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Warren hurts Rubio's feels

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The Hill: Rubio hits Warren's 'crude' and 'vulgar' response to opposition to same-sex marriage | TheHill.
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Rubio criticizes Warren response on same-sex marriage opposition as condescending

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) on Saturday criticized Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s (D-Mass.) response to a town hall question about same-sex marriage earlier this week, saying it was condescending and …
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Well, it appears Warren reflecting traditional values with her words is highly offensive to man like Rubio.

On Warren's response, Rubio tweeted Saturday, "Vividly captures the condescension of elites & their incessant ridicule of Americans with traditional values. It elicits glee among celebrities & blue check brigade."

"But for the millions sick of being disrespected it elicits support for fighting back, even in a crude or vulgar way," Rubio continued.
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The irony is his response goes unnoticed it seems. People who dont conform to "traditional values" have been disrespected, attacked, ridiculed for so long it's hard to see the world behaving differently. Who will we chastise, condescend, shun, shame, physically and verbally attack when we treat Americans as equal?
 
Although I don't support non traditional lifestyles I believe that they should have fair and ethical treatment. Our preamble says we the people indicating inclusiveness so they should be treated respectfully and having had gay friends I believe that I understand their plight. R's should read their bibles where it says to do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
 
Pointing out hypocrisy hurts their feels, why won't anyone think of the poor victimized christians? Conservative feels are more important than actual rights for others, you tell'em shorty!

lol

If republican feels are bruised now, these pissheads ain't seen nothing yet. The crowd more outraged over AOC's haircut than they are over blatant and obvious unconstitutional, practically treasonous, behavior thinks the Dems are being mean? Oh do tell.

Republicans, in 2019, think they still have something to stand on regarding values and morals? That in of itself is pretty damn hilarious.
 
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Puffnstuff said:
Although I don't support non traditional lifestyles I believe that they should have fair and ethical treatment. Our preamble says we the people indicating inclusiveness so they should be treated respectfully and having had gay friends I believe that I understand their plight. R's should read their bibles where it says to do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
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Oh really? You thought they were going to stop at gay marriage, your bathroom policies, mandatory acceptance of gender fluidity, etc., etc.

Better get ready because they're coming for your Churches tax exemption next Bob Jones University style,

Bob Jones University v. United States, 461 U.S. 574 (1983), was a decision by the United States Supreme Court holding that the religion clauses of the First Amendment did not prohibit the Internal Revenue Service from revoking the tax exempt status of a religious university whose practices are contrary to a compelling government public policy, such as eradicating racial discrimination.
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O’Rourke says churches against gay marriage should lose tax benefits, draws backlash

Critics called the presidential candidate's comments "un-American," "unconstitutional," "bigoted nonsense."
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O'Rourke says churches against gay marriage should lose tax benefits, draws backlash



“Yes,” O’Rourke replied. “There can be no reward, no benefit, no tax break for anyone, or any institution, any organization in America, that denies the full human rights and the full civil rights of every single one of us. And so as president, we are going to make that a priority, and we are going to stop those who are infringing upon the human rights of our fellow Americans.”
Former Rep. Beto O’Rourke said Thursday that churches and other religious institutions that oppose same-sex marriage should lose their tax-exempt status, taking the Democratic presidential debate into uncharted — and controversial — territory.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Jones_University_v._United_States
The Texas Democrat was asked about the concept by CNN anchor Don Lemon at a 2020 candidates' forum on LGBTQ issues co-hosted by the network and Human Rights Campaign Foundation.

“Do you think religious institutions like colleges, churches, charities should they lose their tax-exempt status if they oppose same-sex marriage?” Lemon asked.

O'Rourke: 'There can be no tax break' for orgs against same-sex marriage
Oct. 11, 201900:35

“Yes,” O’Rourke replied. “There can be no reward, no benefit, no tax break for anyone, or any institution, any organization in America, that denies the full human rights and the full civil rights of every single one of us. And so as president, we are going to make that a priority, and we are going to stop those who are infringing upon the human rights of our fellow Americans.”
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And before anyone thinks that won't happen, just remember gay marriage and transgender rights were thought an impossibility not to long ago, and those that brought it up were labeled radicals and extremists against traditional family values.

Question is how many are going to kowtow NBA style when their tax exemptions are in peril.
 
1prophet said:
Oh really? You thought they were going to stop at gay marriage, your bathroom policies, mandatory acceptance of gender fluidity, etc., etc.

Better get ready because they're coming for your Churches tax exemption next Bob Jones University style,



www.nbcnews.com

O’Rourke says churches against gay marriage should lose tax benefits, draws backlash

Critics called the presidential candidate's comments "un-American," "unconstitutional," "bigoted nonsense."
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
O'Rourke says churches against gay marriage should lose tax benefits, draws backlash



“Yes,” O’Rourke replied. “There can be no reward, no benefit, no tax break for anyone, or any institution, any organization in America, that denies the full human rights and the full civil rights of every single one of us. And so as president, we are going to make that a priority, and we are going to stop those who are infringing upon the human rights of our fellow Americans.”


And before anyone thinks that won't happen, just remember gay marriage and transgender rights were thought an impossibility not to long ago, and those that brought it up were labeled radicals and extremists against traditional family values.

Question is how many are going to kowtow NBA style when their tax exemptions are in peril.
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O'Rourke has fallen way out of favor with me, but Bob Jones isn't a church. It's a laundromat for political dark money. Yaknow, a tax shelter for those political elites you're always complaining about. Or selectively pretend don't exist, as the case may be.
 
Huh...
ch33zw1z said:
The Hill: Rubio hits Warren's 'crude' and 'vulgar' response to opposition to same-sex marriage | TheHill.
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It actually says:
The Hill: Rubio criticizes Warren response on same-sex marriage opposition as condescending
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Did they correct their headline after you posted? /nitpick.

So, about the topic. Am I supposed to approve of Warren's comment? Seems like a stunt to rile up the base. Red meat, dog whistle to signal that she can fight. She'll probably need some zest for the general. Yeah, it'll piss people off too. Catch 22. Does it gain more voters than it loses? Does it even matter?

I'd rather we appeal to voters on a positive message, but we also need some teeth in this fight. So... *shrug. Warren insulted an anonymous person, Trump insults everyone all the time. When it comes down to it, Rubio is playing a card that he and other Republicans already burned. There is no normalcy or manners or respect in modern American politics. I actually only care if it helps or hurts her in the general and I think the personal attacks against her will be far worse than anything presented here.

Rubio is barking up the wrong tree with his virtue signaling. Cheeto's boot lickers can try claiming indignation, we'll just rub their faces in it. The challenge, I think, will be getting past this noise and speaking positively for the American people. If anything, she did a good job triggering the GOP on command.
 
@Jaskalas - dunno if they changed their headline, but maybe. I just copied it from the news feed.

Warren simply put what many Americans think regarding concerns for "traditional values", which seems to be that the concerns aren't genuine.

Edit: lol, yea, looks like they changed the headline, guess it was too "social media" for them.
 
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Jaskalas said:
Rubio is barking up the wrong tree with his virtue signaling. Cheeto's boot lickers can try claiming indignation, we'll just rub their faces in it. The challenge, I think, will be getting past this noise and speaking positively for the American people. If anything, she did a good job triggering the GOP on command.
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Rubio has to take harsh stances against the Dems because he's gone totally limp dicked in the face of Trump and a host of policies and actions that would have had him scaling the WH fence in Obama's term to burn the place to the ground. He makes Romney look like Rambo.

Maybe he can post some more vaguely disapproving bible versus or something. Or at the very least quit bothering us.
 
Jaskalas said:
Huh...

It actually says:


Did they correct their headline after you posted? /nitpick.

So, about the topic. Am I supposed to approve of Warren's comment? Seems like a stunt to rile up the base. Red meat, dog whistle to signal that she can fight. She'll probably need some zest for the general. Yeah, it'll piss people off too. Catch 22. Does it gain more voters than it loses? Does it even matter?

I'd rather we appeal to voters on a positive message, but we also need some teeth in this fight. So... *shrug. Warren insulted an anonymous person, Trump insults everyone all the time. When it comes down to it, Rubio is playing a card that he and other Republicans already burned. There is no normalcy or manners or respect in modern American politics. I actually only care if it helps or hurts her in the general and I think the personal attacks against her will be far worse than anything presented here.

Rubio is barking up the wrong tree with his virtue signaling. Cheeto's boot lickers can try claiming indignation, we'll just rub their faces in it. The challenge, I think, will be getting past this noise and speaking positively for the American people. If anything, she did a good job triggering the GOP on command.
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Telling someone to live and let live is now an insult? Because that was the gist of her comment and its about as positive of a comment as you can get for such a question.
 
1prophet said:
Oh really? You thought they were going to stop at gay marriage, your bathroom policies, mandatory acceptance of gender fluidity, etc., etc.

Better get ready because they're coming for your Churches tax exemption next Bob Jones University style,



www.nbcnews.com

O’Rourke says churches against gay marriage should lose tax benefits, draws backlash

Critics called the presidential candidate's comments "un-American," "unconstitutional," "bigoted nonsense."
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
O'Rourke says churches against gay marriage should lose tax benefits, draws backlash



“Yes,” O’Rourke replied. “There can be no reward, no benefit, no tax break for anyone, or any institution, any organization in America, that denies the full human rights and the full civil rights of every single one of us. And so as president, we are going to make that a priority, and we are going to stop those who are infringing upon the human rights of our fellow Americans.”


And before anyone thinks that won't happen, just remember gay marriage and transgender rights were thought an impossibility not to long ago, and those that brought it up were labeled radicals and extremists against traditional family values.

Question is how many are going to kowtow NBA style when their tax exemptions are in peril.
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Damn straight, Beto is 100% right here. The separation of church and state is a must, regardless of what christian culture warriors and mega church frauds would like everyone to believe.

Why is it holy rollers expect this right to have their neighbors tax dollars fund the religious schools they inflict on their children? This 'pay for me because I'm pious' bullshit has to stop. You want to have your political say as an org, you want your kids to go to a 'special' school? Fine, just enough with forcing others to pay for it. Pretend we're talking about union dues, and let's move onto the next topic that shouldn't be an issue but is thanks to longstanding dogma.
 
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I don't see how they -- or Rubio -- can argue with it, other than with the characterization that it's "elite condescension". But such a response misses the point.

We're a secular nation-state, allowing a multitude of diverse religions to practice their faith unhindered. But just let someone get "married" contrary to the restrictions of your one and only book, and they throw a pissy-fit. Their idea of religious freedom is to impose their traditionalism on everyone else.

The condescension is really simply a very straightforward argument which explains the enlightened point of view. It just says "fine! practice your religion, with your personal God, and don't do the things you think are wrong. Leave everyone else alone."

It's a case of at least one group talking past the other, parallel their attempted argument that we're fundamentally a "Christian" nation, so everyone else had better step into line with it. It's the same with their aversion to "multi-culturalism" and diversity.
 
1prophet said:
Oh really? You thought they were going to stop at gay marriage, your bathroom policies, mandatory acceptance of gender fluidity, etc., etc.

Better get ready because they're coming for your Churches tax exemption next Bob Jones University style,



www.nbcnews.com

O’Rourke says churches against gay marriage should lose tax benefits, draws backlash

Critics called the presidential candidate's comments "un-American," "unconstitutional," "bigoted nonsense."
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
O'Rourke says churches against gay marriage should lose tax benefits, draws backlash



“Yes,” O’Rourke replied. “There can be no reward, no benefit, no tax break for anyone, or any institution, any organization in America, that denies the full human rights and the full civil rights of every single one of us. And so as president, we are going to make that a priority, and we are going to stop those who are infringing upon the human rights of our fellow Americans.”


And before anyone thinks that won't happen, just remember gay marriage and transgender rights were thought an impossibility not to long ago, and those that brought it up were labeled radicals and extremists against traditional family values.

Question is how many are going to kowtow NBA style when their tax exemptions are in peril.
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Why do we really have to associate gay/trans rights with churches? People are entitled to their own opinion.

As far as tax advantages - tax the fuck out of them. Tax everyone for everything. I don't say that as far as gay rights and dur hur standing up for gays... I say that because any business of any type should be taxed. It's that simple.

I don't care if you're Christian, Muslim, Mormon, Scientologist, Flying Spaghetti Monster, Chuck Norris, etc... Just because you believe in a fairy tale doesn't mean you should have a tax advantage. It's fucking silly.
 
ivwshane said:
Telling someone to live and let live is now an insult? Because that was the gist of her comment and its about as positive of a comment as you can get for such a question.
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It may have been the gist, but what she actually did was imply that a man who holds an anti-gay marriage view probably can't find a woman to marry him. It was kind of a petty, childish insult IMO. Not nearly as petty or childish as any of a vast number of things the current office-holder has said, of course.
 
1prophet said:
Oh really? You thought they were going to stop at gay marriage, your bathroom policies, mandatory acceptance of gender fluidity, etc., etc.

Better get ready because they're coming for your Churches tax exemption next Bob Jones University style,

www.nbcnews.com

O’Rourke says churches against gay marriage should lose tax benefits, draws backlash

Critics called the presidential candidate's comments "un-American," "unconstitutional," "bigoted nonsense."
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
O'Rourke says churches against gay marriage should lose tax benefits, draws backlash



“Yes,” O’Rourke replied. “There can be no reward, no benefit, no tax break for anyone, or any institution, any organization in America, that denies the full human rights and the full civil rights of every single one of us. And so as president, we are going to make that a priority, and we are going to stop those who are infringing upon the human rights of our fellow Americans.”


And before anyone thinks that won't happen, just remember gay marriage and transgender rights were thought an impossibility not to long ago, and those that brought it up were labeled radicals and extremists against traditional family values.

Question is how many are going to kowtow NBA style when their tax exemptions are in peril.
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I’ve never understood why churches should be tax exempt in the first place.

For example the Trinity Church is one of the largest and wealthiest landowners in NYC and they pay no tax on their vast holdings and tens of millions in yearly profits. Why?

Beto’s reasoning is dumb here and we shouldn’t make tax exemption contingent on holding any view. That’s wrong. We should just eliminate it entirely.
 
s0me0nesmind1 said:
Why do we really have to associate gay/trans rights with churches? People are entitled to their own opinion.

As far as tax advantages - tax the fuck out of them. Tax everyone for everything. I don't say that as far as gay rights and dur hur standing up for gays... I say that because any business of any type should be taxed. It's that simple.

I don't care if you're Christian, Muslim, Mormon, Scientologist, Flying Spaghetti Monster, Chuck Norris, etc... Just because you believe in a fairy tale doesn't mean you should have a tax advantage. It's fucking silly.
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I like the idea of churches not being given special treatment. Practically speaking I'm not sure how it would work though. I don't have an issue with the ones that are effectively community run social/charity groups being tax exempt. Where do you draw the line between that and these mega churches founded by a con man though?
 
Stryke1983 said:
I like the idea of churches not being given special treatment. Practically speaking I'm not sure how it would work though. I don't have an issue with the ones that are effectively community run social/charity groups being tax exempt. Where do you draw the line between that and these mega churches founded by a con man though?
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I'd say as soon as the government can verify the church is engaging in political activity the exemption is gone. And it's strictly enforced. This wouldn't affect the ones only running soup kitchens or food banks.
 
The poor, disrespected religious conservatives are no longer being given free reign to disrespect others due to their sexual orientation. Life's so sad.
 
ivwshane said:
Telling someone to live and let live is now an insult? Because that was the gist of her comment and its about as positive of a comment as you can get for such a question.
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"And just marry one woman.... assuming you can find one"

That zinger hits them in the feels, and I hope you knew that.
 
nakedfrog said:
It may have been the gist, but what she actually did was imply that a man who holds an anti-gay marriage view probably can't find a woman to marry him. It was kind of a petty, childish insult IMO. Not nearly as petty or childish as any of a vast number of things the current office-holder has said, of course.
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Compared to Trump's constant trash talk?. Have a cup of reality for a change.
 
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