my friends pentium 100. In fact, I still have that machine... maybe I should fire it up and put it on the lan.... but what for?
 

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intel also killed off the 486 early to stop competitors (there were like 4 different companies making 486s)